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Nov 25 2009, 02:28
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Lord_Obagon
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195 14 You gain 25747 Credits! 195 13 You gain 1869.45 EXP! 195 12 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 195 11 Arena Token Bonus! Received: [Token of Healing] 195 10 Arena Clear Bonus! Received: [Godly Health Draught] 195 9 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair] 195 8 You are Victorious!
My First Legendary defeated. Now just 3 years till I find 2 more tokens of blood to challenge the next.
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Nov 27 2009, 02:54
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Kir
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Beat Konata for first time at level 75. Konata had 35960 HP and I used spirit attacks on her three times, about 5000 damage each. That was rather a close call, seeing my second scroll's spark of life effect ran out at 204th turn.
Items used: 4 mana elixirs, 2 spirit elixirs and 2 Scrolls of Gods Armors used: 4 light armors and 1 cloth (silk cap) Weapons used: Superior Ruby Rapier and Fine Prism Dagger of Balance. Abilities used: Weaken, Bewilder, Poison, Shadow Veil, and Cure
Two things that really helped me a lot. - My rapier has 16% chance for PA with 6 turns. I was able to deliver about 200 damage each turn with PA effect, whereas normal attack w/o PA effect did 20 damage to Konata. Thanks for this fantastic rapier, Hito. - Used Weaken and Bewilder at same time to avoid massive damages from Konata.
49 3 Spreading Poison hits Konata for 111 damage. 49 2 You evade the attack from Konata. 49 1 You unleash Kir Royale on Konata for 4940 soul damage.
99 6 The effect Refreshment has expired. 99 5 Spreading Poison hits Konata for 112 damage. 99 4 Petanko Smash hits you for 650 elec damage. 99 3 Konata uses Petanko Smash 99 2 Your offhand hits Konata for 181 slashing damage. 99 1 You hit Konata for 211 piercing damage.
214 5 Replenishment restores you with 31 points of magic. 214 4 Petanko Smash hits you for 772 elec damage. 214 3 Konata uses Petanko Smash 214 2 Konata gains the effect Bewildered. 214 1 You cast Bewilder.
Of course, it took all of my items to take her down. I don't think I will be attempting to take on next legendary boss anytime soon until I get better armors and more ability points.
BTW, I got Lock of Blue Hair from Konata, is there any difference of it from 1-token boss's dropped item?
This post has been edited by kir: Nov 27 2009, 02:59
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Nov 27 2009, 03:20
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(kir @ Nov 26 2009, 21:54)  49 1 You unleash Kir Royale on Konata for 4940 soul damage.
OMG! A King of Bandits, Jing fan! QUOTE BTW, I got Lock of Blue Hair from Konata, is there any difference of it from 1-token boss's dropped item? It should have a slightly higher chance of giving you a good item, but don't go expecting anything amazing. My Black Tshirt from Real Life (A lot harder than Konata) only gave me a Fine Shortsword. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 27 2009, 03:21
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Nov 27 2009, 09:06
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Kir
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Nov 27 2009, 03:20)  OMG! A King of Bandits, Jing fan! It should have a slightly higher chance of giving you a good item, but don't go expecting anything amazing. My Black Tshirt from Real Life (A lot harder than Konata) only gave me a Fine Shortsword.
Took my chance and got Average leather Gauntlets of Warding from Snowflake. Oh well, it was worth a try. lol... and yeah, I also brought complete collection of KoB: Jing series: 13 manga volumes and 4 DVD volumes including OVA called Jing in Seventh Heaven. Too bad there aren't any more of this series beyond that.
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Nov 28 2009, 20:17
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Sayo Aisaka
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Back on topic: I beat Yuki. I employed the strategy I should have used against Ryouko - namely, proc PA and zap her with AoE spells targeting her weakness (that's Holy, btw). Items used: 2 Mana Elixirs, 1 Scroll of the Gods, 1 Scroll of Life. Didn't really need the Absorb and Shadow Veil effects of the Scroll of the Gods, and could have substituted 3 or 4 Godly Mana Draughts for those Elixirs (except that I have more Elixirs than Godlies at the moment...). It was so much easier than trying to finish her with one huge spirit attack.
I even had time to test out the effectiveness of all the elemental spells (don't bother - only Holy does significant damage) and experiment with Soul damage:
44 1 You hit Yuki Nagato for 35 soul damage. 43 3 Regen restores you with 59 points of health. 43 2 You gain the effect Child of Gaia. 43 1 You use Infusion of Gaia.
Not very impressive. I wonder if actual Ethereal weapons are as pathetic?
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Nov 28 2009, 21:12
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Nov 28 2009, 15:17)  Back on topic: I beat Yuki. I employed the strategy I should have used against Ryouko - namely, proc PA and zap her with AoE spells targeting her weakness (that's Holy, btw). Items used: 2 Mana Elixirs, 1 Scroll of the Gods, 1 Scroll of Life. Didn't really need the Absorb and Shadow Veil effects of the Scroll of the Gods, and could have substituted 3 or 4 Godly Mana Draughts for those Elixirs (except that I have more Elixirs than Godlies at the moment...). It was so much easier than trying to finish her with one huge spirit attack.
I even had time to test out the effectiveness of all the elemental spells (don't bother - only Holy does significant damage) and experiment with Soul damage:
44 1 You hit Yuki Nagato for 35 soul damage. 43 3 Regen restores you with 59 points of health. 43 2 You gain the effect Child of Gaia. 43 1 You use Infusion of Gaia.
Not very impressive. I wonder if actual Ethereal weapons are as pathetic?
If you use a non-ethereal weapon against her it'll end up doing 1dmg. Even ethereals will do very little unless PA is proc'd (in which case it'll do quite a bit of damage, say, 400-600 instead of 40), so there are really only 2 good methods for melee-ers to fight her. 1. Have an ethereal rapier with a PA proc (fucking rare, so unlikely as hell). 2. Forget the ethereal and use an axe with really high bleed damage and rate, which will ignore her defense when dealing bleed damage. If you think you can use up enough slots with infusions of gaia, and maybe a bubblegum or flowervase, you could use a regular rapier and maybe stand a chance, but I highly doubt it, given how long the infusions last. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Nov 28 2009, 21:13
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Nov 28 2009, 21:17
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Panuru
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Nov 21 2009, 10:16)  Uh, might I ask if anyone beat the legendary monsters as a pure mage type? I haven't tried the legends yet, but I've beat the bosses using a pure mage class; as in, using elemental spells to kill them as well as using a magical stick for a weapon (I had to use scroll of the avatar, one godly mana draught, and an infusion *insert elemental weakness here* though). I was just wondering if this tactic would be possible to redo with the legends, since I've noticed most people use the PA + spirit attack tactic to beat legendaries
It's possible. I ran into Manbearpig during a grindfest yesterday and got it down to half of its life. If I had been carrying around more / better items, I would have had a decent run at it. Yes, the AoE elementals do more damage against the primary target than the single-target elementals. Roughly 3x the damage for 2x the MP. It theoretically has a longer casting time, though. This post has been edited by Panuru: Nov 28 2009, 22:26
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Nov 30 2009, 21:55
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Yunigen
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Nov 28 2009, 21:17)  It's possible. I ran into Manbearpig during a grindfest yesterday and got it down to half of its life. If I had been carrying around more / better items, I would have had a decent run at it.
Actually I was referring to the legendary monsters (e.g. konata); I've defeated 3 of the bosses already (save dalek, since im still getting electricity magic as of now) and can defeat them in both item world (using about 3 greater mana draughts if encountered at the later rounds) and can sometimes defeat them in grindfest (if i encounter them in the start, then I could beat them using only 1 less mana pot and 1 lesser mana draught). Still, I think there has still been no record of anyone (at least posting here) that has defeated a legendary as a pure, staff-wielding mage right? It's probably a harder feat than it is for melee users, considering the observed stats by melee users on the legendaries.
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Dec 7 2009, 07:36
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Jonavrek
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First try on Ring of Blood, Mithra lvl 51 (mine is 55) Item used: only a Scroll of Life and it didn't trigger after all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Forgot to use Poison, just hit it till PA proc and Purge it (Holy rating 7%). When Overcharge (110) bar was filled up, PA + Spirit (50) attack = my win (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Jonavrek: Dec 7 2009, 07:38
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Dec 8 2009, 08:24
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Eutopia
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How did you guys defeat real life, i have a harder time against it then IPU.
My way of doing it atm, weaken+bewilder, bleed, pa+poison repeat.
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Dec 8 2009, 08:58
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uth
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That's pretty much how I do it except add Spark up at all times for the spirit attack, I did it with silence only once but it seemed easier with weaken+bewilder since he doesn't seem to use his spirit attack too often.
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Dec 8 2009, 10:39
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Eutopia
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he seemed to do his spirit attack every 40 turns or so.
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Dec 8 2009, 11:07
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uth
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Dec 8 2009, 03:39)  he seemed to do his spirit attack every 40 turns or so.
It still feels like its less often then the other legendaries, I just did RL a little bit ago had my spark drop off 3 times, I don't cast it till his spirit bar is almost full, and it lasts like 90 turns, although I think 1 time was cause I evaded the spirit attack.
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Dec 8 2009, 13:36
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(uth @ Dec 8 2009, 01:07)  It still feels like its less often then the other legendaries, I just did RL a little bit ago had my spark drop off 3 times, I don't cast it till his spirit bar is almost full, and it lasts like 90 turns, although I think 1 time was cause I evaded the spirit attack.
Are you keeping Poison up on him consistently? Bob has said that Poison reduces the target's MP/SP regen rate by 50%, which could be the difference. I don't see that bit of info recorded anywhere besides his posts, though, so I'm not sure how accurate that is. (and I'd like to know for sure, to update the wiki accurately)
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Dec 8 2009, 21:03
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Eutopia
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That is widely known at least for the 100+ lvl guys.
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Dec 8 2009, 21:42
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uth
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It slows the rates of regen, but even its pretty negligible, probably adds a couple more turns till full spirit bar, I just know that I've fought him before where he only used his spirit attack twice, and Bob even though he was using his mace of epic-stunness, only had him use the spirit attack once. Compared to IPU, who seemed to use it every time he got to full spirit, thats alot less.
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Dec 8 2009, 23:50
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Eutopia
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but vs ipu its silence only, so it doesnt matter really how often he use it.
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Dec 9 2009, 00:00
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uth
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ya, I know I tried it with weaken/bewilder once to see how it was both him and FSM do there spirit attacks alot.
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Dec 9 2009, 09:18
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Second try on Ring of Blood, Dalek lvl 53 (mine is 56) Item used: a Scroll of Life (didn't trigger), Average Mana Potion, Lesser Spirit Potion, Superior Spirit Draught. Poison did 8 dmg per round, his magic (50% of my health) and spirit (35% of my health) attack is not that strong so the "slow the rates of regen" isn't necessary. Just need to keep my health more than 50% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This time I don't have Elect magic (his weakness), so just hit him and 2 spirit attack + PA = my win (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Third try on Ring of Blood, White Bunneh lvl 54 (mine is 56), a closed one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Item used: a Scroll of Life (didn't trigger), Average Spirit Potion, Greater Mana Draught, Average Mana Draught, Average Mana Potion. WB is faster and tougher than 2 previous boss. I usually get double hit, 2 spirit attack (50 SP and 118 overcharge) + PA is not enough to bring him down (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) In the end I ran out of mana and only had 200 HP left. Just 1 magic or spirit attack from WB, I would gone. But luckily that was not happening (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) The lass boss in RoB, Manbearpig lvl 58 (mine is 58) Item used: 1 Scroll of God, 1 Scroll of Avatar Strategy: Poison, hit to proc PA then Meteor, PA + Spirit Attack = my win (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This is the first time I witness the power of Haste spell, so amazing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) And spark of life had saved my ass, Global Warming crits me 1079 fire damage. Wonder why absorb not working (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) This post has been edited by Jonavrek: Dec 11 2009, 20:46
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Dec 13 2009, 06:43
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coredumperror
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KONATA DOWN!  I started the battle with a Scroll of the Gods, and used 3 Superior Mana Draughts (which could have probably been Averages since I ended with half MP, but I came as prepared as I could be), a godly Spirit Draught, an Infusion of Gaea, and a second Scroll of the Gods when the first spark expired, just in case Petanko Smash crit (which I just realized was a waste, since Weaken prevents physical attacks from critting). I kept Weaken, Bewilder, and Poison up at all times. Poison was dealing 110+ per tick when applied during PA. My spirit attacks dealt ~6000 with PA up, out of her ~35000 HP. The Infusion of Gaea was awesome. It doubled my damage for 50 turns, since Konata is weak to soul. Sadly, without PA up that was still just 40 damage per attack, so I don't think using a Gaea infusion is equivalent to having an ethereal weapon. Petanko Smash was hitting me for 820ish damage, but my 1412 HP easily took care of that (and she only used it 4 times, 1 of which missed). Timotei was hitting for ~350 since I had her Bewildered. Time to try for Mikuru!EDIT: MIKURU DOWN!  OMG that was a crapload harder than Konata. I had to blow all of my 3x Scroll of the Gods, 3x Mana Elixir, and 3x Spirit Elixir, and I killed her with only 6 mana and 500 HP left. Thank god 2 of her 3 Time Quakes missed, and she sat at 100% spirit for like 20 turns before her death (the one that got me hit for ~1000). I also made a huge blunder right at the start. After using my first Mana Elixir, I was also ready to use a Spirit Elixir to recharge my Spirit Attack. Unfortunately, I accidentally double-clicked a Mana Elixir instead... while my first one's buff was still active! Considering how close I was to death at the end there, that would have been the difference between success and failure, if I'd had a little worse luck with Time Quakes. Anyway, it's time to move on to Ryouko, but I'm concerned. I don't have an ethereal weapon, so I won't be able to deal noticeable damage to her with melee attacks, right? What should I do to prepare to fight Ryouko?This post has been edited by coredumperror: Dec 13 2009, 09:49
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