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post Dec 23 2009, 08:55
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Real Life has been Defeated.

364 11 You gain 51149 Credits!
364 10 You gain 15174.03 EXP!
364 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
364 8 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
364 7 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Mana Potion]
364 6 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
364 5 You are Victorious!
364 4 Regen restores you with 103 points of health.
364 3 Real Life has been defeated.
364 2 Soul Harvest blasts Real Life for 991 soul damage.
364 1 You cast Soul Harvest.

I used PA+ Poison + Soul Harvest
It took 6 mana elixirs, 2 spirit elixirs, a final elixir, and a scroll of avatar. (I had a mana elixir and a Infusion of Gaia leftover)
I managed to dodge his legendary at least 3 times.
I think spark triggered twice.
I kept him weakened all time. I had Shadow Veil up at all times (I forgot to set it to my auto-cast bar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ). Arcane Meditation had to be cast twice.
I hit him with my spirit attack 3 times, doing about 11,000 damage each time which is not much, but got the job done.

Some stats:
Avoidance
+32.3 % evade
+0 % block
+37.8 % parry
+13.9 % resist
Compromise
8.1 interference
26.5 burden

Primary attributes (my others are 131. Included because my INT is not absurdly low.)
Int- 130- +10- +2
Wis- 132- +17- +0

Forbidden Prof- 58.20

If anyone has questions, feel free to ask them.

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post Dec 23 2009, 09:44
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Dec 22 2009, 12:09) *

Come to think of it, has anyone beaten Real Life without an eth weapon? You know, I really don't feel like being the person to blaze that trail, beating a Godly only using magic.

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If it has not been done before, it has been done now. So, tell me, was I the first?

I beat Real Life without an Ethereal weapon. I posted it in the Token of Blood thread.

But congrats on your victory. Real Life is a bitch.

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post Dec 23 2009, 15:42
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Dec 22 2009, 22:55) *

Real Life has been Defeated.


Freaking' GRATS dude! I'm so glad that the PA + Poison + Soul Harvest method worked. I'm feeling really pumped for level 100 now, so I can try it too.
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post Dec 23 2009, 16:49
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Dec 23 2009, 06:55) *

Real Life has been Defeated.

Congratulations. It's good to know that method actually works.

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If anyone has questions, feel free to ask them.

I'm interested in your choice of weapons. Is there any particular reason why you went with DW rather than 1H, and what did you have in the off hand?

More importantly, I'd like to know if you made the best possible use of your items. Did you have sufficient points in Magic Tank and Spirit Tank so that no part of those Elixirs went to waste? Was it worth using Spirit Elixirs, or would Mana Elixirs actually allow you to do more damage in the long run? How hard is it to get the timing right for using a Last Elixir?
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post Dec 23 2009, 19:14
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 23 2009, 06:49) *

Congratulations. It's good to know that method actually works.

It works in the sense that I beat him. It does not work in the sense of not being insanely hard and a serious gamble.

QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 23 2009, 06:49) *

I'm interested in your choice of weapons. Is there any particular reason why you went with DW rather than 1H, and what did you have in the off hand?

I went DW for 1 reason: I don't have a single shield. This was my off-hand weapon. I could also make an argument that lower interference for a dagger versus a shield and thus doing more damage with Soul Harvest more than makes up for the loss of defense, but that would be after the fact because I did not have a shield.

QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 23 2009, 06:49) *

More importantly, I'd like to know if you made the best possible use of your items. Did you have sufficient points in Magic Tank and Spirit Tank so that no part of those Elixirs went to waste?

I have 36 points in each, so I got the full effect.

QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 23 2009, 06:49) *

How hard is it to get the timing right for using a Last Elixir?

It was incredibly easy. I had about 800 HP (out of 3200), about 60 MP, and 0 SP because I used my Spirit attack. If you wonder why I was willing to gamble and put myself at such a risk (mainly because my Spark would not trigger and it would take 2 turns for me to get enough SP), it was because Real Life had just hit me with his Spirit attack, so I was not worried about being killed in one hit.

QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 23 2009, 06:49) *

Was it worth using Spirit Elixirs, or would Mana Elixirs actually allow you to do more damage in the long run?

Now that is the $64,000 question. I'd say you are probably better off with Mana Elixirs though I might keep a single Spirit Elixir on hand in case Spark keeps triggering. I think my Spirit attack did the equivalent of 11 hits with Soul Harvest and that is with a 190% Overcharge. With a Mana Elixir, I bet I could get in 13-15 hits of Soul Harvest. Of course, there is value in shortening the battle which using my spirit allowed me to do, but I wouldn't say that it is absolutely worth the trade off. If you don't have the excess AP to have that much invested in Overcharge and Tanks, then you are clearly better off with Mana Elixirs.

QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 23 2009, 05:42) *

I'm feeling really pumped for level 100 now, so I can try it too.

The question is how much of an effect Arcane Meditation had on my battle. I'm not the greatest mage, so it might be possible to make up for the difference else wise, but I know I couldn't beat it without it.

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post Dec 23 2009, 20:02
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Well, I beat Konata. Not gonna do that again any time soon (can't anyway, no tokens...)

Items: 2 Scrolls of the Gods, 2 Spirit Elixirs, and probably 2 Superior Mana Draughts

Weapons: Average Platinum Rapier of Balance (20% 3-turn PA, thanks Sayo!) and Superior Prism Dagger of the Nimble (some bleed, but not enough to mention)

It wasn't insanely hard, just long and frustrating. But I did find out some things:

1) My regular attacks = 20 dmg (200+ with PA). My Hurricane with PA: 1300+ dmg. My Spirit Attack with PA: 3500-6000+ dmg. I REALLY wish we could hold a rapier and a staff at the same time... with a dagger in our teeth.
2) Full Poison with PA up = 90-107 dmg. I guess my dep. prof is to blame...
3) Absorb kicked in 2 or 3 times. I can see how it would be useful, if it worked that well all the time.
4) Once I ran out of Spirit, she was weak enough (6000+ HP...) where I just Hurricane'd her down.

Now I'm going to go sit in a corner and pretend I didn't almost get beat down by a girl half my size... again.

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I know that "Infinity" reading isn't right, but it's kinda creepy every time I see it... especially in this case.
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post Dec 23 2009, 20:21
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QUOTE(uth @ Dec 21 2009, 21:49) *

I'm pretty sure that everyone that has beaten IPU used an ethereal weapon, I don't think anyone has even tried it without one, but he is darkness weak if I remember correctly... not that it helps you since you don't get that spell till 150.

The dark spells are based off Forbidden prof, right? I might as well keep spamming Soul Reaper to get it even more up to snuff in case I don't find an eth weapon in the next 20 levels...
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post Dec 24 2009, 00:14
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Dec 23 2009, 09:14) *
The question is how much of an effect Arcane Meditation had on my battle. I'm not the greatest mage, so it might be possible to make up for the difference else wise, but I know I couldn't beat it without it.


Hmm, good point. I had forgotten about Arcane Meditation. Here's hoping that I can at least make a decent go at RL without it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).


QUOTE(dap00 @ Dec 23 2009, 10:02) *

Well, I beat Konata. Not gonna do that again any time soon (can't anyway, no tokens...)

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1) My regular attacks = 20 dmg (200+ with PA). My Hurricane with PA: 1300+ dmg. My Spirit Attack with PA: 3500-6000+ dmg. I REALLY wish we could hold a rapier and a staff at the same time... with a dagger in our teeth.
2) Full Poison with PA up = 90-107 dmg. I guess my dep. prof is to blame...
3) Absorb kicked in 2 or 3 times. I can see how it would be useful, if it worked that well all the time.
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I know that "Infinity" reading isn't right, but it's kinda creepy every time I see it... especially in this case.


Grats on beating Konata!

2) That's just a little less damage that poison does for me, so you're doing well enough. Maybe try using Weaken and Bewsilder on minibosses in arena more often? That's how I keep my dep prof above Montage cap.

3) Sadly, the Absorb Scroll is a lot better than the spell. It's got a 100% success rate on draining the next spell that hits you (doesn't catch crits, though), while the spell Absorb only has a 75% chance (with 5 AP). But the spell is still quite good, especially since it restores much of it's own mana cost when it triggers.

Infinity) I've never seen this myself. I'd like to fix the bug, but I'm not sure how to recreate it. When do you tend to see "Infinity/xxx" monster HP like that?

1) Like this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:39
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 23 2009, 14:14) *

Infinity) I've never seen this myself. I'd like to fix the bug, but I'm not sure how to recreate it. When do you tend to see "Infinity/xxx" monster HP like that?


It's random, from what I can tell. That's been going on since the days of the original BattleBuddy. But it generally fixes itself with the next screen refresh. Well, I think it (or something similar) happened a lot more often, right around the time Tenboro made a cut-off point for the battle log, and BB/BBE had to be adapted to account for that. The monster stats got lost as the battle progressed, and BB wouldn't know what to put in for them, so it would be "Infinity/Infinity" for all the monsters. I think. I actually used to have a screencap of it, but it may be gone now.
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post Dec 26 2009, 15:15
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Fucking ridiculas...

WHY WAS KONATA SO EASY AND I"M GETTING RAPED HERE
BAWWWWWW


Edit: SHIT!!! Forgot weaken, bewilder and poison!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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post Dec 26 2009, 15:45
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QUOTE(nick321 @ Dec 26 2009, 05:15) *

Edit: SHIT!!! Forgot weaken, bewilder and poison!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Yep, that would do it all right. Also, Mikuru is a noticeably harder fight than Konata, even when you do properly debuff her. Good luck on your next attempt, I guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 28 2009, 20:43
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Uggghhhh, these are in the last round of The Trio and the Tree arena challenge.

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/HV_+Trio+monsters_818395744.jpg)

What the fuck are those? I killed off that top one no problem but the others got me. Freakin' Swedish meatballs or some shit.

Anyway, now I know what I'm up against the next time I try it out. I really had no idea this is what I'd get at the end.
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post Dec 28 2009, 21:04
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...Y'know, there was some big talk about that four Gods when hito first defeated them. They cast supportives on remaining mobs when one of them dies, right?
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Dec 29 2009, 02:43) *

Uggghhhh, these are in the last round of The Trio and the Tree arena challenge.

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/HV_%20Trio%20monsters_818395744.jpg)

What the fuck are those? I killed off that top one no problem but the others got me. Freakin' Swedish meatballs or some shit.

Anyway, now I know what I'm up against the next time I try it out. I really had no idea this is what I'd get at the end.


LoL,the three goddesses of fate and the tree of the world.
Good luck next time,mate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 28 2009, 22:19
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Dec 28 2009, 10:43) *

Uggghhhh, these are in the last round of The Trio and the Tree arena challenge.


The first clue I got was when they mysteriously showed up in BBE's Kill Tally. I actually thought it was a mistake, until I checked the Arena Wiki. I still don't actually know anything about them, other than I don't want to fight them...
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Dec 28 2009, 13:43) *

Uggghhhh, these are in the last round of The Trio and the Tree arena challenge.

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/HV_%20Trio%20monsters_818395744.jpg)

What the fuck are those? I killed off that top one no problem but the others got me. Freakin' Swedish meatballs or some shit.

Anyway, now I know what I'm up against the next time I try it out. I really had no idea this is what I'd get at the end.

I know Hito mentioned what they all do and the strat to kill off the healer first, when he killed them the first time.....Think its in the Highest Level achieved thread.
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[en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns

or closer to hentai, [en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess!
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post Dec 29 2009, 02:09
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QUOTE(prot0mega @ Dec 28 2009, 11:12) *

LoL,the three goddesses of fate and the tree of the world.
Good luck next time,mate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Dlaglacz @ Dec 28 2009, 14:39) *

[en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns

or closer to hentai, [en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess!


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QUOTE(uth @ Dec 28 2009, 13:57) *

I know Hito mentioned what they all do and the strat to kill off the healer first, when he killed them the first time.....Think its in the Highest Level achieved thread.

I posted about the Trio in that thread, too, so maybe he'll see it there if he doesn't see it here and give me some pointers.

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Double post because look at this.

This was my second attempt. I killed the first one again and then these green things popped up next to the others.

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/HV_Trio%202cropped%201-1-10_990077613.jpg)


And this is what it said they were.

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/HV_Trio%202cropped%20Lamentations%201-1-10_142477322.jpg)

WTF?!

Anyway, I didn't clear it. I don't understand how I'm supposed to beat these.


EDIT: OK, I found Hito's post about Trio when he cleared it. Except Tenb changed things around since then and I don't have any special equipment like Hito does. Sucks.

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post Jan 2 2010, 18:17
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Just how hard the lesser legendaries are in Ring of Blood? so I can kill with no problem any legendary in item world (except for a mithra once, but I was using a 2h sword) but I dont know how much harder they get in RoB.

Just asking because I will get to level 50 "soon" and wanted to know if I should wait or just give it a try.
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