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Besides you have better probability of getting a Item/Weapon drops on the arena.

Unless you have raw numbers to that effect, I have to disagree.

And, unsurprisingly, you'd be wrong. It has been mentioned (searching failed to locate it, but I don't care that much) that the arena clear bonus is the place with the highest chance of dropping equipment.

Unless you have raw numbers to that effect, I have to disagree.

And, unsurprisingly, you'd be wrong. It has been mentioned (searching failed to locate it, but I don't care that much) that the arena clear bonus is the place with the highest chance of dropping equipment.

I usually pick up two or three Equips in the long arenas, and then one or two in some of the shorter ones. And by short, I mean the low-level Boss arenas. I pick up one, maybe two per IW if I'm lucky.

I usually pick up two or three Equips in the long arenas, and then one or two in some of the shorter ones. And by short, I mean the low-level Boss arenas. I pick up one, maybe two per IW if I'm lucky.

Then we'll have to call this a case of "Your Mileage May Vary."

I, too, can remember that I often pick up about one to three pieces of Weapons/Armors in the longer Arenas -but today I finished one Crude Item (my super-high Parry Diamond Dagger) and just now finished a farming run in my Exquisite Prism Robe (turned difficulty down to "cake").

Just today, in the Crude IW, I won two pieces of Equipment and an Artifact, and in the Exquisite IW, I won three pieces of Equipment and another Artifact. I wonder if I would have won something in their place if it had not been for me winning those Artifacts (J/K).

Still, folks like you have the raw numbers on hand, so I'll not argue against them, but I have to repeat that things seem a little different for me.
(Maybe that's why I find it so very difficult to win Artifacts -something on the order of one or two every fortnight -while tons of people around me seem to regularly win at least one or more of them every week. Maybe I have a special "HV Karma" that gives me more the one but less of the other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) )

Perhaps I'll reset STAT a few times while fighting exclusively in various types of Rounds just to see what is what.....


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Mar 26 2010, 01:09

Unless you have raw numbers to that effect, I have to disagree.

And, unsurprisingly, you'd be wrong. It has been mentioned (searching failed to locate it, but I don't care that much) that the arena clear bonus is the place with the highest chance of dropping equipment.

I think tenb said it was between 10-50% some releases ago.

(Maybe that's why I find it so very difficult to win Artifacts -something on the order of one or two every fortnight -while tons of people around me seem to regularly win at least one or more of them every week. Maybe I have a special "HV Karma" that gives me more the one but less of the other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) )

About the artefacts, I think the drop is equal in every type of battle, just the more you do the more probably you can get it.
And another thing, I had archaeologist at 0 until 2 weeks ago, and I only gotten 1 artefact for week, but since I trained the first 10%, I get 1 every 1-2 days, and that's much more than 10%, it more like 3-4X more.

I usually pick up an Artifact a day. Two on a good day, and occasionally there are days when I just trip over them. But I play a lot of rounds, so I have a statistically better chance of getting drops. After all, HV is a numbers game, with a very rage-inducing and temperamental random number generator.

You don't need to clear your exquisite item you know?

You do if you want to level the item up.

Why do you want to level up a Prism item? Interference and Burden are (effectively) the only stats you'll increase.

Then we'll have to call this a case of "Your Mileage May Vary."

I, too, can remember that I often pick up about one to three pieces of Weapons/Armors in the longer Arenas -but today I finished one Crude Item (my super-high Parry Diamond Dagger) and just now finished a farming run in my Exquisite Prism Robe (turned difficulty down to "cake").

Just today, in the Crude IW, I won two pieces of Equipment and an Artifact, and in the Exquisite IW, I won three pieces of Equipment and another Artifact. I wonder if I would have won something in their place if it had not been for me winning those Artifacts (J/K).

Still, folks like you have the raw numbers on hand, so I'll not argue against them, but I have to repeat that things seem a little different for me.
(Maybe that's why I find it so very difficult to win Artifacts -something on the order of one or two every fortnight -while tons of people around me seem to regularly win at least one or more of them every week. Maybe I have a special "HV Karma" that gives me more the one but less of the other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) )

Perhaps I'll reset STAT a few times while fighting exclusively in various types of Rounds just to see what is what.....

Here's some numbers from STAT...

All drops from all battle types...
Equipment: 35 (2.11% of drops)

All drops from ACB...
Equipment: 51 (16.45%)

(No Arena above #14 - Meaning no Boss Trophy Automatic Equipment.)

I don't know if it makes any difference but here's my Round totals by type...

Rounds completed: 5339 (205 rounds per day)
Hourly encounters: 187 (3.5% of total; 7 rounds per day)
Arena: 1718 (32.18% of total)
Grindfest: 504 (9.44% of total; 19 rounds per day)
Item World: 2930 (54.88% of total; 113 rounds per day)

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Mar 26 2010, 08:27

How much of a profit would mastering scavenger, quatermaster, archaeologist, and luck of the draw give me? Also, which one would give me some returns the fastest?

How much of a profit would mastering scavenger, quatermaster, archaeologist, and luck of the draw give me? Also, which one would give me some returns the fastest?

Define mastering. And, if profits are your intent, you have to confine yourself to very low on those trees to ever see a return. Maybe the 10 in scavenger, 4-5 in Luck, 4 in Quartermaster, and 2 in Archaeologist. That would come out to something like 65,000 C. Even then, I have no idea how long it would take you to make 65,000 more than you would have made without it. That is probably a long term proposition.

I already have 2 archaeologist, 2 svanger, and 1 each of the other two. HV is now my only credit source, so I'm trying to figure out what training would give me the most returns. I'm set on equipment for right now, and I'm going to start selling off the excess from my stash soon.

I'd say that scavenger is your best bet. It increases the drop chance for everything, including equipment. Honestly though, spending credits on training isn't really a good investment. Because the costs go up so quickly, and each rank is worth so little benefit, you just don't get any reasonable return.

IMO, the best source of credits in H@H. Just set it up to use as much of your upload as you can afford to give up (which is usually ~90% of your maximum, unless you run a lot of torrents or something). As long as you don't have a really shitty ISP, you should have more than 25KB/s of available upload bandwidth, so you'll get at least 1 Hath per day. Since 1 Hath sells for 2200+ credits, that's a huge increase in income for someone at your level.

You'll also earn GP from H@H. If you're trying to earn credits for use in the galleries, that GP will be especially valuable, because it costs much less GP to doggy bag a gallery than it costs in converted credits.

This post has been edited by coredumperror: Mar 28 2010, 06:28

I used to run h@home.

I'd say that scavenger is your best bet. It increases the drop chance for everything, including equipment. Honestly though, spending credits on training isn't really a good investment. Because the costs go up so quickly, and each rank is worth so little benefit, you just don't get any reasonable return.

When you maximize the "Base Equipment Drop", you have less chance to get artifacts?
I think that someone already asked that, but I forgot the answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I used to run h@home.

Start running it again.

Your best gains from it are when you simply leave it on, in the background, for extended periods of time.

It's certainly how I made most of my money in HV, creating Hath and then selling them off -and this is from a guy whose MDR (a junction box for multiple Cable users in a populated area) is incredibly crowded with other Internet and Cable TV users, and is really really slow considering what I'm paying for it (supposed to be 1.5 M up/15-20 M down).

EDIT: Also, have you not considered adopting a Server?? That makes you Hath-for-Credits even faster, and they're relatively inexpensive to buy.

When you maximize the "Base Equipment Drop", you have less chance to get artifacts?
I think that someone already asked that, but I forgot the answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It was not too long ago, that I asked that question, and the consensus was that training equipment/item gains doesn't "crowd out" your chances of getting an Artifact.


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Mar 28 2010, 16:55

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This post has been edited by Thanos008: Mar 28 2010, 16:44

When you maximize the "Base Equipment Drop", you have less chance to get artifacts?
I think that someone already asked that, but I forgot the answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think that if you train the trainings like quartermaster and archaeologist, it would simply shift the drop rates. IE you'd now get less potions and scrolls, and more of the other 2 instead. Just my theory though.

Has anybody here actually employed the Katana/Wakizashi combo yet, and if so what advantages, if any, have you seen when using it??

Also......I saw that in the HV release Notes that you don't get the usual, 1.5X multiplier for Offhand, but do you at least get whatever Parry the Wakizashi comes with??

I used it some. You can't gain proficiency while using it (no matter how long it's used, you 2 handed and dual wield stay the same). At my level, an axe dagger combo is better, but scaling is a bitch.

Has anybody here actually employed the Katana/Wakizashi combo yet, and if so what advantages, if any, have you seen when using it??

Also......I saw that in the HV release Notes that you don't get the usual, 1.5X multiplier for Offhand, but do you at least get whatever Parry the Wakizashi comes with??

I use it pretty regularly. While it lacks DW's Parry bonus, its essentially 2H on steroids. With my current pair, DomStrikes and +75% damage is pretty sweet, then I also get Offhands, Accuracy, and Parry to sweeten the deal. If I could get proficiency in it, I'd use it as my general fighting style instead of switching between all three (though I'd still use my Eth-Axe combo for Legendaries and my 1HS to keep its profs capped, as well as my normal DW for when I IW my Niten pair).

Reviving a week-old topic:

If you mean bosses, then the "quality" of the the item tells you what to expect. It seems to work the same way the difficulty does. Below "average" items won't produce bosses, but "average" will and above "average" items even more so. I grind EXP in an "exquisite" item and see bosses in, maybe, 25% of my Item World runs. Maybe a little more...(This assumes that you have HV set on Normal)

I just ran into a Bunneh doing a Crude item on Heroic.