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post Feb 6 2010, 02:42
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Beaten Konata: Level 81 with 39128HP
Me: Level 86, 1903HP, 366MP, 97SP
Avoidance: 18.7% Evade, 32% Block, 10.9% Parry, 8.9% Resist
Compromise: 15.6 Interference, 35.4 Burden

Used:
2x Infusion of Storms
1x Greater Mana Draught
1x Greater Mana Potion
Innate Arcane with Shadow Veil
This Rapier
This Shield
and 3x Silk Equip, 1x Cotton Equip (+18.75% Elec Mitigation) and 1x Phase Equip

146 16 You gain 25093 Credits!
146 15 You gain 2800.05 EXP!
146 14 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
146 13 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
146 12 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Health Draught]
146 11 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]
146 10 You are Victorious!
146 9 Regen restores you with 50 points of health.
146 8 The effect Penetrated Armor on Konata has expired.
146 7 The effect Weakened on Konata has expired.
146 6 The effect Bewildered on Konata has expired.
146 5 Konata has been defeated.
146 4 Spreading Poison hits Konata for 157 damage.
146 3 Konata hits you for 181 crushing damage.
146 2 Konata gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
146 1 You hit Konata for 63 piercing damage.

Regen, Weaken, Bewilder and Poison always on and then hitting for something like 50-70 piercing damage (280-350 with PA). Poison helps a lot doing some decent damage and decreasing the possibility to evade my attacks. Got hit twice by Petanko Smash (650-700 damage each). Blocked most Timotei. Didn't use Spirit Attack.
IMHO the infusions aren't really necessary, but it's definitely important to have a good rapier and a good shield AND deprecating spells.

Thanks to everyone who posted useful information about how to beat this legendary!
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post Feb 11 2010, 01:29
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Since I'm so close to enter EndGame, I decided to try one of the bosses in RoB again, just to see how I am doing.

37 9 You gain 19 Credits!
37 8 You gain 383.94 EXP!
37 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
37 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Blood]
37 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Greater Health Potion]
37 4 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
37 3 You are Victorious!
37 2 Dalek has been defeated.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=19 (Dalek) LV=87 HP=13970 MP=21 SP=95 NA=74 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #104 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

I casted haste + slow + weaken + regen (which was mostly wasted) and ta-daa dalek dead.
What a joke, I mean, I didn't used items, and only spend half of my MP.
Now I really known, I'm ready of EndGame, probably I only need 4 Great Mana Draughts to finish it, and better yet, I recovered the token I used (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


PS: X-Attack rocks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Feb 11 2010, 02:33
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Beaten Mikuru Asahina: Level 85 with 71910HP
Me: Level 88, 1953HP, 380MP, 99SP
Avoidance: 18.9% Evade, 32.2% Block, 10.9% Parry, 12.8% Resist
Compromise: 15.5 Interference, 29.1 Burden

Used:
1x Mana Elixir
2x Superior Mana Draught
1x Scroll of the Gods
Innate Arcane with Haste
Same Rapier & Shield used fighting Konata
3x Silk Equip and 2x Phase Equip (no special dark mitigation).

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Regen, Weaken, Bewilder, Poison and SLOW (!!) always on and then hitting for something like 30-35 piercing damage (300-350 with PA). When PA proc. -> casting Purge (750-1100 damage). Poison did help doing 150-200 damage with PA.
Time Quake got absorbed (-> Scroll of the Gods). Mikuru Beam got my only once for something like 350 Soul damage, the others I blocked or missed.

The first attempt I tried without Haste and Slow -> she had approx. 10000Hp of 73000Hp left as I got killed by Time Quake (forgot the 2nd Scroll of the Gods).
This time I was lucky. The spirit bar was full since 15-20 turns, but she didn't use Time Quake twice.
IMHO PA + AOE Holy works well as long as you have Haste AND Slow, but it's very mana intensive compared to Konata (or the Bosses).

So, now I have to read about how to beat Ryouko and Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 11 2010, 03:02
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Congrats on beating Mikuru!

QUOTE(Master_S @ Feb 11 2010, 00:33) *

So, now I have to read about how to beat Ryouko and Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


They are almost the same, they have only just a little more HP, and their attacks hit a little harder nothing more.
And of course, see the wiki for more information.
Also, if you have no hurry to defeat them, I advise you to wait until you got l90 since you almost there, you'll have Banish, and you'll see a great improvement, because of X-Attack.
Well, at least you'll save some items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 11 2010, 03:24
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QUOTE(Master_S @ Feb 11 2010, 00:33) *

So, now I have to read about how to beat Ryouko and Yuki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Now that you mention it... I tried out the DW Axe + Rapier method on those two to see how it compared with using a Staff. It's about time I posted the results.

254 4 Yuki Nagato has been defeated.
254 3 Smite hits Yuki Nagato for 930 holy damage.
254 2 You cast Smite.

I helped things along by casting Holy spells whenever I got PA, but most of the damage was done by Poison and Bleeding Wound. It was a lot quicker than using a Staff, but paradoxically it required a lot more mana restoratives. Used 7 Superior Draughts.

208 7 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated.
208 6 Bleeding Wound hits Ryouko Asakura for 306 damage.
208 5 Spreading Poison hits Ryouko Asakura for 193 damage.
208 4 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat.
208 3 Impaler hits you for 2005 cold damage.
208 2 Ryouko Asakura uses Impaler
208 1 You hit Ryouko Asakura for 52 slashing damage.

4 Godly Mana Draughts used. Spark of Life triggered twice. If you don't have Spark, you will need Scrolls of Life/the Gods.
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post Feb 11 2010, 03:40
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Feb 11 2010, 02:02) *

Congrats on beating Mikuru!
Also, if you have no hurry to defeat them, I advise you to wait until you got l90 since you almost there, you'll have Banish, and you'll see a great improvement, because of X-Attack.
Well, at least you'll save some items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks! But after beaten Mikuru I got impatient, so I tried Ryouko (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You were right! I used the same strategy (PA + Purge). I want to do them before Level 90, because I'm gonna reset my Ability Tree and then won't have full Haste & Slow for some levels.

Beaten Ryouko Asakura: Level 84 with 71145HP
Me: Level 88, 1961HP, 380MP, 99SP
Avoidance: 18.9% Evade, 32.2% Block, 10.9% Parry, 12.8% Resist
Compromise: 15.5 Interference, 29.1 Burden

Used:
2x Mana Elixir
1x Scroll of the Gods
Innate Arcane with Haste
Same Rapier & Shield used fighting Konata & Mikuru
3x Silk Equip and 2x Phase Equip (no special cold mitigation).

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Regen, Weaken, Poison and SLOW always on and then hitting for something like 10-20 piercing damage (25-30 with PA). When PA proc. -> casting Purge (750-1100 damage). Poison did help doing 150-200 damage with PA.
Impaler missed. Spike Shot got my only once for 348 Soul damage, the others I blocked or missed.

Same strategy like I used against Mikuru: PA + Purge, but there's no need for Bewilder (Spike Shot is physical). Still mana intensive, but ok for 25000C.

Yuki, you're next!

Beaten Yuki Nagato: Level 83 with 70380HP
Me: Level 88, 1961HP, 380MP, 103SP
Avoidance: 18.9% Evade, 32.2% Block, 10.9% Parry, 12.8% Resist
Compromise: 15.5 Interference, 29.1 Burden

Used:
1x Mana Elixir
2x Superior Mana Draught
1x Scroll of the Gods
Innate Arcane with Haste
Same Rapier & Shield used fighting Konata & Mikuru & Ryouko
3x Silk Equip and 2x Phase Equip (no special dark mitigation).

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Regen, Weaken, Bewilder, Poison and SLOW always on and then hitting for something like 10-20 piercing damage. When PA proc. -> casting Purge (750-1100 damage). Poison did help doing 150-200 damage with PA.
Data Rewrite got absorbed once, the other blocked. Stoic Staredown got my only once for 313 Soul damage, the others I evaded or missed.

Same strategy like I used against Mikuru & Ryouko: PA + Purge (+Bewilder recommended).

Now some time to prepare for Real Life and collecting Token of Blood.

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post Feb 11 2010, 03:53
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Feb 11 2010, 02:24) *

Now that you mention it... I tried out the DW Axe + Rapier method on those two to see how it compared with using a Staff.

Interesting approach. Unfortunately with my profs in DW and my best axe, bleeding wound wouldn't cause more than 215 damage for 2 turns...but nevertheless interesting for a second try with better equips. Thanks for sharing your results.
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post Feb 15 2010, 02:47
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Real Life Beaten!!!

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Okay, not really.

But I got him down from 214625 HP to 64092... which isn't even close to winning, but I'm amazed I got that far as it is on a trial run. I'm almost positive if I had maybe 6 more item slots, I'd have won. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Feb 20 2010, 06:30
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QUOTE(dap00 @ Feb 14 2010, 17:47) *
Real Life Beaten!!!

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Okay, not really.

But I got him down from 214625 HP to 64092... which isn't even close to winning, but I'm amazed I got that far as it is on a trial run. I'm almost positive if I had maybe 6 more item slots, I'd have won. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Did you fight him as a Mage or as a Tank...or something in between?

Me Grimlock try to beat Real Life as a Tank.

Me Grimlock need new strategy.

(For one thing, I guess that I'm going to have purchase/reassign AP into high-powered Soul Spells and then up their Proficiencies.)
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post Feb 20 2010, 07:40
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Feb 19 2010, 20:30) *

Did you fight him as a Mage or as a Tank...or something in between?


Something in between, sorta.

All cloth/high evade armor, DW (for bleed damage, though considering the way I attacked, a shield might be better next time) with rapier and axe, and I mostly threw Soul spells at him while PA was up. Though, my Soul prof. wasn't high enough, and I wasted some MP in certain places, plus I actually used my Spirit attack (for all the good THAT did).

But, um, I'm probably the last person you should be asking for advice on this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Feb 21 2010, 08:18
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Don't forget that it's totally worth using your Spirit Attack when you have just 2 or 3 SP. With PA up, a "mini spirit attack" as marcho dubbed them, can deal upwards of 800 damage to IPU and FSM. Since RL is weak to soul damage, it'd probably deal even more.
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post Feb 21 2010, 23:37
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Do I need to pick up Wind magic to beat Konata as a pure mage? The wiki says that is her only weakness, but it also doesn't have any resistances listed...
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She is also fairly weak to Soul damage, though I don't know how it compares to Wind.
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 21 2010, 13:37) *
Do I need to pick up Wind magic to beat Konata as a pure mage? The wiki says that is her only weakness, but it also doesn't have any resistances listed...


I'd never fought any of the legendaries as a mage before, so when I read your post I decided to try it out. Here's the result, using only Magic Missile and Thunderstorm as damage sources:
(IMG:[i47.tinypic.com] http://i47.tinypic.com/2ldk7pi.png)

It took a little while, surely quite a bit longer than it would have using Wind magic, but after having used only 1 mana draught, you can see how it ended up (I took the screenshot before she died to illustrate how much MP I had left).

I now have a much better understanding of how Hito could clear End of Days, seeing as how Ether Theft + Channeling allowed me to basically spend 0 net MP over the course of the entire fight. I was able to cast very nearly every supportive, curative, and deprecating spell with Channeling, and Ether Theft gave me back all the rest of the mana I spent on Thunderstorms. I actually got to the point where I was intentionally procing Ether Theft while I was at 100% mana, simply because I needed a Channeling proc to refresh a buff or debuff.

The biggest thing I learned here, though, is how much of a difference Nerf makes on the target's Barrier Rating. Before I started using Nerf, Thunderstorm was hitting for ~180-220, and you can see in my screenshot that with Nerf, my damage output almost doubled! I only have 1 AP in Nerf right now (I picked it up to determine it's mana cost, for the wiki), but I'm gonna be putting my next 4 AP into it for sure.

EDIT: Took down Mikuru as a mage. Banish spam with ~170 divine prof and +15% holy damage was quite effective.
(IMG:[i46.tinypic.com] http://i46.tinypic.com/15pld78.png)
It was, however, quite a bit more mana intensive than killing Konata. I was getting really horrible luck with procing both Coalesced Mana and Ether Theft which meant I needed to down 3 Superior mana pots. However, Nerf + Breached Defenses + Banish = up to 6k Banish crits. Those took her down in a hurry.

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post Feb 22 2010, 17:44
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 21 2010, 21:37) *

Do I need to pick up Wind magic to beat Konata as a pure mage? The wiki says that is her only weakness, but it also doesn't have any resistances listed...

You don't need to pick up any offensive magic if you don't want to. You can actually beat all four girls just using Magic Missile. It takes forever, but uses the least mana.
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Feb 22 2010, 07:44) *

You don't need to pick up any offensive magic if you don't want to. You can actually beat all four girls just using Magic Missile. It takes forever, but uses the least mana.

If I carried 13 mana elixirs, I could also probably beat them whacking them with my stick and using poison. That doesn't mean I intend to do it that way.
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I just stabbed them to death without using a single item, surely an all-powerful mage could blast them with their fancy spells with ease.
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QUOTE(cmal @ Feb 22 2010, 09:20) *

I just stabbed them to death without using a single item, surely an all-powerful mage could blast them with their fancy spells with ease.

Eh. Their barrier rating is pretty high. Now they are not difficult if you can proc PA on them first, but it is a lot harder without. Maybe Nerf is the way to go...
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 22 2010, 12:25) *

Eh. Their barrier rating is pretty high. Now they are not difficult if you can proc PA on them first, but it is a lot harder without. Maybe Nerf is the way to go...

core did say 1 AP in Nerf has a noticeable effect on their Barrier rating.
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It's like Boggy just completely missed my post. Tisk, tisk. ::Finger waggle:: (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Plus, don't forget that the amount of AP you put into deprecating spells (except poison) only affects their duration, not their effect.
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