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Mar 22 2010, 01:56
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(mr daniels @ Mar 21 2010, 10:16)  i have seen this [Cheater] in front of a few user's names what does it mean? i am thinking that it means someone got caught cheating in the Hentaiverse QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 21 2010, 10:18)  They used an auto grinding script. Tenboro set a trap, that adds cheater to the front of their name every time they use it. I just saw the List (it's a short one for now, and there's at least one member whose name isn't on there who I thought was cheating for sure), and judging how often -or not -some of those people pop into the actual Forums to see their own names, I'd say that there are going to be some very surprised, red-faced people showing up in the Forums within the next few days. (I wonder if the tag, somehow, also shows up when they play HV?? And I wonder if Tenboro is going to keep those Scarlet Letters on those members permanently? Also....I wonder if the guilty Members, themselves, can see it?? I wouldn't put it past Tenboro to have a little fun by making the Tag visible to us but invisible to them?? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
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Mar 22 2010, 02:24
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Wayward_Vagabond
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If he went that far, I'd have to complement his dry sense of humor.
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Mar 22 2010, 05:46
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ChosenUno
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Is there a minimum amount of HP when calculating Domino Strike proc? Like it won't proc on a monster with 1HP. Does any1 know if that's the case or not?
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Mar 22 2010, 06:03
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 20:46)  Is there a minimum amount of HP when calculating Domino Strike proc? Like it won't proc on a monster with 1HP. Does any1 know if that's the case or not?
It has never been mentioned explicitly by Tenboro, but I cannot see why it wouldn't.
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Mar 22 2010, 06:08
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 20:46)  Is there a minimum amount of HP when calculating Domino Strike proc? Like it won't proc on a monster with 1HP. Does any1 know if that's the case or not? Believe it or not, I too have pondered this "question" for a very very long time. To this day, I have NEVER seen a Domino Strike proc when the Main Target's HP is very low (maybe 5% left, maybe even less). And as weird as your question might seem to others at first glance, I have been actively looking for it to happen, almost since Weapons and Domino Strikes were first introduced...and I've never seen it happen.
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Mar 22 2010, 15:04
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ChosenUno
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In addition to my previous question, at what accuracy should I even begin to consider estoc? I mean I'm at 79% accuracy now, and I miss like a holy freaking lot!
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Mar 22 2010, 15:20
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 22 2010, 13:04)  In addition to my previous question, at what accuracy should I even begin to consider estoc? I mean I'm at 79% accuracy now, and I miss like a holy freaking lot!
One with the same, like your longsword have. Silk or phase can also increase you acc, my current gear gives me more 17% or something, and that can help. This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 22 2010, 15:25
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Mar 22 2010, 22:39
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 22 2010, 03:46)  Is there a minimum amount of HP when calculating Domino Strike proc? Like it won't proc on a monster with 1HP. Does any1 know if that's the case or not?
I looked out for that when I did my last Item World, and about 3 rounds in my Domino Strike took out a Hamster that had only a tiny amount of health left. And I've never noticed any problems with it hitting nearly dead monsters.
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Mar 22 2010, 22:52
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Is there an hv bug? I switched my offhand dagger from a 5.29 accuracy bonus, to a 40.64 accuracy bonus, but I still miss the same amount, and my accuracy still shows up as 77%. It says the same amount with no weapons, or the dagger in my main hand.
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Mar 22 2010, 23:01
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 22 2010, 13:52)  Is there an hv bug? I switched my offhand dagger from a 5.29 accuracy bonus, to a 40.64 accuracy bonus, but I still miss the same amount, and my accuracy still shows up as 77%. It says the same amount with no weapons, or the dagger in my main hand.
The accuracy shown on the character page is your base accuracy. Accuracy bonuses granted by equipment reduce your chance of missing. So, by increasing your accuracy by 35%, you decrease your chance of missing by 35% which isn't necessarily that much/noticeable on melee (it is damned noticeable when you are hitting mobs with AoEs though). This post has been edited by Boggyb: Mar 22 2010, 23:02
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Mar 22 2010, 23:17
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Okay. I added up all my accuracy bonuses, and figured out I have about a 89.15% accuracy. That seems to agree with what I see. Dagger- 40.64, Axe- 5.69, Cap- 3.25, Pants- 3.25, Base 77%
This post has been edited by Marvin666: Mar 22 2010, 23:19
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Mar 23 2010, 02:21
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Thanos008
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Does anybody here know how a Holy spell's "Breached Defense" compares to a weapon's "Penetrated Armor?" (read: is one weaker or more powerful an effect than the other one is?)
Also, if you have a target affected by one effect, and then also put on the other effect....do their effects stack up??
(Note: considering purchasing the highest tier of "Holy" Spells; I now have a few AP to spare.)
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Mar 23 2010, 02:22
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 22 2010, 20:20)  One with the same, like your longsword have. Silk or phase can also increase you acc, my current gear gives me more 17% or something, and that can help.
Well, right now with my longsword I get 36.5% hit chance, and with the estoc I get 20%. Not that big of a difference, especially considering you're removing 36.5% and 20% of 20% miss chance. If so, how the hell do I miss so freaking much?
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Mar 23 2010, 02:25
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Mar 23 2010, 07:21)  Does anybody here know how a Holy spell's "Breached Defense" compares to a weapon's "Penetrated Armor?" (read: is one weaker or more powerful an effect than the other one is?)
Also, if you have a target affected by one effect, and then also put on the other effect....do their effects stack up??
(Note: considering purchasing the highest tier of "Holy" Spells; I now have a few AP to spare.)
If I read the wiki right, PA already strip your target of all defenses, i.e. barrier + shield rating both at 0. I'm not sure Breached defense will stack, since from the description written in the wiki it amounts to the same thing.
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Mar 23 2010, 02:36
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Mar 23 2010, 00:21)  Does anybody here know how a Holy spell's "Breached Defense" compares to a weapon's "Penetrated Armor?" (read: is one weaker or more powerful an effect than the other one is?)
Also, if you have a target affected by one effect, and then also put on the other effect....do their effects stack up??
(Note: considering purchasing the highest tier of "Holy" Spells; I now have a few AP to spare.)
No, what "Breached Defence" do is to reduce dark mitigation, in other words, after you cast a holy spell, and proc'ed this effect, the best is to use a dark spell for max damage. QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 23 2010, 00:25)  If I read the wiki right, PA already strip your target of all defenses, i.e. barrier + shield rating both at 0. I'm not sure Breached defense will stack, since from the description written in the wiki it amounts to the same thing.
Er, I'm sure wiki is wrong, what PA does is reducing the enemy END to 0, and since is the stat that contributes more for the shield and barrier ratings, so they suffer much more damage after PA. If the ratings after PA was both 0, you're could killing them in one shot and make even more damage as you level up. This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 23 2010, 02:42
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Mar 23 2010, 03:16
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Wayward_Vagabond
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What weapon class has the best bleed? I always thought it was the katana, but I can't find a katana with a better bleed than my axe (after scaling). Also, I think something weird is going on with my damage. In normal difficultly in a crude item, I take the same damage as fair cake, but seem to hit harder. Is this always true, or am I just getting lucky with my attack rolls?
This post has been edited by Marvin666: Mar 23 2010, 03:19
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Mar 23 2010, 03:34
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 22 2010, 18:16)  What weapon class has the best bleed? I always thought it was the katana, but I can't find a katana with a better bleed than my axe (after scaling). Also, I think something weird is going on with my damage. In normal difficultly in a crude item, I take the same damage as fair cake, but seem to hit harder. Is this always true, or am I just getting lucky with my attack rolls? Axes. Axes by far depending on the quality, due to not only their relatively high, base Bleed values, but also from the generous STR bonuses; from what I've seen only the Longsword comes close (as well as a few Katanas).
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Mar 23 2010, 03:36
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 22 2010, 21:16)  What weapon class has the best bleed? I always thought it was the katana, but I can't find a katana with a better bleed than my axe (after scaling). Also, I think something weird is going on with my damage. In normal difficultly in a crude item, I take the same damage as fair cake, but seem to hit harder. Is this always true, or am I just getting lucky with my attack rolls?
I think axes and longswords are about the same. Katanas are pretty good, but they're not quite as good (or maybe its just because I've got a bleedtastic longsword to compare it to). They're hella lot better than shortswords. Sword chucks are in the same area as katana, but not as good.
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Mar 23 2010, 03:41
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Wayward_Vagabond
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I'll just stick with an axe then. I'd have to find a long sword with a good bleed, and at least a 45% accuracy bonus after scaling to beat my current arrangement, and I know that's not gonna happen any time soon.
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Mar 23 2010, 03:43
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Mar 22 2010, 17:21)  Does anybody here know how a Holy spell's "Breached Defense" compares to a weapon's "Penetrated Armor?" (read: is one weaker or more powerful an effect than the other one is?)
The effect of Breached Defense is VERY minor. Sonic told me that Tenboro told him that it reduced the effected enemies Barrier/Shield ratings by a whopping 5 points. It also decreases Dark resistance, but I have no idea by how much.
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