[X] My Assistant

KONATA DOWN!


I started the battle with a Scroll of the Gods, and used 3 Superior Mana Draughts (which could have probably been Averages since I ended with half MP, but I came as prepared as I could be), a godly Spirit Draught, an Infusion of Gaea, and a second Scroll of the Gods when the first spark expired, just in case Petanko Smash crit (which I just realized was a waste, since Weaken prevents physical attacks from critting).

I kept Weaken, Bewilder, and Poison up at all times. Poison was dealing 110+ per tick when applied during PA. My spirit attacks dealt ~6000 with PA up, out of her ~35000 HP. The Infusion of Gaea was awesome. It doubled my damage for 50 turns, since Konata is weak to soul. Sadly, without PA up that was still just 40 damage per attack, so I don't think using a Gaea infusion is equivalent to having an ethereal weapon.

Petanko Smash was hitting me for 820ish damage, but my 1412 HP easily took care of that (and she only used it 4 times, 1 of which missed). Timotei was hitting for ~350 since I had her Bewildered.

Time to try for Mikuru!

I had a similarly easy time being Konata. I'm not sure why, but the jump to Mikuru was a little more steep, so watch yourself.

I had a similarly easy time being Konata. I'm not sure why, but the jump to Mikuru was a little more steep, so watch yourself.

Back when Sayo first beat these girls, he mentioned that Time Quake hit for twice his HP. Is it still that deadly? I need to know how many Scroll of the Gods to bring so I can have enough instances of Spark to survive each Time Quake, if they end up being necessary.
Nevermind; Time Quake seems to have been heavily nerfed, as it dealt me only ~1000 damage.

I'm wondering about how best to prepare for Ryouko and Yuki, though. Since they take almost no damage from melee attacks, I'm not sure what to do without an ethereal weapon.

This post has been edited by coredumperror: Dec 13 2009, 09:51

The Infusion of Gaea was awesome. It doubled my damage for 50 turns, since Konata is weak to soul. Sadly, without PA up that was still just 40 damage per attack, so I don't think using a Gaea infusion is equivalent to having an ethereal weapon.

Hate to tell you this, but if you read some of the other posts in this thread it seems that even ethereal weapons do pretty poor amounts of damage.

Time Quake seems to have been heavily nerfed, as it dealt me only ~1000 damage.

Maybe, maybe not. I had no points in Health Tank, and you obviously have quite a lot. I probably had about 850HP when I was at your level.

I'm wondering about how best to prepare for Ryouko and Yuki, though. Since they take almost no damage from melee attacks, I'm not sure what to do without an ethereal weapon.

See this thread for suggestions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Hate to tell you this, but if you read some of the other posts in this thread it seems that even ethereal weapons do pretty poor amounts of damage.

Well pretty poor compared to attacks against normal monsters, but its still better then hitting for 1. Using an infusion of gaia is useful if you have the inventory to carry enough for the entire fight. It lets you use weapons with better stats then any ethereal weapon, and still do decent dmg, probably more then you would have if you switched to an ethereal.

See this thread for suggestions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The suggestions I've seen in this thread include "use an ethereal rapier with PA," "bring a high bleed axe" and "use PA +Holy spells." The best Axe I've got, in terms of bleed, is actually one I got just after my most recent post on this thread (I'm not sure if it's any good, though). And I just picked up Condemn for the first time with my AP from lvl 76, so I'm working on raising my Divine prof. Is there any way, besides investing in Purge, to reduce the cost of Condemn? Spending 7 mana every turn eats through my MP really fast.

Well, there's Coalesced Mana, or better still, Channeling. So, basically... no, there isn't.

Random thought: Since Ryouko and Yuki are weak against Holy, would an Infusion of Divinity work better than an Infusion of Gaia? Anyone tried it?

Well, there's Coalesced Mana, or better still, Channeling. So, basically... no, there isn't.

Random thought: Since Ryouko and Yuki are weak against Holy, would an Infusion of Divinity work better than an Infusion of Gaia? Anyone tried it?

I'd hardly call them holy weak, its more like they just aren't resistant. So I doubt it would do more dmg then a gaia.

The suggestions I've seen in this thread include "use an ethereal rapier with PA,"

Pretty sure there are less than 5 of these out there.

"bring a high bleed axe" ... The best Axe I've got, in terms of bleed, is actually one I got...

That's not enough bleed.

@ coredumperror: You should chase down one of those people that always snatch up the 200+ bleed axes. Like me... uh... someone else... yeah. hito might have one or ten thousand in his junk pile. Scratch that, he actually has some 300+ bleed Prisms in stock now. It would be a long time before you got the full benefit, but still.

Edit: Actually, I might go back and get one myself... forget I said anything.

This post has been edited by dap00: Dec 14 2009, 11:56

I had some Tokens to spare, so I tried out the differerent Infusions on Ryouko. Divinity made my physical attacks do about 25% more more damage than Gaia, but Gaia lasts twice as long (it says 25 turns, but it's actually 50). The amount of damage was only significant with PA in effect, though.

@ coredumperror: You should chase down one of those people that always snatch up the 200+ bleed axes. Like me... uh... someone else... yeah. hito might have one or ten thousand in his junk pile. Scratch that, he actually has some 300+ bleed Prisms in stock now. It would be a long time before you got the full benefit, but still.

Edit: Actually, I might go back and get one myself... forget I said anything.

Sadly, at my level, Hito's best bleed axe is actually worse than the one I linked earlier. Level scaling really rapes bleed ticks, apparently.

I guess I'll be spending the next few days leveling my Divine and Staff Profs, and going for a Mage build for Yuki and Ryouko. I've always wanted to try a mage build, though, so that's ok.

Sadly, at my level, Hito's best bleed axe is actually worse than the one I linked earlier. Level scaling really rapes bleed ticks, apparently.

In that case, you probably would do better looking for a 200 bleed axe right now, since it's less likely to scale as bad. From what I can tell from the few I have, you probably want the level somewhere around 130. At least, the one that gives me the most bleed, with scaling, is an Emerald around there.

I guess I'm not as worried about leveling into half my gear, since I collect tokens so very slowly.

Anyway, good luck with the mage build. I like it myself, but I'm not quite brave enough to try it on a boss without far more evade/defense than I have. And as you can tell, I can't afford to waste tokens...

Thought it was time I tried the legendries

Scroll of the Gods
Bubble-Gum
Scroll of Life
Scroll of the Avatar
Infusion of Gaia
Mana Elixir
Mana Elixir
Spirit Elixir

80 9 You gain 25242 Credits!
80 8 You gain 2829.61 EXP!
80 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
80 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
80 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Health Draught]
80 4 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]

That was easy. Didn't need 1/2 my items.

Thought it was time I tried the legendries

Scroll of the Gods
Bubble-Gum
Scroll of Life
Scroll of the Avatar
Infusion of Gaia
Mana Elixir
Mana Elixir
Spirit Elixir

80 9 You gain 25242 Credits!
80 8 You gain 2829.61 EXP!
80 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
80 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
80 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Health Draught]
80 4 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]

That was easy. Didn't need 1/2 my items.

konata is far and away the easiest of the legendaries, really (s)he's pretty much a boss with more HP, everything after that has a significant defensive increase to go along with the more HP. You can actually beat Konata fairly easily even without an ethereal or a high bleed weapon.

konata is far and away the easiest of the legendaries, really (s)he's pretty much a boss with more HP, everything after that has a significant defensive increase to go along with the more HP. You can actually beat Konata fairly easily even without an ethereal or a high bleed weapon.

I beat Konata by DWing a regular 4-turn PA Rapier and a high acc dagger, plus 2 spirit attacks and a bunch of mana draughts. Mikuru was fairly similar, though a significantly harder fight than Konata. I believe it's only Ryokou, Yuki and the gods who have super-high defense that makes regular melee attacks worthless.

This post has been edited by coredumperror: Dec 15 2009, 15:40

(s)he's

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My invasion is coming... Konata's world has been conquered!
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So I managed to defeat Konata using a pure mage build after building up my courage to do so...
Items used:
1 mana elixir
1 Godly health
1 gaia
1 scroll of the gods
1 scroll of the avatar

I'm actually pretty disappointed with the amount of items I used... I probably could have done better if I had poison, weakness, or bewilder at my disposal. Without using these, however, I've found some useful information:

With a scroll of gaia, I was dealing about 1k damage to konata using wind and 500 damage when using soul harvest. Hence it would seem that soul damage seems far less than wind damage to konata (even if I maxed both elemental ratings for each), so future fighters shouldn't rely on soul harvest to defeat her (or future legendaries).

Timotei is really, really weak; With an avatar, I received less than 1/2 damage from it and would have even received less if I had bewilder.

Petanko Smash seems survivable; With a little more health tanking and perhaps weakness, it's damage would probably leave one with 1/9 of total hp, since it hit me and went overboard of about 300 damage (activated my Spark from the scroll).

341 6 You have been defeated.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=21 (Mikuru Asahina) LV=96 HP=81345 MP=104 SP=116 NA=65 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #106 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


Fuck

Got her down to about 5 000HP too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Needs more spirit elixors. And infusion of gaia, I wasn't hitting for nearly enough.

I has an idea.

We have lots of info across several threads about how people have beaten Boss+ monsters. How about we collect together the info on the players, their approximate level range, item/equipment load-outs or build type, and maybe some general comments about their experience of everyone who has killed these monsters in the Arena/Ring together in one thread? That way people can have a quick reference to see what kinds of builds have successfully been used to kill them. The page would be broken down by Bosses (they're about equivalent in strength while the higher categories have some more variance), each Legendary, and each God. Then every person who has a reported kill of each will be listed with the relevant info.

I has an idea.

We have lots of info across several threads about how people have beaten Boss+ monsters. How about we collect together the info on the players, their approximate level range, item/equipment load-outs or build type, and maybe some general comments about their experience of everyone who has killed these monsters in the Arena/Ring together in one thread? That way people can have a quick reference to see what kinds of builds have successfully been used to kill them. The page would be broken down by Bosses (they're about equivalent in strength while the higher categories have some more variance), each Legendary, and each God. Then every person who has a reported kill of each will be listed with the relevant info.

I once killed a boss in 2 hits. The first hit PA'ed him. The second hit was my legendary. Is that info helpful for people? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)