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post Jun 11 2010, 21:24
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I had 34,3 evade, 43,4 block, 18,6 Parry and 4,32 Soul Mitigation, Soul Element rating of 8% (is this of any use?)
Did not pay much attention to his damage since Regen 2 took care of it just fine. I even forgot to recast it from time to time and in was never really dangerous (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 12 2010, 00:35
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 11 2010, 02:30) *

It doesn't matter, what matters is, very very few did it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Eh, it ceased to be an accomplishment the minute Tenboro changed the power calculations to make it infinitely easier to gain power. If you saw my log, I almost did 3 times as much damage as the MBP had health...
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post Jun 12 2010, 00:52
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jun 11 2010, 23:35) *

Eh, it ceased to be an accomplishment the minute Tenboro changed the power calculations to make it infinitely easier to gain power. If you saw my log, I almost did 3 times as much damage as the MBP had health...
I see, then Tens is still the only true legendary killer of legacy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 12 2010, 04:28
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109 14 You gain 25165 Credits!
109 13 You gain 1684.2 EXP!
109 12 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
109 11 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
109 10 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Fair Cotton Gloves of Protection]
109 9 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll]
109 8 You are Victorious!
109 7 The effect Replenishment has expired.
109 6 Regen restores you with 42 points of health.
109 5 Replenishment restores you with 13 points of magic.
109 4 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated.
109 3 Purge hits Ryouko Asakura for 1602 holy damage.
109 2 You cast Purge.
109 1 You gain 0.01 points of divine magic proficiency.

Getting the hang of this. 5 superior mana draughts used. Ended up with full hp and mp.

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post Jun 12 2010, 05:09
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jun 11 2010, 00:00) *

Seeing as I've done it, he was, at best, the third.


Ahh, I didn't see that. Still Tens defeated a Dalek well below level 100, and before HV. I suspect your high levels and SP played a key factor in it. I might be able to do it.
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post Jun 12 2010, 06:41
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FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER
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Defeated Fly-Yeeng Spuh-Getty Monsta as a Warrior (by the Nine Hells, I'm not patient enough to go 3000-5000 rounds and do it as a Mage. Not right now).

Axe in one hand.
Rapier in the offhand (in part for Spirit Attacks, in part for increasing Parry).

"Poison" cast repeatedly even though it was of little use as a Damage Weapon -I just used it to make sure that FSM stayed easy to hit.
Used 11 Mana Elixirs (had 12 of them plus 1 Final Elixir).

I went with my All-Spirit-Ward setup (over 65% Protection) instead of my "Normal Gear but 42% Evade" setup, and once I got underway I was glad that I did -I can use the High Parry Armor Set on the all the other bosses except IPU with ease -and in my opinion FSM is as far above IPU as IPU is above Real Life for various reasons. For anyone who will read this and who hasn't fought FSM yet, I strongly advise you to man up and spend money of a full set of Spirit Ward gear.

After the first few dozen attempts, I stopped using "Slow" on the monster because he only takes Bleed/Poison when he attacks. I probably could have saved myself a hundred rounds and a Mana Elixir if I'd figured that out sooner. Of course, I kept "Haste" on me.

Completed it in "only" 1400 rounds.

Seriously considering equipping double Axes next time I fight him. In a few minutes I'm going to test that theory out in Battletoads and see just how well dual, high-bleed Axes work if used together -I figure that I'll either get a Dual Bleed effect or a constant Bleed, which I think would have killed FSM even faster in the long run. I just have to figure out how to get along without any Parry to help my Evade.

EDIT:
Well, Double Bleed kinda sucks. Didn't even get the constant bleed thing I was hoping for

Guess that I'll just have to find a super-duper-duper High Bleed Axe for my main hand instead -one of those super-rare "close to 1000 Bleed Damage" Axes I used to hear about around here.


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post Jun 12 2010, 06:51
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Jun 12 2010, 00:41) *

Defeated Fly-Yeeng Spuh-Getty Monsta as a Warrior (by the Nine Hells, I'm not patient enough to go 3000-5000 rounds and do it as a Mage. Not right now).
Congratulations.

I'm quite sure I can do it as a mage in much fewer than 3000-5000 turns, like 1000. I'll see as soon as I get 2 more Tokens of Blood.
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post Jun 12 2010, 06:58
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QUOTE(EvolutionKing @ Jun 11 2010, 21:51) *
Congratulations.

I'm quite sure I can do it as a mage in much fewer than 3000-5000 turns, like 1000. I'll see as soon as I get 2 more Tokens of Blood.
Now that you mentioned it, I see where my original error was.

When I talked about 3000-5000 Rounds, I was subconsciously restating cmdct's "Kill FSM without using any Items" strategy.

My bad.

Perhaps, Tens, you could try to see how many rounds you could perform that same task in...
*sigh* It must be so hard for you to find suitable challenges for yourself anymore, up at your level.
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post Jun 12 2010, 09:56
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Killed RL again this time I used DW to find out if I can stay alive without my shield.

448 16 You gain 329 Credits!
448 15 You gain 24838.39 EXP!
448 14 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
448 13 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
448 12 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Fine Leather Helmet]
448 11 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
448 10 You are Victorious!
448 9 Regen II restores you with 184 points of health.
448 8 The effect Bleeding Wound on Real Life has expired.
448 7 Stop kicking the dead horse.
448 6 Real Life has been defeated.
448 5 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
448 4 Real Life crits you for 922 soul damage.
448 3 Real Life gains the effect Bleeding Wound.
448 2 Your offhand hits Real Life for 2 piercing damage.
448 1 You hit Real Life for 5 slashing damage.
447 3 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
447 2 Real Life misses the attack against you.
447 1 You hit Real Life for 6 slashing damage.
446 1 You hit Real Life for 6 slashing damage.
445 4 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
445 3 You evade the attack from Real Life.

Still took forever because my Axe is shit and I was not able to keep him poisoned 100% of the time. Should have used this Rapier instead of my 18% one...
Well Regen2 was able to keep up with the damage 90% of the time. I just need to find a good Bleeding weapon so I can kill him with lessers.
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post Jun 12 2010, 10:28
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Well, I stand here in awe of those defeaters of legendaries, but at least today I beat two bosses. A lvl 21 Dalek and lvl 23 Manbearpig (while I sit here on level 24), both in Item Worlds (I think Average or Fine) on Normal difficulty. I won't try to win kudos by saying how crappy my equipment, or spells, or items, or tactics, or whatever were, but do know that it can be done without even casting Weaken.
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post Jun 12 2010, 10:57
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QUOTE(oytg @ Jun 12 2010, 10:28) *

Well, I stand here in awe of those defeaters of legendaries, but at least today I beat two bosses. A lvl 21 Dalek and lvl 23 Manbearpig (while I sit here on level 24), both in Item Worlds (I think Average or Fine) on Normal difficulty. I won't try to win kudos by saying how crappy my equipment, or spells, or items, or tactics, or whatever were, but do know that it can be done without even casting Weaken.


They are much stronger in Ring of Blood. better be careful when you hit lvl 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 12 2010, 12:44
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QUOTE(EvolutionKing @ Jun 12 2010, 05:51) *

Congratulations.

I'm quite sure I can do it as a mage in much fewer than 3000-5000 turns, like 1000. I'll see as soon as I get 2 more Tokens of Blood.
You can, because of X-magic, and the fact you're more faster than I (FSM hit the cap don't get any faster as leveling up), if you can take the damage using less or even without any mitigation gear, trading for demon-fiend gear, FSM will die a lot faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Edit: Using elixirs helps to speed up too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Jun 12 2010, 13:14
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 12 2010, 00:56) *
Killed RL again this time I used DW to find out if I can stay alive without my shield.

448 16 You gain 329 Credits!
448 15 You gain 24838.39 EXP!
448 14 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
448 13 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
448 12 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Fine Leather Helmet]
448 11 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
448 10 You are Victorious!
448 9 Regen II restores you with 184 points of health.
448 8 The effect Bleeding Wound on Real Life has expired.
448 7 Stop kicking the dead horse.
448 6 Real Life has been defeated.
448 5 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
448 4 Real Life crits you for 922 soul damage.
448 3 Real Life gains the effect Bleeding Wound.
448 2 Your offhand hits Real Life for 2 piercing damage.
448 1 You hit Real Life for 5 slashing damage.
447 3 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
447 2 Real Life misses the attack against you.
447 1 You hit Real Life for 6 slashing damage.
446 1 You hit Real Life for 6 slashing damage.
445 4 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 425 damage.
445 3 You evade the attack from Real Life.

Still took forever because my Axe is shit and I was not able to keep him poisoned 100% of the time. Should have used this Rapier instead of my 18% one...
Well Regen2 was able to keep up with the damage 90% of the time. I just need to find a good Bleeding weapon so I can kill him with lessers.
I'm trying to figure out a good "companion weapon" to a Mainhand Axe that is better than a Rapier -I can probably have just easy a time fighting the guys like Real Life even without a PA-enhanced Spirit Attack or enhanced Poison. So far, no such luck.

By the way, Ichy, nice Rapier there -if I were you I'd probably never sell it (unless of course something better came along) Rapiers with both better Parry and PA chance don't usually get better than that except in rare cases.
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post Jun 12 2010, 13:48
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Yay! Konata got anal'd (:

45 10 You gain 25089 Credits!
45 9 You gain 648.21 EXP!
45 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
45 7 Arena Token Bonus! Received:[Token of Healing]
45 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:[Superior Mana Draught]
45 5 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]
45 4 You are Victorious!
45 3 Replenishment restores you with 28 points of magic.
45 2 Konata has been defeated.
45 1 You unleash Surprise Buttsecks on Konata for 52280 soul damage.
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45 1 You unleash Surprise Buttsecks on Konata for 52280 soul damage.

That's around 9 times more than my spirit attack with pa and breached defense. What items did you use?
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post Jun 12 2010, 14:28
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 12 2010, 13:22) *

That's around 9 times more than my spirit attack with pa and breached defense. What items did you use?
I already made the same question lol

Breached defense don't do anything with PA

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post Jun 12 2010, 14:34
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I already made the same question lol


lol, great minds think alike

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Breached defense don't do anything with PA


I had a feeling, since PA reduces rating a lot, defense reduces a bit, at a low level, it shouldn't have any effect. I just timed my soul attack with breached defense on.

But seriously, konata has less than 35k hp at level 75. That's a 1 hit ko. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I want to do that with yuki (as soon as more tokens show).
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post Jun 12 2010, 14:37
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PA + This + gum + vase.
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PA + This + gum + vase.


I'm pretty sure that soul attacks calculates using overcharge, pa, gum, vase, attack/magic rating, but not weapon. Someone confirm?
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 12 2010, 13:34) *

lol, great minds think alike
I had a feeling, since PA reduces rating a lot, defense reduces a bit, at a low level, it shouldn't have any effect. I just timed my soul attack with breached defense on.
PA reduces shield/barrier ratings to 0.

QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 12 2010, 13:38) *

I'm pretty sure that soul attacks calculates using overcharge, pa, gum, vase, attack/magic rating, but not weapon. Someone confirm?
You're making a lot of mistakes, no weapon don't increase the spirit attack (there's soul without being Spirit)
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Spirit damage calculated as the sum of two damage rolls, one for Attack and one for Magic, modified by Overcharge and those Hath Perks.

That said, PA reduces shield/barrier ratings to 0, buble-gum makes you crit, and flower vase increase your attack/magic rating.
An infusion can help against the monster weakness as well because increases the rating (ex wind)

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