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That's explained it, you play mostly on Item world + Easy. I get it now.

What about Normal Griendfest? you should do this from time to time IMO, at least do Item world on Normal, or else you might start having a bad habit of thinking that the game is easier than it actually is.

This might sound like a weird question, do you play arena on regular basis?

Without items I can only take 30-40 rounds of normal grindfest. This I only do when I have some Tokens of healing left. And I actually have the time to pay attention to the screen.

My daily arenas are everything up to Fresh Meat.
In higher arenas I have to use items but they are still not that hard.
Shit hits the fan from Endgame+ mainly thanks to the boss at the end (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I'm not saying Heavy is useless, I mean, I use 1 or 2 on regular basis right now, but going FULL heavy all the time is worth it only for low level players.

cmal was full heavy until level 150 I think, but once he mixed... well it become better.
You see the heavy was heavy nerfed, in the first times once the gear was available, heavy was the ruler.

Then again, I now have X-Attack, I might go full heavy to arena and see how it's goes... lets hope I won't lose 1000c (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I once tried with 80 burden, and I didn't got any double tick.

Other thing, I have ponder about it a bit, let's say.. if wearing Heavy gears doesn't affect non-damage spell proficiency, would it worth it to go full heavy? even with this and judging from Heavy gears that appears in bazaar, I find that answering this might not as easy as it would seem.

It would be too overpowered, and that's also the reason Tenb give up on creating the special type of heavy (an equivalent to kevlar/phase)
Just a side note, but I think Hito have 1 setup with full heavy gear.

Oh God...
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This was so close.
No more Mana left.
No more bewilder/weaken active so her Pentanko Slash would have killed me since I only had 2K HP left (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

My daily arenas are everything up to Fresh Meat.
In higher arenas I have to use items but they are still not that hard.
Shit hits the fan from Endgame+ mainly thanks to the boss at the end (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

What's wrong about using items? it's meant to be use ya know..

I don't know since I'm not LV 100 yet but I heard that most people find Endgame to be quite easy and I believe it will be easy for me as well judging from my performances in Killzone and my encounter with the boss in normalfest.

What I'm trying to say here is that.. You should try experiment with your equipments, that is... If you want to be better (or worse)

Go Normalfest with full Cloth, Light, Heavy, see how it goes and try mix it up, ETC. I have to seriously did this once at around LV 40~50 cause suddenly arena became a big problem. After that and a few more tweak, I have no problem ever since.

Oh, Congrats on beating Konata (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@ cmdct

The Heavy gears that cmal (and thanos, maybe more) have are so damn nice. if I have such thing I would use it as well, but those are old items that I believed will never drop again these days.

I never seen Hito Heavy gears so I don't know.

I was talking about the thing that peoples could actually get right now. Current Heavy gears that I have seen so far, even the very good one are pale in comparison to those plate. I wish someone could prove me wrong.. but I think this will never happen.

Oh well, I should stop talking about it until I try it out for myself.. I don't really have high hopes for it though.

This post has been edited by buktore: May 13 2010, 13:33

The Heavy gears that cmal (and thanos, maybe more) have are so damn nice. if I have such thing I would use it as well, but those are old items that I believed will never drop again these days.

I was talking about the thing that peoples could actually get right now. Current Heavy gears that I have seen so far, even the very good one are pale in comparison to those plate. I wish someone could prove me wrong.. but I think this will never happen.

Oh but they still drop and it's very simple to have one:
-First you have to get an exquisite drop. (kind of rare)
-Second it have to be heavy. (1/7 of possibilities)
-Third it have to be a good one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I never seen Hito Heavy gears so I don't know.

Neither I had, but I believe him.

Hmmm... What is your action speed? If it is less than 180 (the exact number varies depending on proficiency and evasion stats), then using haste is still more advantageous than shadow veil.

Action Speed 153. Shadow Veil is 13.9. My stated Evade is 27.3% with my Staff.

Action Speed 153. Shadow Veil is 13.9. My stated Evade is 27.3% with my Staff.

Assuming you get 47 action speed from haste, that would allow you to attack 30% faster. That doesn't directly come out to 30% less damage, but it is still probably better than the effect 10.1% evasion that Shadow Veil gives you. (It is actually probably a little bit less when you add parry.)

I think I'm going to try a boss today... and I have a few questions.
What boss should I try first?
I am a mage. How should I battle? Weaken? No bewilder yet. What items should I bring? Should I try to proc ether theft then channeling? I have a pretty good rapier and shield. Should I use the penetrated armor and poison technique instead of maging?

I think I'm going to try a boss today... and I have a few questions.
What boss should I try first?
I am a mage. How should I battle? Weaken? No bewilder yet. What items should I bring? Should I try to proc ether theft then channeling? I have a pretty good rapier and shield. Should I use the penetrated armor and poison technique instead of maging?

Leave MPB for last, if you really a mage you should have the magical proficiencies high enough, so use the rapier with a dagger, and cast the spell of their weakness with PA proc'ed, they die fast, and use PA+spirit attack as well, for MPB you can use a scroll of avatar to avoid being dead by Global Warning.

This post has been edited by cmdct: May 14 2010, 23:38

use the rapier with a dagger,

What stats should I look for in a dagger for legendary fights?

What stats should I look for in a dagger for legendary fights?

High parry, low interference, but if you have a kite shield with high block, low interference that work as well

I think I'm going to try a boss today... and I have a few questions.
What boss should I try first?
I am a mage. How should I battle? Weaken? No bewilder yet. What items should I bring? Should I try to proc ether theft then channeling? I have a pretty good rapier and shield. Should I use the penetrated armor and poison technique instead of maging?

I know cmdct has already given you some advice, but here is my take, having beaten them all recently in a level not that much higher than yours:

I am a mage like you but I actually beat the bunneh, dalek and mithra in my heavy armor set up with a nice bleed. On MBP, on the other hand, I failed like some 4 times, some in heavy armor, in which case I could not do anything against global warming (wasn't really aware of the scrolls back then), and some as a mage with staff, in which case I could not do enough damage at all. I finally ended up beating MBP and the legendaries that followed with a rapier's PA + Poison (for the higher legendaries a bit more should be said) in mage setup. My experience beating MBP like this is that I hardly believed how fast it fell. Poison + PA really is absurd, because what happens is that your Poison makes more damage throughout its entire duration as long as it was cast during PA (and not only during the PA, which would seem to me less overpowered)

I therefore strongly advise this one. With bosses you won't even need to do anything else.

More specifically,
start by weakening and shielding,
hit it with the rapier till you get PA
poison
watch it die

P.S.: I used shield with my rapier for the higher legendaries, but for bosses that should be superfluous.

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 15 2010, 01:51

More specifically,
start by weakening and shielding,
hit it with the rapier till you get PA
poison
watch it die

Or hit with PA+spirit attack, 1/2 HP disappears, spend a great spirit draught hit with PA+spirit attack again, and meanwhile KO boss.
Sure they can be killed by poison alone, but if he can also hit and cast they die a lot faster.

Or hit with PA+spirit attack, 1/2 HP disappears, spend a great spirit draught hit with PA+spirit attack again, and meanwhile KO boss.
Sure they can be killed by poison alone, but if he can also hit and cast they die a lot faster.

I was mainly pointing out how fast they die with Poison + PA (I think something massive like 400/tick); to the extent that you probably don't even need to attack. I wasn't saying he shouldn't attack, just that the moment Poison+PA is in the fight is pretty much over (as long as you don't let your HP drop enough for the spirit attack to kill you).


P.S.: And furthermore, my phrasing was supposed to be humorous. "Keep attacking and watch them die" is a much poorer punchline than just "Watch them die".

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 15 2010, 03:14

I bleed all 4 bosses to dead at LV 50.

God.. that was a stupid idea.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: May 15 2010, 04:18

I bleed all 4 bosses to dead at LV 50.

God.. that was a stupid idea.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Wait... Why was it a bad idea? Didn't it work?

I bleed all 4 bosses to dead at LV 50.

God.. that was a stupid idea.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Wait... Why was it a bad idea? Didn't it work?

not really wrong, according from this. if your axe do more damage than PA attack(not PA + Spirit attack), do that. if not, PA + spirit attack.

This post has been edited by yuripe: May 15 2010, 07:50

not really wrong, according from this. if your axe do more damage than PA attack(not PA + Spirit attack), do that. if not, PA + spirit attack.

Then there is my way: DW or 1HS with Rapier - PA + Tier II AOE Magic against their weakness. I can kill them in less then 20 turns in the final round of Endgame. (That includes 2-4 turns killing the mid-bosses and regular mobs.)

Basically, we are all saying "Fight as a mage using a Rapier instead of a Staff". This is why we advise new mages to get a Rapier and grind out DW training along with their magic training. Being able to effectively use a Rapier is important to a mage.

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: May 15 2010, 17:21

Then there is my way: DW or 1HS with Rapier - PA + Tier II AOE Magic against their weakness. I can kill them in less then 20 turns in the final round of Endgame. (That includes 2-4 turns killing the mid-bosses and regular mobs.)

Basically, we are all saying "Fight as a mage using a Rapier instead of a Staff". This is why we advise new mages to get a Rapier and grind out DW training along with their magic training. Being able to effectively use a Rapier is important to a mage.

Yeah, mage with rapier is basically the recipe. Although I would say Poison has the advantage of being an "one size fits all" method. I, for one, do not currently have spells to cover all the weaknesses of the bosses (although I won't be able to put that off much longer)

Wait... Why was it a bad idea? Didn't it work?

Because I later discovered that using rapier kill them 2-3 time faster than the axe... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Also, I fought the bosses with Weaken and Poison at LV 1 ... Yeah... that's why I find Konata easier than the bosses.