[X] My Assistant

Congrats for beat IPU, cmdct (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Konata Down !

(IMG:[i950.photobucket.com] http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad346/fujino_album/yuri/Konatadown.jpg)

this my 2nd try (beat konata). now my revenge is complete (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Me : Lv 81, HP 1545
Konata : Lv 79, HP 38285 -> 25 x my HP

Fighting style : 1-H with A nice rapier, and shield that I buy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Item : 1 Goldy health potion, 2 Goldy mana Draught, 1 Superior mana potion, 1 Goldy Mana potion, and 1 Greater spirit Draught(use : 2 Goldy mana Draught, 1 Superior mana potion, and 1 Greater spirit Draught).
Strategy : just cast Weaken, Bewilder, Shield, regen (poison at end). then here you go !

That sounds like something Coredumperror would write. Despite both being mages, we don't always agree on how to play.

I don't recall writing that, but with my memory, who knows. Either way, I would have written it long before switching to mage. It's no longer applicable anyway, so I changed it.

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Well defeated Konata on the first try. It was surprisingly a lot easier than I expected. I ended up using 1 lesser mana draught, 1 lesser mana potion, 1 ave mana potion, and 1 ave mana draught. I forgot to get bewilder, that's why those 5 ability points are there and also forgot to change the items... thus the lesser ones.

Strategy I used was keeping her weakened at all times and poisoned when PA connected. For support magic, I used shield, occasional haste and regen, and cure after getting hit with the larger attack.

Here's the equipment lineup I used.
(IMG:[i906.photobucket.com] http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac261/hariaku/ehent/konata_equip.jpg)

Mikuru also down on the first try. This one took some more potions and a lot more time. She had like 60,000 HP to Konata's 33,000. 2 ave mana(one of each type), 2 greater mana(one of each type), 1 sup mana potion. Used the same setup as above but with bewilder.

(IMG:[i906.photobucket.com] http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac261/hariaku/ehent/Mikuru.jpg)

This post has been edited by hariaku: Mar 28 2010, 09:13

@ yuripe

Congrats on beating Konata (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Next is Mikuru, She was like.. Konata with HPx2 and have higher spirits attacks damage, pretty much the same otherwise.

@ hariaku

Congrats on beating Konata & Mikuru (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Since you could use magic, I believed you would have no problems with Ryouko. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Her spirits damage was just a bit harder than Mikuru and have around the same HP, she seem to be faster as well I believed.

I must have been tired at the time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I swear the first time I take a quick look at Ryouko I saw that I hit her for around 300 damage with my axe (+PA perhaps)

The second time I fight her, I could hit her with my rapier for no more than 18 and 130-150 with PA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) My preparation wasn't take this into account and and all of my plans are ruined (I used 12% 4 turn rapier while I have 22% 4 turn, infusion of divinity and scroll of the gods was like... useless)

It was a long and brutal fight, I died in the end (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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but I think I did pretty well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I believed I could defeat her with only physical attack alone, but it seem that I might need to be more creatives & prepared.

Oh, and more tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Questions

Did Ryouko have more "Piercing" damage mitigation than "Slashing" ? I'm quite certain that I hit her much harder with axe and PA or maybe I really just simply confused the numbers? or maybe because her level was the same as me this time and not lower as before? (but this doesn't seem to make sense..)

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 29 2010, 05:51

I must have been tired at the time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I swear the first time I take a quick look at Ryouko I saw that I hit her for around 300 damage with my axe (+PA perhaps)

I believed I could defeat her with only physical attack alone, but it seem that I might need to be more creatives & prepared.

Oh, and more tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Questions

Did Ryouko have more "Piercing" damage mitigation than "Slashing" ? I'm quite certain that I hit her much harder with axe and PA or maybe I really just simply confused the numbers? or maybe because her level was the same as me this time and not lower as before? (but this doesn't seem to make sense..)

-You're talking about bleeding right? and bleeding damage only depends on damage per tick and proficiency.
-I don't know since I never use a axe it her before, but Ryouko and Yuki were physical immune before, only in this last release they appear to a lost it, but still remain high mitigation, plus don't forget that you 2W with your axe and rapier first so you had more attack damage, than with a rapier alone, and of course have less damage component than an axe (I assume you're used a shield).
That probably made the difference in damage you saw.
Good luck next time buktore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 29 2010, 13:43

- Nope, I mean the actual physical attack damage, if I'm not confuse the number that is.. it can't be the bleed DMG anyway, I'm only at LV 77 ya know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

- To tell you the truth, I actually can't remember what gears did I use at that time at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) But I highly doubt that it would make so much difference in damage like that unless my own theory is correct. I mean, it does make sense since we also have Damage Type just like the monster, if the monster didn't have different type of Damage mitigation then what's the point of us having Attack Damage Type to begin with?

or it might be just my own delusion.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I might try it again next time if I have tokens.

EDIT : typo

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 30 2010, 02:03

I think I've fought Ryouko twice with the Axe+Rapier setup, and in both cases I paid absolutely no attention to the battle log... But I found this:

Bwah?!:
129 2 Your offhand hits Ryouko Asakura for 6 slashing damage.
129 1 You hit Ryouko Asakura for 1 piercing damage.

Why would my offhand hit for 6 when my mainhand is consistently hitting for 1? So confused....

It looks like slashing damage could hurt her when piercing couldn't, so she might still be weaker against slashing.

I found this too.

208 7 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated.
208 6 Bleeding Wound hits Ryouko Asakura for 306 damage.
208 5 Spreading Poison hits Ryouko Asakura for 193 damage.
208 4 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat.
208 3 Impaler hits you for 2005 cold damage.
208 2 Ryouko Asakura uses Impaler
208 1 You hit Ryouko Asakura for 52 slashing damage.

That's better than you were doing with your rapier. The problem is, I don't know if PA was in effect when I did that. I suspect that it wasn't, though, otherwise I would have cast Banish to finish her off, or used my Spirit Attack.

INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN BEATEN

325 11 You gain 100563 Credits!
325 10 You gain 38217.35 EXP!
325 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
325 8 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Blood]
325 7 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Average Leather Leggings]
325 6 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn]
325 5 You are Victorious!

i brought 8 last elixirs and 5 mana elixirs to the battle
i had a Scroll of The Gods and a Scroll of The Avatar in my scroll slots
i had an Infusion of Gaia in my infusion slot
i used 5 mana elixirs and 1 last elixir since i only had 5 mana elixirs

here is the equipment i used

Fine Titanium Rapier of The Nimble
Fine Sapphire Dagger of The Battlecaster
Fair Phase Cap of The Fenrir
Fine Cotton Robe of The Thrice-Blessed
Average Cotton Gloves of The Thrice-Blessed
Average Cotton Pants of The Thrice-Blessed
Average Cotton Shoes of The Thrice-Blessed

28% Evade
39.5% Parry
81.22 Total Holy Mitigation (17% Holy Rating)

my strategy was to keep IPU silenced and nerfed
i kept haste and shadow veil on myself the whole battle
PA+poison and regen+slow when my hp got low

This post has been edited by mr daniels: Mar 30 2010, 05:48

Real Life beaten

Me: Lvl 111
RL: Lvl 107 (~190'000HP)



Tactic:
DW with this Axe and this Rapier.
25% Evade, 13% Parry, 12% Resist.
Bleed did 290 damage, Soul Harvest something between 500 and 700.
Weaken & Bewilder always on. Poison when PA proc.(150-200 damage).
Internet Shutdown hit twice (Spark of Life), once evaded, once resisted, once absorbed.
Used 2 Spirit Elixir, 1 Last Elixir (wasted), 7 Mana Elixir & 1 Scroll of the Gods. Would have better took 2 more Mana Elixir with me than the Spirit ones.

FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER HAS BEEN BEATEN

1619 13 You gain 200644 Credits!
1619 12 You gain 41675 EXP!
1619 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
1619 10 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
1619 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Scroll of the Avatar]
1619 8 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
1619 7 You are Victorious!

my strategy was silence + nerf 100%, slow when my HP got low, PA+Poison, and a whole lot of bleeding
i kept haste, regen, and shadow veil on at all times
i brought in 10 mana elixirs and 3 last elixirs
1 mana elixir was left over

the equipment i used

Fine Prism Axe
Fine Titanium Rapier of The Nimble
Fine Cotton Cap of The Spirit-Ward
Fine Cotton Robe of The Spirit-Ward
Fine Cotton Gloves of The Spirit-Ward
Average Cotton Pants of The Spirit-Ward
Fair Leather Boots of The Spirit-Ward

22.8% Evade
28.9% Parry
95.22% Dark Mitigation (17% Dark Rating)

FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER HAS BEEN BEATEN

Fine Prism Axe
Fine Titanium Rapier of The Nimble
Fine Cotton Cap of The Spirit-Ward
Fine Cotton Robe of The Spirit-Ward
Fine Cotton Gloves of The Spirit-Ward
Average Cotton Pants of The Spirit-Ward
Fair Leather Boots of The Spirit-Ward

22.8% Evade
28.9% Parry
95.22% Dark Mitigation (17% Dark Rating)

Congrats mr daniels, now you're a master of RoB as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
But I have a question, how did you get 95,22% dark mitigation? All my gear have better mitigation than yours, but only gives me 68,1% mitigation, I know you have 17% rating (where you got this anyway?) but that don't explain the difference in 27,12% mitigation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

14.18+18.28+14.19+23.98+16.09+8.5=95.55
i have all three spectral auras
the black aura gives an extra +5 bonus to dark rating
the rainbow aura gives an extra +2 bonus to dark rating

14.18+18.28+14.19+23.98+16.09+8.5=95.55
i have all three spectral auras
the black aura gives an extra +5 bonus to dark rating
the rainbow aura gives an extra +2 bonus to dark rating

Oh rainbow aura gives +2 bonus to dark rating I forgot that.
But sadly you're wrong, because bonus stats from equipments aren't additive but by stacking instead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

See here:

Equipment terms:
All percentage based stats follow multiplicative stacking. This means you get diminishing returns from each additional piece. For example, If you have a 10% hit bonus from a piece of equipment, using a weapon with a 10% bonus will increase your weapon accuracy by 9%, not 10% (more on equipment accuracy and character accuracy later in the thread). This is because the weapon grants +10% only on the remaining 90% not effected by the equipment. Your total would be 19%. If you had an additional +10% from another single piece of armor, this would add an effective 8.1% (10% of the remaining 81%). This works the same way for all percentages on equipment in the HV, each piece will have diminishing returns. Bonuses from auras are now added at full value, not using multiplicative stacking.

In other words: 0,085 + (1-0,085)*0,1609 + (1-(0,085+ (1-0,085)*0,1609)) .... = some result that I'm lazy to calculate.


I'm quite surprised a veteran member like you didn't knew that, but that doesn't matter, what matters is that you won (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

all that multiplying stuff is crazy i still won and i didn't know about the multiplicative stuff because i never looked for it

The total mitigation is displayed on the equipment screen...

The total mitigation is displayed on the equipment screen...

That's true (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

all that multiplying stuff is crazy i still won and i didn't know about the multiplicative stuff because i never looked for it

Of course you won, and that's what matter, but try to see from my point of view:

FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER HAS BEEN BEATEN
i brought in 10 mana elixirs and 3 last elixirs
1 mana elixir was left over
95.22% Dark Mitigation (17% Dark Rating)
mr daniels level 180

First thought was, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) damn I'll never going to have a chance against him.
That's why I insisted in that matter (not that I have a chance to win for now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))

who is spending 1000s of credits buying god trophies out of the shop?
someone bought my Black T-Shirt, IPU Horn, and Noodly Appendage

who is spending 1000s of credits buying god trophies out of the shop?
someone bought my Black T-Shirt, IPU Horn, and Noodly Appendage

I WOULD have had I known you were selling them. Yeah, it is probably a waste of credits, but you can get "superior" equipment from those trophies. Maybe with a good roll I'd get something worthy of that title. Credits are so expendable that it is worth a shot.

I WOULD have had I known you were selling them. Yeah, it is probably a waste of credits, but you can get "superior" equipment from those trophies. Maybe with a good roll I'd get something worthy of that title. Credits are so expendable that it is worth a shot.

but i didn't want to risk getting a superior POS of no suffix which is worth less then the trophy is worth

but i didn't want to risk getting a superior POS of no suffix which is worth less then the trophy is worth

I understand where you're coming from....but if, due to things like Adopt-A-Server and H@H you are in possession of a good "cash" flow, then it isn't all that much of a risk and you usually do get a pretty good Item when you sacrifice those Trophies.

Usually.

Although I must say.........if that was your Noodly Appendage that I bought yesterday or the day before that...all that I got from it was an Superior..........Cotton piece whose stats weren't very good despite the quality prefix. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Oh well, better luck next time.


ALMOST FORGOT TO ASK: Due to the "elemental" nature of Invisible Pink Unicorn's attacks (read: physical hits deal Holy damage)....does it do any good in battle to cast "Weaken" on her??

Or is one forced to rely on Holy Mitigation to soak up the damage??

Or does one have to use both?


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Apr 2 2010, 12:09