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post Jan 31 2010, 22:25
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Jan 30 2010, 19:07) *

EDIT: Yes, that means you need to spend some AP to pick up (at least) the highest tier of Fire, Cold, Holy, and Elec spells. But trust me, it's worth it. It used to take me several minutes to kill bosses as a mage, in both IW and arena. Then, I spent 12 AP to pick up Tier 3 Cold and Fire (I already had max-tier Holy and Elec), and now every boss dies in 20 seconds or less. They really just melt when you spam AOEs of their weakness.

That would cost me 33 AP I don't really have. I guess I could completely murder my supply of Overcharge boosts to do it, but yeah, I'll probably just keep whacking them with my stick and chalk it up as a chance to gain staff prof.
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post Feb 2 2010, 06:14
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I ran out and beat Ryouko, since I heard she and Yuki were sick or something.

Items Used: 2 Mana Elixirs, 1 Scroll of the Gods

Damage Without PA:
52 4 Regen restores you with 67 points of health.
52 3 Spreading Poison hits Ryouko Asakura for 227 damage.
52 2 Ryouko Asakura hits you for 267 slashing damage.
52 1 You hit Ryouko Asakura for 19 piercing damage.

Damage with PA:
64 1 You hit Ryouko Asakura for 171 piercing damage. (crit was around 300+ I guess)

Impaler fired once, missed.
Spike Shot hits you for 388 soul damage.

So they are sick. For now.

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I even brought some Bubble Gum in case she got well again in the middle of the fight. Not needed.

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post Feb 2 2010, 07:09
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jan 31 2010, 12:25) *

That would cost me 33 AP I don't really have. I guess I could completely murder my supply of Overcharge boosts to do it, but yeah, I'll probably just keep whacking them with my stick and chalk it up as a chance to gain staff prof.


I should have been more precise. I only picked up the first 6 points in Tier 3 Fire and Cold. It's not really worth it to spend 5 AP on a rating boost that you won't use for anything but a specific boss.

Also, if you're picking up any offensive magic at all, why are you putting anything into OC boost? I've found that elemental magic is utterly worthless unless you're playing as a pure mage.
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post Feb 2 2010, 18:32
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Ryouko Asakura down!

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Items used:4 mana elixirs ( although the last one it was almost completed wasted)
Equipment used: 2 leather pieces, which provided me 31 cold mitigation, (remind you I don't have spark of life yet) the rest high evasion silk, 1 shield , 1 rapier (2-turn 25% proc chance).
It was an error to use this rapier, since I have one with 4-turn 23% proc chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It was just a "test", to see how sick she was, and... ta-daa I kill her (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The strategic it was: PA+Purge, weaken+poison+regen.
I did use slow in the beginning, but it was unnecessary, because with 20,2% evasion, 31,1% block and 11,8% parry she missed so much, that regen could keep up with her attacks, so slow it was only consuming MP.
She's really sick because I had 27 Interference, and only 45 divine proficiency, but still it was easier than I ever imagined (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Now to the last legendary:Yuki Nagato


PS:They can no longer be physical immune, but meh... they are still a lot resistant, focus on physical attacks are not worth it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Feb 2 2010, 19:13
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Feb 1 2010, 21:09) *

Also, if you're picking up any offensive magic at all, why are you putting anything into OC boost?

Because I'm not a pure mage, except when I switch to my "pure mage" set. I use it when clearing the pre-Boss arenas and when IWing. The OC boost is nice when clearing the other arenas with my DW set.
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post Feb 2 2010, 19:47
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Yuki Nagato down! (only 1 hour later I've killed Ryouko) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Same set of equipment, only this time I used my leather robe with 26% dark mitigation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Same strategic used against Ryouko, but this time I used slow till end.
Items:6 mana elixirs, although the last one as pretty wasted. (2 adicional elixirs because I used slow, and bewilder)
Some data: 23,7 Interference, 21,7% evade, 31,1% block, 11,8% parry, 10,7 resist


Now, with all the legendaries defeated, I ready to kill the gods... not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
RoB only on l100 now, so time to level up.
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post Feb 2 2010, 21:52
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 2 2010, 09:13) *
Because I'm not a pure mage, except when I switch to my "pure mage" set. I use it when clearing the pre-Boss arenas and when IWing. The OC boost is nice when clearing the other arenas with my DW set.


Have you tried the Endgame+ arenas as a staff-wielding mage? I clear every round in 2-4 turns with a Chain Lightning at the Zombie Cow followed by a Flames of Loki at the Manthra. Since Zombie Cows are the only fire-resistant miniboss, the Chain Lighting kills it off (they're minor elec weak), and then the Flames of Loki clears out the rest of the mob, since every other miniboss is either weak or neutral to Fire. Sometimes the Manthra survives, since they have very high Barrier Rating, but then I just staff-smack or Magic Missile it to death. The boss round is a breeze as long as you have at least 6 points into the highest elemental tier that each boss is weak to (Elec, Holy, Cold, Fire), to get the maximum power and mana efficiency from the AOE spell.

I clear Sealed Power this way each day in about 8 minutes, using 4-5 greater/superior mana restoratives. I then do the rest of the arenas on Hard, using the same strategy. That takes more mana items, since I have to cast a few more AOEs each round, but the EXP is awesome. In the non-boss arenas, when I actually bother doing them, I play on Hard and just spam Soul Harvest/Reaper as my only source of damage, to get forbidden prof.
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post Feb 2 2010, 22:49
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Feb 2 2010, 11:52) *

Have you tried the Endgame+ arenas as a staff-wielding mage?

No, I had not. I just tried Feast For Crows, and wow. Other than the boss at the end, that was really easy and fast. I probably used more magic potions than I would had I DW'ed it though maybe that is not true because those 5 mini-boss turns usually hurt like a bitch. I think I might do that from now on, just because it is SOOO fast.

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post Feb 3 2010, 00:38
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I was wondering if it was possible to beat Ryouko and Yuki with a staff, now that Magic Missile is free and they're no longer immune to it. The answer, at least in Yuki's case, is yes. It took a while, though.

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My original plan was to use Magic Missile to proc Coalesced Mana, and use that to get cheap casts of Banish. I wore all the Heaven-sent gear I have in order to maximise my Holy damage... but as it turned out I should have gone with Elementalist stuff instead. When I saw Banish was only doing about 300 damage even with a +67 proficiency boost I decided not to bother with it, and from that point on I relied on Poison, Magic Missile and hitting her with my staff.

Items used: 2 Godly Mana Draughts, 2 Godly Spirit Draughts. As you can see I very nearly didn't need the second mana draught. The key was using a staff with a decent amount of Ether Theft (32% chance of 2 turns) so I could get back most of the mana I spent. Channeling also came in very handy for getting the more expensive spells, especially Spark of Life, for free.

As for Ryouko... I tried her first, but didn't take enough Spirit restoratives, so I had to run away. Since Impaler can't be Absorbed, every one that lands triggers Spark, and in a battle of that length, that's going to happen a lot. If I took one Mana Elixir, nine Godly Spirit Draughts and a Scroll of the Gods, that would probably do the trick. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:12
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 2 2010, 12:49) *
No, I had not. I just tried Feast For Crows, and wow. Other than the boss at the end, that was really easy and fast. I probably used more magic potions than I would had I DW'ed it though maybe that is not true because those 5 mini-boss turns usually hurt like a bitch. I think I might do that from now on, just because it is SOOO fast.


Told ya (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). And with the right magic spells to use against each boss, even the last round isn't a big deal. With my current gear and abilities, I can kill any of the 4 bosses in 20 turns or less.

@Sayo: Do you think it would have been harder if you had used Silence? It seems like not having to worry about Absorb or Spark might make up for the increased healing you'd have to do.

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Probably a dumb question.

Is there a reason why Skuld, Urd, Verdandi, and Yggdrasil (b.k.a. The Trio and The Tree) haven't been added to the Wiki Bestiary? I'd do it, but I don't want to risk screwing up the neat tables and everything. Plus I'm not sure if they'd be squished into Legendaries or Gods, or if they'd get their own little table (Goddesses?).
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QUOTE(dap00 @ Feb 2 2010, 19:21) *

Probably a dumb question.

Is there a reason why Skuld, Urd, Verdandi, and Yggdrasil (b.k.a. The Trio and The Tree) haven't been added to the Wiki Bestiary? I'd do it, but I don't want to risk screwing up the neat tables and everything. Plus I'm not sure if they'd be squished into Legendaries or Gods, or if they'd get their own little table (Goddesses?).

They've got a table set up in the Talk page, it just hasn't been added to the main article yet.
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Feb 2 2010, 23:12) *

@Sayo: Do you think it would have been harder if you had used Silence? It seems like not having to worry about Absorb or Spark might make up for the increased healing you'd have to do.

I think it would have been much harder if I'd used Silence (which I don't have anyway). You can see how hard Yuki was hitting me when Weakened. Double that, and add some for crits, and it would have been very painful. And since I got most of my Sparks for free, what's to worry about?
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Feb 2 2010, 17:03) *
And since I got most of my Sparks for free, what's to worry about?


Oh yeah, I forgot you were doing it as a mage. Channeling rocks.
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QUOTE(cmal @ Feb 2 2010, 16:40) *

QUOTE(dap00 @ Feb 2 2010, 16:21) *

Probably a dumb question.

Is there a reason why Skuld, Urd, Verdandi, and Yggdrasil (b.k.a. The Trio and The Tree) haven't been added to the Wiki Bestiary? I'd do it, but I don't want to risk screwing up the neat tables and everything. Plus I'm not sure if they'd be squished into Legendaries or Gods, or if they'd get their own little table (Goddesses?).

They've got a table set up in the Talk page, it just hasn't been added to the main article yet.

It doesn't help that the people who update the wiki are not the ones who have fought them.
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Feb 2 2010, 17:40) *

It doesn't help that the people who update the wiki are not the ones who have fought them.


Well, I'm not suggesting that it be an instant, fully fleshed out update or anything all at once. As far as I know, only three people have fought them at this point. I was just curious, since all we had on the Gods for a while was their names and an attack or two, and these three (well, four) didn't even have that.

But I see the table in progress, so I'll shut up now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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Holy crap...I wish my stats were good enough that I could take on a LEGENDARY...but sadly they are not.

And besides, I'm only LEVEL 32.
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All boss monsters challange clear !

Dalek down !
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Item : 1 greater health potion, 2 average mana draught, 2 greater mana potion, 2 average spirit draught(only use 1 average mana draught, and 1 mana potion)
strategy : just like with another boss monsters, use weaken and bewilder firstly. use regen when in middle battle(if necessary). forget bring a scroll of gods cuz use an ethereal weapon again.
time for beat the last boss monster, ManBearPig

ManBearPig Down !
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according from all boss monsters that I was beaten and info from here, only ManBearPig that make me have a long battle for beat him.
Item : 1 greater health potion, 1 average health mana draught and potion, 1 greater mana potion, 1 average and greater spirit draught, 1 infusion of flames.(use : 1 greater health potion, 1 average health mana draught , 1 greater mana potion, 1 average spirit draught, 1 infusion of flames)
strategy : use weaken, bewilder, and shield firstly, and use a infusion of flames for attack(half effective). until middle of battle(50 turns) still in flame mode, and finish with 1 spirit attack, and an ethereal weapon attack.

now need more token of bloods, and an equipments for prepare the legendary monsters(still far).

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Yuki Nagato down in first try (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Yuki Nagato: lvl 82 with 69615 HP
Mine: lvl 84, 1792 HP, full cloth, 49% Dark Mitigation

Item used: 2 Mana Elixir, 3 Godly Mana Potion

Strategy: haste in auto slot, keep using weaken, bewilder, poison, PA + purge.
Stoic Staredown hit around 400 dmg, 2 shot.
Data Rewrite hit 900 dmg (thank to 3 pieces of spirit-ward armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ), 2 shot landed.


Ryouko Asakura also down in second try

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Yuki Nagato down in first try (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


What that guy said.
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Items Used: 2 Mana Elixirs, 1 Scroll of the Gods, 1 Infusion of Divinity

Lately I'm noticing a pattern: these fights are a lot easier when the Spirit Attacks don't hit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Highlights:
7 3 Stoic Staredown hits you for 607 soul damage. (with Bewilder, and the next hit was even lower)

51 5 You evade the attack from Yuki Nagato.
51 4 Yuki Nagato casts Data Rewrite

(this struck me as funny for some reason)
21 3 You counter Yuki Nagato for 19 points of piercing damage.
21 2 You block the attack from Yuki Nagato.
21 1 You hit Yuki Nagato for 15 piercing damage.

(this, moreso)
113 5 You counter Yuki Nagato for 128 points of piercing damage. (with PA)

Hard to believe Real Life is next on the hit list. Not that I'll be doing that anytime soon.
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