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Jun 9 2010, 12:56
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE You should switch to something like this if you don't have one (It's not that special, so you probably can find one relatively easy) You get more ~+5% parry (with off-hand parry bonus), and lose less +4% magic damage power. That's a lot of parry. Saw one in a shop with .6 less scaled, so I'll probably buy that and hope it's better than my current rapier. QUOTE Or if you lucky get this one I saw one with 9 parry and 3% magic damage in the bazaar. Can't believe I didn't get it.
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Jun 9 2010, 14:51
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buktore
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I tried RL today... well, I died (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) here's the final result. (IMG:[ i184.photobucket.com] http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/buktore/Real-life1.png) Darn it! same LV as me.. that was such a bad luck! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Item used : 6 mana elixir, 2 last elixir I died because of the lack of experience fighting the gods. Having spark seem to significantly change how you fight in ROB. Long story short : I waste far too much mana casting spells I don't really needed (this is exactly like when I fought the bosses in the past). I learn about this after about 300-400 turns which is too late, but I keep on going since I starting to get the hang of it and I did saw some hope. Though I died, I think I did very well judging from how much mana I have wasted before. Tomorrow you're dead, RL! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Jun 9 2010, 15:41
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 13:51)  I tried RL today... well, I died (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) here's the final result. (IMG:[ i184.photobucket.com] http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/buktore/Real-life1.png) Darn it! same LV as me.. that was such a bad luck! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Item used : 6 mana elixir, 2 last elixir I died because of the lack of experience fighting the gods. Having spark seem to significantly change how you fight in ROB. Long story short : I waste far too much mana casting spells I don't really needed (this is exactly like when I fought the bosses in the past). I learn about this after about 300-400 turns which is too late, but I keep on going since I starting to get the hang of it and I did saw some hope. Though I died, I think I did very well judging from how much mana I have wasted before. Tomorrow you're dead, RL! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I'm curious, what spells you didn't need? 1 last elixir is enough for you, plus if you can get a 3rd spark of life (17AP in SP tanks), use a spirit elixir instead.
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Jun 9 2010, 17:23
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buktore
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@ cmdct - First thing is bewilder, since it seem that I'm pretty much dead anyway if I get hit by spirit attack even with it. Spark do the same job better. - I also casting poison with the intention of cutting RL MP/SP regen rate... + for the poison damage. that's mean I cast poison even though that there's no PA.. and cast it again when the PA proc at the next turn. This might sound like a stupid idea, but I was hoping that it will save more mana casting spark. This isn't turn out as I thought, the gods seem to have different behavior than other bosses. RL mana didn't seem to reduce below 90% at any time, and RL spirit point regen very fast even with the poison on (that's what I feel at least). In the end, how much you get hit by SP attack seem to be largely on luck (or you could say, the gods mood..) - Absorb.. I cast it a few times to see how it works, turn out to be other redundant for spark... - Spark itself.. I don't actually need it all the time. This is so obvious.. but reading people saying "Spark on all the time" ... who am I to break the tradition? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) - Other Supportive spells.. I casting it far too much early on, I didn't know what awaits me.. so yeah.. - Wasting some mana regen tick from elixir, I was careless. Yeah, I think that I don't really need 2 Last elixir now that I know what's inside, spirit should be good enough.
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Jun 9 2010, 17:55
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 16:23)  - First thing is bewilder, since it seem that I'm pretty much dead anyway if I get hit by spirit attack even with it. Spark do the same job better. bewilder is to assure absorb triggers 75% of time. QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 16:23)  - I also casting poison with the intention of cutting RL MP/SP regen rate... + for the poison damage. that's mean I cast poison even though that there's no PA.. and cast it again when the PA proc at the next turn. This might sound like a stupid idea, but I was hoping that it will save more mana casting spark. This isn't turn out as I thought, the gods seem to have different behavior than other bosses. RL mana didn't seem to reduce below 90% at any time, and RL spirit point regen very fast even with the poison on (that's what I feel at least). In the end, how much you get hit by SP attack seem to be largely on luck (or you could say, the gods mood..) Yep, Gods mood, try FSM is the funniest God (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 16:23)  - Absorb.. I cast it a few times to see how it works, turn out to be other redundant for spark... This isn't true with the other gods... +HP and +speed = + spark trigger = + SP needed. QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 16:23)  - Spark itself.. I don't actually need it all the time. This is so obvious.. but reading people saying "Spark on all the time" ... who am I to break the tradition? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) No, you read wrong, it's Silence all the time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Kidding, it isn't all time, only just before SP full, but sometimes it's needed all the time when they decide not to use the spirit attack for a very long time, even sometimes they died without using it once, now in this circumstances if you decided to leave spark expires.... you get the idea. Of course this is the worse thing that can happen, since they don't cast the spirit attack, more MP you have to waste. (Not only because spark isn't needed, but also absorb don't trigger) QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 9 2010, 16:23)  Yeah, I think that I don't really need 2 Last elixir now that I know what's inside, spirit should be good enough. Good luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 9 2010, 17:56
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Jun 10 2010, 17:25
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Alpha 7
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Yuki Cleared ・ Niten Ichiryu (IMG:[ i45.tinypic.com] http://i45.tinypic.com/2m6tzd1.png) 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=23 (Yuki Nagato) LV=143 HP=120615 MP=48 SP=97 NA=50 Type=hostile 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #108 (Round 1 / 1) ... 0 0 Battle Start! First, sign me up for a Lifetime Membership for the High Mit Ring of Blood Club. Second, next time, I'll leave the Wakizashi out, and just do 2-Handed Katana. High Dark Mit allowed me to survive 3 of 4 Date Rewrites, and the "killing" one was only 80% HP damage. I resisted another DR. The problem with the Wakizashi is that its puny 85 HP Bleeding Wound canceled out my Katana's 7 turns of 472 HP Bleeding Wound. Whatever the Wak brings to the battle and defense is more than canceled out by its BW-nerfing. Straightforward melee. Just stay alive long enough to Bleed them to death. Shield+Shadow Veil+Regen+Spark and Bewilder+Weaken+Poison+Slow+Bleed. I am buying Scavenger 15/50 with the Clear Bonus. Now for the boring stuff, gear, items, stats, and battle log highlights... Godly Mana Draught x6 Godly Mana Potion x4 (1 not used. Last one used for one more cast of Spark.) Godly Spirit Potion Soul Stone (Worthless) S1 Scroll of the Avatar N1 Infusion of Divinity Main Hand Fine Diamond Katana of the OxOff Hand Fine Titanium Wakizashi of the CheetahHelmet Fair Leather Helmet of the Spirit-wardBody Average Cotton Robe of the Spirit-wardHands Average Cotton Gloves of the Spirit-wardLegs Fine Phase Pants of the PriestessFeet Average Cotton Shoes of the Spirit-wardFighting Style Niten Ichiryu Physical Attack +52.8 % damage +57.9 % hit chance Avoidance +23.2 % evade +0 % block +14.8 % parry +8.6 % resist Compromise 20.4 interference 51.5 burden Damage Mitigations Soul Damage 7 % mitigation Dark Damage 56.6 % mitigation Primary Attributes +6.7 Strength +5.1 Dexterity +15.5 Agility +0 Endurance +1.1 Intelligence +4.7 Wisdom Spell Proficiency +14.85 Curative (+12 HP Regen) 294 4 You evade the attack from Yuki Nagato. 294 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 265 4 Data Rewrite hits you for 1427 dark damage. 265 3 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite 248 4 Stoic Staredown hits you for 620 soul damage. 248 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 223 4 Stoic Staredown hits you for 698 soul damage. 223 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 190 2 You are healed for 1715 Health Points. 190 1 You cast Cure II. 189 5 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat. 189 4 Data Rewrite hits you for 1997 dark damage. (My bad, it's only 80% damage.) 189 3 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite 187 3 You resist the attack from Yuki Nagato. 187 2 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 160 3 Stoic Staredown hits you for 788 soul damage. 160 2 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 136 4 You evade the attack from Yuki Nagato. 136 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 136 2 You are healed for 1375 Health Points. 136 1 You cast Cure. 135 3 Data Rewrite hits you for 1435 dark damage. 135 2 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite 85 4 Stoic Staredown hits you for 523 soul damage. 85 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 80 2 You are healed for 1467 Health Points. 80 1 You cast Cure II. 78 4 Data Rewrite hits you for 1346 dark damage. 78 3 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite 63 7 You evade the attack from Yuki Nagato. 63 6 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 37 4 You resist the attack from Yuki Nagato. 37 3 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite 23 4 Stoic Staredown hits you for 526 soul damage. 23 3 Yuki Nagato casts Stoic Staredown 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=23 (Yuki Nagato) LV=143 HP=120615 MP=48 SP=97 NA=50 Type=hostile 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #108 (Round 1 / 1) ... 0 0 Battle Start! 13 6 Bleeding Wound hits Yuki Nagato for 472 damage. 301 2 Your offhand hits Yuki Nagato for 23 slashing damage. 301 1 You hit Yuki Nagato for 48 slashing damage. If image goes away, final turn data is here.
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Jun 11 2010, 02:28
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE Congrats, holy helped didn't it? Yep. As soon as I saw that yuki was taking 1.3k damage from purge, while only having 35k hp, I knew it was over. QUOTE Yay, I killed a boss in legacy battles, despite only had 1/2 spirit bar happy.gif Lol. No trophy/item drop/only 1 credit. I gain about that much in 1 normal iw grind so I doubt that's significant xp at your level. Edit: Yuki crits you for 544 damage.... Yeow. Just noticed that in my screenshot. Thought I got hit by a spirit. I let weaken drop for 1 turn b/c Yuki's health bar was non-existent (34-64 hp left). I should be more careful next time. So... question. When should I recast weaken/bewilder? Does it run out at 0 turns or 1 turn? This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 11 2010, 02:33
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Jun 11 2010, 02:38
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 11 2010, 01:28)  Lol. No trophy/item drop/only 1 credit. I gain about that much in 1 normal iw grind so I doubt that's significant xp at your level.
It was just for fun. QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 11 2010, 01:28)  So... question. When should I recast weaken/bewilder? Does it run out at 0 turns or 1 turn?
1 turn, firstly because eventual resist, and secondly because eventual double turns (it's more with Gods than Legendaries) This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 11 2010, 02:38
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Jun 11 2010, 03:44
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Alpha 7
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 10 2010, 20:24)  Now just a curiosity: (IMG:[ i50.tinypic.com] http://i50.tinypic.com/ad1sn.jpg) Yay, I killed a boss in legacy battles, despite only had 1/2 spirit bar (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Do you realize that you are only the second person to ever defeat a Boss in a Legacy Encounter? Tens was the only one to ever do it before you. Normally, Legacy Boss = DEATH. This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Jun 11 2010, 03:44
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Jun 11 2010, 04:06
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Jun 11 2010, 02:44)  Do you realize that you are only the second person to ever defeat a Boss in a Legacy Encounter? Tens was the only one to ever do it before you.
Normally, Legacy Boss = DEATH.
Heh? I didn't know that, I mean I know Tens was essentially the only Legendary Slayer in legacy, but I didn't thought no one else didn't do it. After all there's some catgirls around here for some time, and they also have karma level. So I just had a lucky high roll damage hit, now I'm really happy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 11 2010, 04:13
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Thanos008
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I have finally developed my character to such an extent that he has equally proficiency as a Mage (Spell Proficiencies are around Level 130) and as a Warrior (DW, Cloth Armor, and 2h Proficiencies are also somewhere around the 130 Level mark).
I've never done any of the Legendaries with Magic before. I also find Real Life 'easy' to kill as a Warrior, and I'm confident that I can kill IPU with relative impunity (again as a Warrior) even though I find it to be 'expensive' in terms of Mana Potions/Elixirs, Scrolls, and Infusions.
To those of you who might have walked this path as both Warrior and Mage: Should I try to take on Flying Spaghetti Monster as a Warrior, or as a Mage??
(P.S. I have "Banish" at my disposal, but my Divine is "only" at 100. It's hard for me to imagine that I'll be able to hurt FSM much with it, anyway.)
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Jun 11 2010, 04:47
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Jun 11 2010, 03:13)  I have finally developed my character to such an extent that he has equally proficiency as a Mage (Spell Proficiencies are around Level 130) and as a Warrior (DW, Cloth Armor, and 2h Proficiencies are also somewhere around the 130 Level mark).
I've never done any of the Legendaries with Magic before. I also find Real Life 'easy' to kill as a Warrior, and I'm confident that I can kill IPU with relative impunity (again as a Warrior) even though I find it to be 'expensive' in terms of Mana Potions/Elixirs, Scrolls, and Infusions. To those of you who might have walked this path as both Warrior and Mage: Should I try to take on Flying Spaghetti Monster as a Warrior, or as a Mage??
(P.S. I have "Banish" at my disposal, but my Divine is "only" at 100. It's hard for me to imagine that I'll be able to hurt FSM much with it, anyway.)
If items aren't a problem, use the warrior path, if the time isn't a problem use the mage path like I did here based on mkonji's tactic but refined. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 11 2010, 04:55
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Jun 11 2010, 06:00
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20200
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ Jun 10 2010, 18:44)  Do you realize that you are only the second person to ever defeat a Boss in a Legacy Encounter? Tens was the only one to ever do it before you.
Normally, Legacy Boss = DEATH.
Seeing as I've done it, he was, at best, the third.
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Jun 11 2010, 06:49
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buktore
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Finally... Real Life: LV=95 HP=168670 MP=6 SP=110 NA=62 Fighting style: DW with this axe as main hand and this rapier as off hand. Physical Attack: 39.6 % damage, 59.6 % hit chance, 8.9 % crit chance Avoidance: 32% evade, 20.1% parry, 14.5% resist Items: 6 mana elixir, 1 last elixir (could be replace with mana elixir instead) and 1 last elixir unused. My buff: Regen+Shield almost alway on, Shadow vail - Haste from time to time, Spark when needed, Absorb once (because I don't have anything else to cast when my elixir would overflow.. and it actually works!) RL de-buff: Weaken always, Poison when PA proc, Slow when I have low HP Strategy: Nothing really, just keep doing the above buff+de-buff and keep whacking. 5 Internet Shutdown: 3 evaded, 1 absorbed, 1 hit After 2 failed attempts (RL = LV100, LV99) this time I got a bit lucky with LV 95 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm not sure how much easier it become compared to my previous attempts though, since I changed a few equipment each fight. It seem that my decision about changing my off hand rapier from this and this to the one I used as mentioned above was a good choice, the extra crit seem to increase the bleed proc chance considerably. I also seem to have somewhat more PA proc chance as well. I'm also find Shield to be very useful here... I'm a bit surprise at first cause I don't use it when fighting the Legendary. Thinking about it now and it make sense, since I need to bleed it to dead, I didn't go for Haste+Slow route like I did with Legendary, this mean I'm getting hit much more often, RL also seem to be very fast even with X-Attack and also pretty accurate too, Shield really do it's job well here. This post has been edited by buktore: Jun 11 2010, 07:33
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Jun 11 2010, 11:30
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jun 11 2010, 05:00)  Seeing as I've done it, he was, at best, the third. It doesn't matter, what matters is, very very few did it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 11 2010, 11:39
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Jun 11 2010, 21:08
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Ichy
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Real Life down! in the boring way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) 557 10 You gain 50824 Credits! 557 9 You gain 24725.76 EXP! 557 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 557 7 Arena Token Bonus! Received: [Token of Healing] 557 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Scroll of the Gods] 557 5 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt] 557 4 You are Victorious! 557 3 Real Life drops a Soul Gem powerup! 557 2 Real Life has been defeated. 557 1 You unleash Giga Drill Breaker! on Real Life for 2123 soul damage. I originally planned to fight him when I have a nice Bleeding weapon but I was in need of credits now. So I just pa/poison/mini spirited him to death.It took FOREVER but was pretty much failsave. He can`t do much against Silence/Nerv/high evade/Block/Shadow Veil.
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Jun 11 2010, 21:14
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 11 2010, 20:08)  Real Life down! in the boring way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Congrats Ichy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) May I ask what stats you had? (evade/block) And how much damage RL was doing (hits/crits) Regen or Regen II? This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 11 2010, 21:16
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