 |
 |
 |
How do I beat a Legendary? |
|
Mar 20 2010, 20:53
|
grumpymal
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,923
Joined: 2-April 08

|
So. I was curious, and it seems Ryouko can be melee'd to death with Niten. It just took a little longer without PA. Presumably, Yuki can be dealt with the same way. Edit: LOL, ran into a Lv186 Yuki in To Kill a God. Took 332 agonizing turns, won't be doing that again. Have some stats: QUOTE Accuracy: 298/300 (99.33%), Crits: 104/298 (34.90%), Offhand: 136/298 (45.64%), Counter: 0/0 (0%), Domino: 4/298 (1.34%), OverStrikes: 0/298 (0.00%), Coalesce: 0/0 (0%), Interference: 0/25 (0.00%), Resists: 2/25 (8.00%), Spell Crits: 0/0 (0%), Avg hit dmg: 643.07|0, Avg crit dmg: 389.87|0, Avg dmg: 124892.06|0 Hits taken: 88/215 (40.93%), Missed: 50/215 (23.26%), Evaded: 52/215 (24.19%), Blocked: 0/215 (0.00%), Parried: 25/215 (11.63%), Resisted: 0/0 (0%), Crits taken: 19/88 (21.59%), Total taken: 52876, Avg taken: 35348.47 This post has been edited by cmal: Mar 20 2010, 21:17
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 21 2010, 01:36
|
hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

|
QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Mar 20 2010, 17:24)  What I mean is: for every Mana Elixir I use, I can take off X amount of FSM's health. When I tried PA+Holy, X was only about 60% of what I got with DW Axe+Rapier. I would need to increase my spell damage by 2/3 just to get even with what I can do with DW. Battlecaster equipment isn't going to help much...
Battlecaster helps more than you think, because it also have magic damage component and acc look at this example: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c50f4da8f3Well +3% is not much but I've seen some with +10%. QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Mar 20 2010, 17:24)  I don't think a dagger with that much parry exists. I certainly don't have one. As for Silence, I wish I could use it, but it doesn't work. He hits too hard if he's not Weakened.
You right I made a mistake with my calculations here. QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Mar 20 2010, 17:24)  That's the plan. I'm going to work on leveling up my axe and maybe increasing my DW prof. If all else fails, I can save up for the last two levels of Pack Rat. I think another two Elixirs would be just about enough to get the job done.
Good luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 21 2010, 01:36
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 23 2010, 20:38
|
buktore
Group: Members
Posts: 4,353
Joined: 9-September 09

|
Konata down(IMG:[ i184.photobucket.com] http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/buktore/123.png) First try, It was actually easier than the boss when I fight them at LV 50. Her skill & spirit attacks didn't seem to hit me as far as I know (except the last hits) Me = LV 75 Avoidance : 30.4% evade, 34% block, 7.5% parry, 11% resist
|
|
|
Mar 23 2010, 20:57
|
20200
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,687
Joined: 28-May 07

|
QUOTE(buktore @ Mar 23 2010, 11:38)  Konata down
Remember, Konata is the easiest of the legendaries. She is basically a glorified boss. If you go into the other legendary battles expecting the same level of challenge, you will be in for a rude awakening.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 23 2010, 21:11
|
hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

|
QUOTE(buktore @ Mar 23 2010, 18:38)  Konata down
Me = LV 75 Avoidance : 30.4% evade, 34% block, 7.5% parry, 11% resist
Your stats says to me, that you didn't use mitigation gear right? I don't remember how much HP Konata could take from me with is spirit attack, but I'm sure that the other 3 are 1hit-KO with the HP pool you have, even weakened/bewildered, so since you don't have Spark of life I suggest to use about 20/25% mitigation next time. Edit: just out of curiosity what items did you use? This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 23 2010, 21:12
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 23 2010, 22:38
|
buktore
Group: Members
Posts: 4,353
Joined: 9-September 09

|
I try Mikuru and I died, oh well..
Still, not really that hard, I died simply because my MP ran out (I didn't know she has that much HP, I didn't bring any elixir and I don't have any pack rat) her HP was down to about 10% before I died.
If I use scroll of avatar, her spirit attack didn't kill me in 1 hit, I might replace scroll of the god with avatar since it seem kinda waste to me.
192 4 You have been defeated. 192 3 Time Quake hits you for 1111 dark damage. << without bewilder (which I only have it LV3) cause my mana ran out.
139 3 Time Quake hits you for 794 dark damage. 139 2 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake
I have 25.9 % dark mitigation BTW.
Me = LV 75 Avoidance : 26.1% evade, 34% block, 7.4% parry, 10.8% resist
Part of the logs
161 3 Mikuru Asahina gains the effect Penetrated Armor. 161 2 You gain the effect Overwhelming Strikes. 161 1 You crit Mikuru Asahina for 865 piercing damage. 160 3 Spreading Poison hits Mikuru Asahina for 82 damage. 160 2 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina. 160 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 548 piercing damage. 159 2 Mikuru Asahina gains the effect Spreading Poison. 159 1 You cast Poison. 158 6 The effect Spreading Poison on Mikuru Asahina has expired. 158 5 The effect Weakened on Mikuru Asahina has expired. 158 4 Spreading Poison hits Mikuru Asahina for 59 damage. 158 3 Mikuru Asahina misses the attack against you. 158 2 You gain the effect Overwhelming Strikes. 158 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 506 piercing damage. 157 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 460 piercing damage. 156 3 Spreading Poison hits Mikuru Asahina for 59 damage. 156 2 You evade the attack from Mikuru Asahina. 156 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 461 piercing damage. 155 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 511 piercing damage.
This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 25 2010, 13:36
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 03:03
|
buktore
Group: Members
Posts: 4,353
Joined: 9-September 09

|
Mikuru down(IMG:[ i184.photobucket.com] http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x207/buktore/222.png) Mikuru : LV 73 HP 61,965 Me = LV 75 Avoidance : 26.2% evade, 34.1% block, 7.5% parry, 10.8% resist Didn't get hit by her spirit, 2 blocked, 1 evaded, 1 missed I have a glimpse at Ryouko, I bring my axe (for bleed) + rapier to test it out because at first I thought that, even with PA, I can't deal a decent physical damage to her but this doesn't seem to be the case if I remember correctly. She might even be easier than mikuru since I don't have to bewilder her and her spirit didn't 1 hit KO me (with 23.8% cold mitigation of course) 78 4 Impaler hits you for 1025 cold damage. 78 3 Ryouko Asakura uses Impaler But now, I'm out of token. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 03:51
|
BlorgAlmighty
Group: Members
Posts: 802
Joined: 11-October 09

|
How much harder is Konata compared to the Bosses? I've managed to beat all but the ManBearPig with 1 or 2 Greater Mana Potions, and I'm wondering what I'd have to use to beat Konata. I mean, Dalek, Mithra and White Bunneh use physical spirit attacks (according to the Wiki) so I consider them to be easier than the ManBearPig (who I haven't fought yet) because I can just rely on Weaken. Does having to use Bewilder / Silence ramp up the difficulty?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:04
|
20200
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,687
Joined: 28-May 07

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 18:51)  How much harder is Konata compared to the Bosses? Not that much. QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 18:51)  I mean, Dalek, Mithra and White Bunneh use physical spirit attacks (according to the Wiki) so I consider them to be easier than the ManBearPig (who I haven't fought yet) because I can just rely on Weaken.
Eh, Global Warming is generally a 1-shot for lower level people, but I'm not sure the MBP is any harder. QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 18:51)  Does having to use Bewilder / Silence ramp up the difficulty?
Using Silence would make things a lot harder. Bewilder just causes you to spend a little more MP.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:07
|
BlorgAlmighty
Group: Members
Posts: 802
Joined: 11-October 09

|
So, are there any Bosses / Legendary Monsters / etc. in which Silence is preferable to Bewilder + Weaken?
According to the Wiki, "Yuki uses both Physical and Magical damage attacks, so both Weaken and Bewilder should be used, unless the player has access to Silence, which should be used instead."
Are there instances in which it's better to be hit with physical attacks for the sake of being able to prevent Spirit / Magic attacks?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:11
|
hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 24 2010, 02:07)  So, are there any Bosses / Legendary Monsters / etc. in which Silence is preferable to Bewilder + Weaken?
According to the Wiki, "Yuki uses both Physical and Magical damage attacks, so both Weaken and Bewilder should be used, unless the player has access to Silence, which should be used instead."
Are there instances in which it's better to be hit with physical attacks for the sake of being able to prevent Spirit / Magic attacks?
You're talking about a ability you can only have access at level 110, at that time bosses and legendaries are no threat.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:13
|
20200
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,687
Joined: 28-May 07

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 19:07)  So, are there any Bosses / Legendary Monsters / etc. in which Silence is preferable to Bewilder + Weaken?
Yes, if by the etc. you mean the Godlies. QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 19:07)  According to the Wiki, "Yuki uses both Physical and Magical damage attacks, so both Weaken and Bewilder should be used, unless the player has access to Silence, which should be used instead."
That sounds like something Coredumperror would write. Despite both being mages, we don't always agree on how to play. QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 19:07)  Are there instances in which it's better to be hit with physical attacks for the sake of being able to prevent Spirit / Magic attacks?
Yes. The Godlies (at least the IPU and the FSM. I haven't decided on Real Life.). They have so much HP that you cannot carry enough Spirit elixirs to allow you to keep Spark of Life active at all times while still having enough Mana Elixirs to kill them. This post has been edited by Boggyb: Mar 24 2010, 04:14
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:14
|
BlorgAlmighty
Group: Members
Posts: 802
Joined: 11-October 09

|
I'm the guy who's at level 56 and hasn't beaten Blazing Field yet. I have low confidence in my HV abilities, and I don't think levels are going to change that.
Maybe I should use items more often...
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:22
|
20200
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,687
Joined: 28-May 07

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 19:14)  I'm the guy who's at level 56 and hasn't beaten Blazing Field yet. I have low confidence in my HV abilities, and I don't think levels are going to change that.
The arenas are much harder at the lower levels than they are at the higher ones (until End of Days at 220 which scares the living shit out of me). QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 23 2010, 19:14)  Maybe I should use items more often...
You should. They serve no purpose if you are not using them. If you need some, PM me and I'll hook you up. This post has been edited by Boggyb: Mar 24 2010, 04:22
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:25
|
BlorgAlmighty
Group: Members
Posts: 802
Joined: 11-October 09

|
Nah, lack of items isn't my problem. I got like 200+ each of the Health healers, and 100+ each of the Mana healers (discounting Superior, Godly and Elixirs). I just have a tendency to hoard instead of using them. I don't use them for Item World nor Arena, which may explain that.
|
|
|
Mar 24 2010, 04:29
|
hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 24 2010, 02:14)  I'm the guy who's at level 56 and hasn't beaten Blazing Field yet. I have low confidence in my HV abilities, and I don't think levels are going to change that.
Maybe I should use items more often...
Make some screenshots of your stats/gear on the ask to the experts thread, and wait for someone to advise you.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 26 2010, 02:57
|
hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

|
I was trying to avoid double posting, but since no one post: Invisible Pink Unicorn Down IPU: HP=297470 MP=47 SP=185 L106 Fighting style: Ethereal (borrowed from a very nice guy) + Shield Strategic: Silence+Poison+regen, slow/cure when HP low, and hit hit hit...and hit..... and more hitting (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) stats: 41% block 19,3% evade 75,7% holy mitigation (10% from the 2 holy ratings) Mitigation Gear: CapRobe (borrowed from Boggyb) Gloves (borrowed from Boggyb) PantsShoesScary moments: 1029 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Silenced. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) 1029 1 You cast Silence. 1028 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn resists your spell. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) 1028 1 You cast Silence. 1027 5 The effect Silenced on Invisible Pink Unicorn has expired. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) 1157 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn gains the effect Silenced. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) 1157 1 You cast Silence. 1156 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn resists your spell. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) 1156 1 You cast Silence. 1155 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn resists your spell. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) 1155 1 You cast Silence. Other moments: Mini-Spirit attack: 954 1 You unleash Holy Bell on Invisible Pink Unicorn for 776 soul damage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Counter-Attack: 1155 4 You counter Invisible Pink Unicorn for 147 points of soul damage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 1155 3 You block the attack from Invisible Pink Unicorn. I spent 7 mana elixirs and I had still 1 left. With Ethereals it's a piece of cake really. Now I have also a unicorn horn, only FSM remains, but I need more mitigation gear, master the pack rat, level up, and being lucky again.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Mar 26 2010, 04:00
|
BlorgAlmighty
Group: Members
Posts: 802
Joined: 11-October 09

|
About element mitigation, do monsters attack with a certain element? For instance, are the basic physical attacks of the Invisible Pink Unicorn Holy?
|
|
|
Mar 26 2010, 04:19
|
grumpymal
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,923
Joined: 2-April 08

|
QUOTE(BlorgAlmighty @ Mar 25 2010, 22:00)  About element mitigation, do monsters attack with a certain element? For instance, are the basic physical attacks of the Invisible Pink Unicorn Holy?
Short answer: Yes.
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
 |
 |
 |
|