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Tenseigamoon, do l legendaries heal?


Instead of taking em out one by one, you could try beating each of them to the brink of death and then taking them out, before their powerups can last very long.

This would mean you take their full damage the entire time... which is probably going to make this plan a lot less usefull.

Just how hard the lesser legendaries are in Ring of Blood? so I can kill with no problem any legendary in item world (except for a mithra once, but I was using a 2h sword) but I dont know how much harder they get in RoB.

Just asking because I will get to level 50 "soon" and wanted to know if I should wait or just give it a try.

We don't even really call Mithra, Manbearpig, Dalek, and White Bunneh legendaries, just bosses. When you fight a legendary, you'll know it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I don't think there's a huge difference in where you fight the bosses, so long as you come prepared. I'm tempted to say as long as you have a rapier with PA, Weaken, maybe a Scroll of Life, and something to restore spirit, you'll be fine. But if you can beat them in IW, you should have some idea of what to expect.

And, uh, don't use a 2H weapon on a boss. Well, you can, but I don't see any reason why you should. You're limiting your parry, and dealing with low accuracy. On top of that, you'll probably have too much burden by the time you factor in armor, and you don't want a boss hitting you more than once per turn if you can prevent it.

We don't even really call Mithra, Manbearpig, Dalek, and White Bunneh legendaries, just bosses. When you fight a legendary, you'll know it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I don't think there's a huge difference in where you fight the bosses, so long as you come prepared. I'm tempted to say as long as you have a rapier with PA, Weaken, maybe a Scroll of Life, and something to restore spirit, you'll be fine. But if you can beat them in IW, you should have some idea of what to expect.

And, uh, don't use a 2H weapon on a boss. Well, you can, but I don't see any reason why you should. You're limiting your parry, and dealing with low accuracy. On top of that, you'll probably have too much burden by the time you factor in armor, and you don't want a boss hitting you more than once per turn if you can prevent it.

IW Bosses are pansies compared to their Arena versions, depending on where you fight them. I've killed two or three in the same IW a couple of times already.

2H is okay for bosses if you've got a good one. I accidentally cleared Endgame once with my Zankantou. Had to cast Cure/Regen more often and ended up casting SV and Haste earlier than usual, but it wasn't that bad.

I accidentally cleared Endgame once with my Zankantou.

mmm... Katana? As I don't remember ever seing that "Zankantou" kind of weapon, ever.

Well, then theres finding bosses on grindfest. Only boss I found there was about twice as strong as those I found on IW.

IW Bosses are pansies compared to their Arena versions, depending on where you fight them. I've killed two or three in the same IW a couple of times already.

I tend to only run into IW bosses on Average weapons or higher, and at the worst possible times: if I have a staff, or I have the difficulty up a bit too high. Yesterday I got Manbearpig on Hard in the first round, fortunately I had a rapier. The only real danger was the occasional double hit (at least, when one of those hits was Global Warming), and for me at least, the longer the fight, the more likely I am to make a mistake somewhere. So while I agree that bosses are easier in IW, I try not to underestimate them, since I know a good crit works wonders... on us. Also, I tend to mix up the symbols for Bewilder and Poison for some reason, which has gotten me into trouble a few times.

I can't speak for grindfest bosses, I don't normally grind on a high enough difficulty to encounter them. That's more because when I am grinding, I'm doing it for easy credits and spell spamming. And with my luck I'd only meet a boss when I was on my last legs, anyway.

OK, I tried Trio again. This time I took out Yaggledraggle first and then killed Urd and got halfway through Verdandi before I was defeated.

I ran out of items and my HP and MP dwindled down and eventually ran out. This shit's costing me thousands and thousands of credits in Mana Elixirs, but I'm getting closer.


EDIT: It's a few days later now and I tried it again. This time I got halfway through the last one. Won't be long now!!!

This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Jan 6 2010, 00:00

467 2 Real Life has been defeated.
467 1 You unleash Boo! on Real Life for 6119 soul damage.
466 10 Regen restores you with 80 points of health.
466 9 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 177 damage.
466 8 You block the attack from Real Life.
466 7 Real Life casts Internet Shutdown

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Defeated using PA+Soul spells. It only took me 5 attempts...

1. I had a go as soon as I reached level 100. It was a complete waste of time, except as an information gathering exercise. After using half of my Mana Elixirs he was still at about 70% health. I ran away.

2. I trained a second level of Pack Rat, found a higher block shield, bemoaned the lack of any decent Soul mitigating armour, spammed my Soul spells to build my proficiency and went in with two Last Elixirs so I could use some spirit attacks. At the half way point it was clear I was a lot closer to beating him, but it wasn't going to happen that day. I ran away again.

2a. I tried it with a high bleed axe to see if that would make a difference. It did - it made things worse. Clearly the bleed didn't make up for the loss of Poison damage. More running away.

3. Time to get serious. I brought my Forbidden prof up to 80 or so, then reset my abilities. I ditched everything that wouldn't be useful against this one opponent (elemental spells and Sleep mainly), kept Soul (obviously) and Holy (for Cure, though I don't know if it helped much), acquired more deprecating spells (Haste, Slow and Shadow Veil), built up Magic Tank and Spirit Tank and put whatever was left into OC Boost.

It still wasn't enough. Although Haste was quite useful, in that it made the battle easier to manage, I don't think it actually made much difference to the outcome. (Adding Slow on top of that made things easier still, but again didn't seem to save me any mana overall. I didn't use Shadow Veil, having already worked out that it was a waste of time in comparison.) The deciding factor seemed to be the amount of damage I was able to do per offensive spell, coupled with the total amount of mana available. This time I kept going to the bitter end even though it meant using my last Last Elixirs, because I needed to know just how much more work I had to do. After using up all my mana and firing off about three spirit attacks, his health bar was down to 11 out of 120 pixels. So...

4. Time to get really serious. I trained another item slot, thus spending twice as many credits as I would get if I won. I pushed my Forbidden prof up to 100 (not quite as hard as it sounds, since I was left doing my arenas with only Holy and Soul spells). I got Scroll Slot I. I got a load more Last Elixirs, luckily most at reduced prices or in exchange for other items. Finally, I felt I was ready.

My strategy: Nothing very complicated. All the usual things, like using Haste, Weaken and Poison, and casting Soul spells when PA was in effect. I took 6 Last Elixirs, 4 Mana Elixirs and a Scroll of the Gods - basically as many Last Elixirs as I thought I could get the full benefit of, then add two just in case - and used all of them. The Scroll allowed me to launch two spirit attacks in safety while his spirit bar was full, and I got in one or two more when it was charging. It looked like it was going to be a little tight at one point, so I had to risk taking a Last Elixir, using my spirit attack, and rendering Spark of Life ineffective for three (or is it two?) turns. Well, it wasn't a big risk, since I had Absorb up, he doesn't use his spirit attack much, and it wouldn't necessarily hit me anyway... Spark did trigger once though. I'm pretty sure I could have finished him off without using "Boo!", but it was so satisfying to be able to use it to deal the death blow...


So, Real Life can be beaten at level 111, possibly lower, without an Ethereal weapon, but it's bloody hard work. Without a doubt it's the most effort I ever put into acquiring a T-shirt. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to admire it for a while.

467 2 Real Life has been defeated.

So, Real Life can be beaten at level 111, possibly lower, without an Ethereal weapon, but it's bloody hard work. Without a doubt it's the most effort I ever put into acquiring a T-shirt. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to admire it for a while.

Congrats on that, Sayo! I think that's three of us now who defeated Real Life without an Ethereal. First was me, then Boggy and now you. Hell yeah, it's tough but what a feeling when you finally get that T-Shirt.

Also: I finally cleared Trio and I'm a Godslayer!!! I posted it in the Highest Level Achieved thread.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=585855

Where's Hito? He needs to give me a massage and feed me grapes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Jan 7 2010, 22:43

467 2 Real Life has been defeated.

So, Real Life can be beaten at level 111, possibly lower, without an Ethereal weapon, but it's bloody hard work. Without a doubt it's the most effort I ever put into acquiring a T-shirt. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to admire it for a while.

Congratulations for the victory and enjoy the deserved T-shirt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
but i'm curious, what was your stats and equipment that you had in that fight?
and about your strategic why not use a scroll of gaia (for saving up MP on those soul spells, and getting more soul attacks at least for 50 turns) on the beginning?

but i'm curious, what was your stats and equipment that you had in that fight?
and about your strategic why not use a scroll of gaia (for saving up MP on those soul spells, and getting more soul attacks at least for 50 turns) on the beginning?

I'm quite curious about these things, too, having just hit lvl 100 myself.

Specifically, has any mage found that the infusions make a significant enough difference in their magical attack strength to be worth an item slot?

Congratulations for the victory and enjoy the deserved T-shirt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
but i'm curious, what was your stats and equipment that you had in that fight?
and about your strategic why not use a scroll of gaia (for saving up MP on those soul spells, and getting more soul attacks at least for 50 turns) on the beginning?

You had me thinking about that one for at least half a minute there, before I realised that wouldn't work. It's an infusion, not a scroll. You can't put it in the Scroll slot.

My stats are about equal, with END and WIS a little higher than the rest. That's how I always have them. I really don't know if it was an ideal combination against RL, but it would have been too much trouble to change things around. I mentioned my abilities already. Equipment: the most useful items were probably this rapier and this high block, low interference shield. As for my armour, I had one light piece and the rest cloth to keep my interference low. I tried to choose pieces to maximise my physical defence (I think I used one or two of my sale items), but it didn't really make a lot of difference. I basically ignored magical absorption/mitigation, since there's no way to mitigate Internet Shutdown. If it hits, you're dead.

You had me thinking about that one for at least half a minute there, before I realised that wouldn't work. It's an infusion, not a scroll. You can't put it in the Scroll slot.

you right, my fault (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif), but i was thinking as infusion anyway,i only thought in that because you said that you used 2 last elixirs as backup, oh and wiki is wrong because the infusion only lasts 25 turns not 50 so it's more useless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

rapier[/url] and this high block, low interference shield. As for my armour, I had one light piece and the rest cloth to keep my interference low. I tried to choose pieces to maximise my physical defence (I think I used one or two of my sale items), but it didn't really make a lot of difference. I basically ignored magical absorption/mitigation, since there's no way to mitigate Internet Shutdown. If it hits, you're dead.

well i wanted to see your real stats, with the bonus stats to see if was +- equal to mine, because saw someone with +-20 STR and other stats not must less inferior somewhere and mine are patetic compared to that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
so you are a mage without the staff, so for me to beat real life 1 day (only 2 bosses killed in RoB so there's still a long way for me) without a ethereal weapon will be kinda hardest since i'm a melee tanker (STR+ END+ and INT-, well a least that's that i intended to have when i reached l100)

for the equipment you maximised your physical defence regardless your magic defence but you could used a heavy piece instead the light piece since you could afford it?(you had 12,73 interference in your WS so you had 12,27 points to spare in a chainmail without counting with proficiency of course) that would give more physical defence probably more END points, and losing 10 points in burden doesn't seem to be important).
To me shielding aura types probably will be a must!

thanks for the information and a little k+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

you right, my fault (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif), but i was thinking as infusion anyway,i only thought in that because you said that you used 2 last elixirs as backup, oh and wiki is wrong because the infusion only lasts 25 turns not 50 so it's more useless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

The wiki is right. It's the tooltip that's wrong.

well i wanted to see your real stats, with the bonus stats to see if was +- equal to mine, because saw someone with +-20 STR and other stats not must less inferior somewhere and mine are patetic compared to that

Here they are. I think I remembered to use all the same equipment.

for the equipment you maximised your physical defence regardless your magic defence but you could used a heavy piece instead the light piece since you could afford it?(you had 12,73 interference in your WS so you had 12,27 points to spare in a chainmail without counting with proficiency of course) that would give more physical defence probably more END points, and losing 10 points in burden doesn't seem to be important).
To me shielding aura types probably will be a must!

My light piece was this, and I was wearing it more for the resist chance than anything else. I don't have any heavy armour for that slot with interference below 20. Besides, heavy armour isn't necessarily that much better in this situation. All the damage type mitigations are useless, and it has no evade, and when you're taking hits that do 300 damage each point of evade and mitigation is worth 3 times as much as absorption.

Shielding Aura armour would be nice, but none of it is any good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The wiki is right. It's the tooltip that's wrong.

ok so if the tooltip is wrong then Tenb actually increased the duration thats good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My light piece was this, and I was wearing it more for the resist chance than anything else. I don't have any heavy armour for that slot with interference below 20. Besides, heavy armour isn't necessarily that much better in this situation. All the damage type mitigations are useless, and it has no evade, and when you're taking hits that do 300 damage each point of evade and mitigation is worth 3 times as much as absorption.

that's for picture and explanation, now i understand why only 3 guys beat RL without a ethereal weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
as a melee i have to kill him faster to survive and that may be impossible (unless for hito of course) but still i want to try and see.
well thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


PS:the trophy should be a Divine T-shirt not a Black T-shirt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 10 2010, 05:01

PS:the trophy should be a Divine T-shirt not a Black T-shirt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Only Belldandy would give you a divine T-shirt. With Real Life, you'll be lucky if the shirt fits, doesn't smell like armpit, and stays in one piece after you wash it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I just reached level 50 and happen to have 1 token of blood.

Should I challenge a boss in the ROB or wait till I get stronger? Im afraid I will waste that token if the boss is as strong as monsters in arena challenges.

They are as strong, but I beat all of them at Lv. 51. Weaken works great, plus PA and spirit attacks will make short work of them. If you want you can use a scroll of the avatar or its component scrolls to give you an extra edge.

This post has been edited by Cronauron: Jan 11 2010, 06:25

Ah, so I guess now its that time when I must get weaken

Question for Tens (I'd PM you but you are either blocking pms from me, from everyone, or your inbox is full):
Have you managed to beat the IPU without an ethereal weapon? I'll try at 150, but it would be nice to know if the trail has been blazed. I'll do it regardless because I'm not stooping to borrowing eth weapons from people.