[X] My Assistant

Yuki down

Items used: 4 Godly Mana Draughts, 3 Mana Elixirs (unused, 1 Mana Elixir)

Used exactly the same setup as against Mikuru. The only difference is that I seemed to fail the purge a bit more, which forced me to use one more Mana Elixir (although that one was kind of wasted, a low draught/potion would have sufficed). Her spirit attack was taking me (in the once or twice it hit) some 1100 damage, which while not lethal is enough to keep you on your toes when you have 1590HP.


Two questions:
- For Ryouko is the spirit attack scary enough that I should definitely go for FrostBorn items?
- Do the legendary trophies give good items, or should I just try to trade for a staff that has better selling value?


EDIT:
I'm not sure how much of a role they actually played, but here are my proficiencies should anyone try to emulate me:

Weapon proficiency
One-handed 52.44

Armor proficiency
Shield 64.11
Cloth armor 85.05
Light armor 74.22

Magic proficiency
Elemental 84.72
Divine 72.68
Deprecating 79.45
Supportive 73.20
Curative 72.63

I'm not an expert, but I think these are high for level 86 (one-handed and shield not so much, but outside of Ring of Blood I use staff...)

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 1 2010, 19:53

Yuki down

Items used: 4 Godly Mana Draughts, 3 Mana Elixirs (unused, 1 Mana Elixir)

Used exactly the same setup as against Mikuru. The only difference is that I seemed to fail the purge a bit more, which forced me to use one more Mana Elixir (although that one was kind of wasted, a low draught/potion would have sufficed). Her spirit attack was taking me (in the once or twice it hit) some 1100 damage, which while not lethal is enough to keep you on your toes when you have 1590HP.
Two questions:
- For Ryouko is the spirit attack scary enough that I should definitely go for FrostBorn items?
- Do the legendary trophies give good items, or should I just try to trade for a staff that has better selling value?

Congrats for beating her (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

-Yes
-I think selling to bazzar gives better profit, but I don't remember the selling price of those. You can try to trade like the bosses ones, but usually is junk. Even so, sometimes something good appears, so it's your call.

Yuki down

Items used: 4 Godly Mana Draughts, 3 Mana Elixirs (unused, 1 Mana Elixir)

Used exactly the same setup as against Mikuru. The only difference is that I seemed to fail the purge a bit more, which forced me to use one more Mana Elixir (although that one was kind of wasted, a low draught/potion would have sufficed). Her spirit attack was taking me (in the once or twice it hit) some 1100 damage, which while not lethal is enough to keep you on your toes when you have 1590HP.
Two questions:
- For Ryouko is the spirit attack scary enough that I should definitely go for FrostBorn items?
- Do the legendary trophies give good items, or should I just try to trade for a staff that has better selling value?

congrats for beat Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I'll leave her for the last cuz I love Yuki Nagato (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) .

1. indeed. find the better for beat her.
2. dunno, I still keep them on my bucket (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

- Do the legendary trophies give good items, or should I just try to trade for a staff that has better selling value?

You should keep all the trophy and offer to the Shrine. It's more profitable.
Bazzar pay 200c each boss trophy, but when offering, the chance to get an equip value more than 200c is pretty high.
And congrats on beating Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Jonavrek: May 1 2010, 21:16

You should keep all the trophy and offer to the Shrine. It's more profitable.
Bazzar pay 200c each boss trophy, but when offering, the chance to get an equip value more than 200c is pretty high.
And congrats on beating Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think my question was not very clear. I was talking specifically about the the legendary trophies (Konata, Mikuru, Ryouko & Yuki), which are rarer, since these bosses don't appear anywhere else.

I know that boss trophies usually yield crap, and that to maximize the selling point of said crap it is good to choose your drop to be a staff.
I basically wanted to know if the (I assume) improved quality that legendary trophies have justifies choosing your drop to be something you actually want.

I think my question was not very clear. I was talking specifically about the the legendary trophies (Konata, Mikuru, Ryouko & Yuki), which are rarer, since these bosses don't appear anywhere else.

I know that boss trophies usually yield crap, and that to maximize the selling point of said crap it is good to choose your drop to be a staff.
I basically wanted to know if the (I assume) improved quality that legendary trophies have justifies choosing your drop to be something you actually want.

2010-05-01 05:30 -4000 Purchased 2 "Lock of Blue Hair"
2010-05-01 05:29 -2500 Purchased 1 "Bunny-Girl Costume"

So, Lock is worth 400, Bunny is worth 500.

Consider trading for Heavy Armor. Recent Bazaar sells...

Staff... 1/3 chance for 600+ Credits

+467 Sold "Average Redwood Staff of Focus"
+447 Sold "Fair Redwood Staff of the Owl"
+834 Sold "Fine Willow Staff of the Owl"
+562 Sold "Average Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver"
+700 Sold "Average Oak Staff of the Owl"
+539 Sold "Average Willow Staff of the Fox"

Heavy Armor ... 1/3 chance for 600+ Credits

+313 Sold "Fair Emerald Plate Gauntlets"
+287 Sold "Crude Emerald Chainmail Chausses of Warding"
+1066 Sold "Fine Emerald Plate Cuirass of the Fire-eater"
+352 Sold "Crude Emerald Chainmail Boots of Protection"
+599 Sold "Average Emerald Plate Gauntlets of Deflection"
+489 Sold "Fair Emerald Chainmail Coif of the Stone-skinned"
+645 Sold "Average Emerald Chainmail Hauberk of Dampening"
+350 Sold "Crude Emerald Chainmail Mitons of Warding"
+406 Sold "Average Emerald Chainmail Chausses"
+415 Sold "Average Emerald Plate Helmet"
+458 Sold "Fair Emerald Chainmail Hauberk of Dampening"
+1027 Sold "Fine Emerald Chainmail Boots of the Fire-eater"
+607 Sold "Average Emerald Plate Cuirass of Warding"
+635 Sold "Average Emerald Chainmail Coif of Deflection"
+327 Sold "Crude Emerald Plate Greaves of Warding"
+367 Sold "Crude Emerald Plate Greaves of the Thrice-blessed"
+504 Sold "Average Emerald Chainmail Mitons of the Frost-born"
+815 Sold "Fine Emerald Chainmail Mitons of Protection"

And Ryouko down too (no more legendaries for me...)

Items used: 4 Godly Mana Draughts, 2 Mana Elixirs (unused: 2 Mana Elixirs, and again the last mana elixir I used might as well have been something else)

My stats: (level 86)
+20.9 % evade
+32.4 % block
+7.3 % parry
21.4 interference
38.6 burden
43.3 % cold mitigation (yeah, overkill, but I only needed two frost-born pieces for it, so... I don't think I was hit by a single Impaler, though...)

As for the strategy, the exact same I used with Mikuru and Yuki:
weaken + bewilder always on, haste+shield most of the time, regen once in a while (using more might not be bad idea), PA + purge & PA + poison.



Also, thanks for the statistics, Alpha7. I do however think I'll keep choosing staffs when what I want is cash, though, since I'm a mage, so it's more likely that I'll find something that works for me that way.
Also somewhat relevant is that due to our difference in levels I should probably not expect to receive as much credits from my equips as you... but thanks anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 2 2010, 04:13

Congrats on beating Ryouko, uvauva2 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


About the trophy, I don't know.. I play this game for my own enjoyment, and it's more enjoyable to offer it to the shrine for something I use most (Cloth, 1H) and hope for something really good instead of going for the safe route for credits like staff even though I'm piss poor and my overall LV in training are still relatively low.

But that's just me.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: May 2 2010, 06:57

Mikuru Asahina * Niten Ichiryu-Style

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=21 (Mikuru Asahina) LV=130 HP=109905 MP=41 SP=33 NA=52 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #106 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

I did it! Just barely. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) My Niten+Silence plan had one little flaw. I don't have Silence. I ditched it in the last Re-set because I took too much damage without Weaken. Plan B time: Bleed+Bewilder+Weaken+Slow and Shield Veil+Regen+Spark. Last turn: STAT says she has 0 HP, I was 520 HP, 3 MP, 0 SP. I could have taken one more hit from her, but a Mikuru Beam would have killed me. I used the exact same Items, except Mana Elixir replaced by Godly Mana Potion. I really suspect it would have gone much, much better, if I did have Silence as her hits were weak.

What happens when you do Niten vs. Mikuru without Silence... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

362 5 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat.
362 4 Time Quake hits you for 1806 dark damage.
362 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

358 4 You resist the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
358 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

346 6 Mikuru Beam hits you for 608 soul damage.
346 5 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

328 4 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
328 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

326 5 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
326 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

317 4 Mikuru Beam hits you for 525 soul damage.
317 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

299 3 Mikuru Beam hits you for 551 soul damage.
299 2 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

268 5 Mikuru Beam hits you for 647 soul damage.
268 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

265 5 Time Quake hits you for 1464 dark damage.
265 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

249 5 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
249 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

230 5 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.
230 4 Time Quake hits you for 1963 dark damage.

229 3 Mikuru Beam hits you for 656 soul damage.
229 2 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

202 4 Time Quake hits you for 2052 dark damage.
202 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake
* Thankfully I had used Cure the previous turn.

200 5 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
200 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

181 3 Mikuru Beam hits you for 533 soul damage.
181 2 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

175 5 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
175 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

164 5 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
164 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

154 4 The hostile spell is drained. You gain 28 Magic Points.
154 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

147 4 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
147 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

145 4 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
145 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

119 5 You resist the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
119 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

81 6 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina.
81 5 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

79 5 Mikuru Beam hits you for 493 soul damage.
79 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

50 6 Mikuru Beam hits you for 508 soul damage.
50 5 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

39 3 The hostile spell is drained. You gain 40 Magic Points.
39 2 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

Nine Time Quakes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

@ uvauva2
congrats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) . really hurry for beat them, huh ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) . your strategy is little wrong, about bewilder. Ryouko doesn't use a magical attack, just physical attack. you can see from here.

@ Alpha 7
really that ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif), 9 Time Quakes ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

@ uvauva2
congrats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) . really hurry for beat them, huh ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) . your strategy is little wrong, about bewilder. Ryouko doesn't use a magical attack, just physical attack. you can see from here.

True, I really did end up using up bewilder for nothing. I knew that the spirit attack was physical, but I kind of assumed she would have some magic anyway, like Konata did.

But basically after comfortably beating both Mikuru and Yuki with your strategy I though I would just repeat it for Ryouko. And at worst that cost me an extra mana elixir, so that's fine.


As for beating them in a hurry.... I want the credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). My next trainings are very expensive and since I am putting almost all my drops in my shop instead of selling I have a very small income at the moment.

Also, my strategy really is almost a copy of yours, so I think that if you want you can easily go and take Ryouko and Yuki down (also, if you want you can borrow my frost-born pieces (two pieces with +20))

True, I really did end up using up bewilder for nothing. I knew that the spirit attack was physical, but I kind of assumed she would have some magic anyway, like Konata did.

But basically after comfortably beating both Mikuru and Yuki with your strategy I though I would just repeat it for Ryouko. And at worst that cost me an extra mana elixir, so that's fine.
As for beating them in a hurry.... I want the credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). My next trainings are very expensive and since I am putting almost all my drops in my shop instead of selling I have a very small income at the moment.

Also, my strategy really is almost a copy of yours, so I think that if you want you can easily go and take Ryouko and Yuki down (also, if you want you can borrow my frost-born pieces (two pieces with +20))

yep, Ryouko can only use physical so bewilder is suck. I'm not really hurry for Credits cuz I want a good battle with Legendary without any hesitation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

can I see your cold-mitigation gear ? mine is :
Fine Cotton Robe of the Frost-born
Fine Cotton Pants of the Frost-born
Average Leather Leggings of the Frost-born
Average Cotton Shoes of the Frost-born

Ryouko Asakura Down !

(IMG:[i950.photobucket.com] http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad346/fujino_album/yuri/RyoukoDown.jpg)

Get Revenge from Ryouko (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) !

Item : 2 Godly mana potion, 2 Godly mana draught, 4 Mana elixir (unused : 2 Mana elixir, 1 Godly mana Draught) it's just me, or Ryouko is easier than Mikuru (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (according from the items that I used)

Strategy : weaken (always on) + shield(several times not use), PA + purge & PA + poison (not forget now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ), regen & cure sometimes.

Equipments :
Fine Titanium Rapier of Balance -> buy from my friend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Fine Mithril Kite Shield of the Barrier
Fine Silk Cap of the Cheetah
Fine Cotton Robe of the Frost-born
Average Silk Gloves of the Fleet
Fine Cotton Pants of the Frost-born
Fine Silk Shoes

Stats :
Avoidance
+22 % evade
+36.4 % block
+8.8 % parry
+7.1 % resist

Compromise
13.7 interference
46.2 burden

38.3 % Cold mitigation

Take a few Impaler = 670(the smallest)-980(crits) attack with Cold mitigation (majority evade, parry, and block). normal attack is 10-30 damage(crits), and with PA is 100-200 damage.
Now the last is Yuki Nagato. do you hear that, Yuki ? my next target is you, so just wait for me ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by yuripe: May 3 2010, 13:23

Good job yuripe!
(not that I had any doubt you would do it easily. I did it easily using your strategy, after all)

Ryouko Asakura Down !

Item : 2 Godly mana potion, 2 Godly mana draught, 4 Mana elixir (unused : 2 Mana elixir, 1 Godly mana Draught) it's just me, or Ryouko is easier than Mikuru (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (according from the items that I used)

You used Poison + PA, which makes it quicker, and you also didn't need bewilder. So it's no wonder you needed less mana, I think.
And in my experience Yuki might take a bit more than Mikuru, although they really are not too different (I think Yuki's spirit hurts a bit more, but that's it)


And you clearly didn't need my frost-born... My two are just low level fairs (20ish), but they both had a nice cold mitigation of 22+ each, and were cheap. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 4 2010, 05:11

And you clearly didn't need my frost-born... My two are just low level fairs (20ish), but they both had a nice cold mitigation of 22+ each, and were cheap. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Hey, I bought it for ~400c each from the bazaar, I would feel bad if I'm selling it to you for 2000c each, ya know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Beside, I already have something better! that's why I sold those to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though I don't think I will ever going to need it..

OP, I know...

Hey, I bought it for ~400c each from the bazaar, I would feel bad if I'm selling it to you for 2000c each, ya know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Beside, I already have something better! that's why I sold those to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though I don't think I will ever going to need it..

OP, I know...

I wouldn't have minded if you had sold them for a better profit, honestly. 2000C would have been steep, though...
But, say, 750C apiece instead of 500C I would have been fine with. Particularly considering I wanted these to "extract" 25000C from Ryouko.

This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 4 2010, 06:45

Hey, I bought it for ~400c each from the bazaar, I would feel bad if I'm selling it to you for 2000c each, ya know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Beside, I already have something better! that's why I sold those to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though I don't think I will ever going to need it..

OP, I know...

I wouldn't have minded if you had sold them for a better profit, honestly. 2000C would have been steep, though...
But, say, 750C apiece instead of 500C I would have been fine with. Particularly considering I wanted these to "extract" 25000C from Ryouko.

So you sold those by the price of 500C despite they're only cost you 400C from bazzar, I better be careful with you on possible future business (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You used Poison + PA, which makes it quicker, and you also didn't need bewilder. So it's no wonder you needed less mana, I think.
And in my experience Yuki might take a bit more than Mikuru, although they really are not too different (I think Yuki's spirit hurts a bit more, but that's it)
And you clearly didn't need my frost-born... My two are just low level fairs (20ish), but they both had a nice cold mitigation of 22+ each, and were cheap. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

yep, but sometimes I forget use poison if so serious with battle. I beat Ryouko with little gamble on the last when my MP 10, and for cast purge isn't enough, so I cast condemn. the condemn did well, and poison work well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) . now for Yuki Nagato, I already has a great gear with high dark mitigation(just wait until I beat them with Haruhi's power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

now I mustn't use your cold-mitigation equipments again. btw, thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hey, I bought it for ~400c each from the bazaar, I would feel bad if I'm selling it to you for 2000c each, ya know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Beside, I already have something better! that's why I sold those to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though I don't think I will ever going to need it..

OP, I know...

too late (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yuki * Niten Ichiryu + Silence.

Failed. I was taking too much damage without Weaken and had to switch to Bewilder+Weaken. I did get her down to 10K HP from 112K but, I ran out of mana pots, because my Item set-up was geared to just casting Silence (22 MP) and not B&W (14 x 2).

Tomorrow I try her the regular way: PA+Poison+Arcane Focus+Infusion+Banish with Bewilder+Weaken.

:/

Used weaken+bewilder+PA+poison on all of them. Didn't have the holy spells so I just grinded it out. Ended up using a few Mana elixirs and 2 scrolls of the Gods on each (a think spark only proc'ed once). The first two were defeated at lvl75 and the last two at lvl80.

Avoidance
+27.7 % evade
+33.6 % block
+6.9 % parry
+18.5 % resist