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May 26 2011, 16:58
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(marcho @ May 26 2011, 08:37)  Since I'm coming up on it pretty soon... How do the Trio and the Tree bosses compare to other bosses/legendaries?
I don't know how you play so I really can't make an accurate comment. It's not different from Eve of Death. Although to make sure you don't fail your first run, beat it on normal. I think I can pretty much melee it on heroic. I just don't wanna bother. (Eve of Death on heroic is easy.) edit: and when I say melee, I mean a relict of the cold war: full silk fleet set. This post has been edited by Death Grunty: May 26 2011, 17:05
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May 26 2011, 17:05
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marcho
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So, each of the Trio individually are less of a threat than say Yuki?
I have no problem getting through 100 rounds, I just wanted to gauge how prepared I had to be for the special bosses. If it was 4x Yuki I'd have to prepare a bit.
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May 26 2011, 17:10
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Death Grunty
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QUOTE(marcho @ May 26 2011, 09:05)  So, each of the Trio individually are less of a threat than say Yuki?
I have no problem getting through 100 rounds, I just wanted to gauge how prepared I had to be for the special bosses. If it was 4x Yuki I'd have to prepare a bit.
No he meant: All 4 of them together aren't as much of a threat than let's say .. Ryouko.
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May 26 2011, 17:11
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marcho
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Oh my, that sounds... much easier than I expected. This should be a cakewalk then. I can mow down Ryouko/Yuki without using items.
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May 26 2011, 19:40
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(marcho @ May 26 2011, 17:11)  Oh my, that sounds... much easier than I expected. This should be a cakewalk then. I can mow down Ryouko/Yuki without using items.
We are talking about normal now even FSM is easy on normal mode.
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May 26 2011, 19:53
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ May 26 2011, 13:40)  We are talking about normal now even FSM is easy on normal mode.
But tedious as fuck. I don't care how easy something is; if it takes like 500+ attacks to kill it's a pain in the ass. @Marcho: On normal you can tier3 AOE blast them with whatever your best elemental spell is and kill them in a few hits, even with their resistances (don't forget that Yggdrasil can heal them). Soul becomes more useful at higher difficulties against them. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: May 26 2011, 19:56
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May 26 2011, 20:17
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marcho
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I'm looking to run through at the hard-heroic range. So hp wise they are similar to the standard bosses? or somewhere between boss and legendary?
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May 26 2011, 22:05
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Ichy
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A little more then bosses but far less then Legendarys.
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May 26 2011, 22:31
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masquepiph
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Be wary though, the buffs they get when each one dies can be a major pain in the ass. One of the buffs will increase their attack power and let them physically crit you even if you have them weakened. They still won't be that hard, but if you don't pay attention they can shave through your HP in a heartbeat.
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May 26 2011, 22:41
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Vasistas
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When do people usually beat Gods? Is it possible to beat them at Lvl 115 with only infusion of gaia and scroll of the gods and avatar? And how big is the difference bedween those three? Do they all spawn allone?
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May 26 2011, 22:47
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ May 26 2011, 22:31)  Be wary though, the buffs they get when each one dies can be a major pain in the ass. One of the buffs will increase their attack power and let them physically crit you even if you have them weakened. They still won't be that hard, but if you don't pay attention they can shave through your HP in a heartbeat.
Which is why you kill 3 of them on the same 1-2 turns. Always take out yggdrasil first since it can heal the others after that its just soul burst them evenly. This post has been edited by Eutopia: May 26 2011, 22:48
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May 26 2011, 23:15
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marcho
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Trio clear, was nice and easy. Thanks for the info and advice.
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May 27 2011, 02:59
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ May 26 2011, 13:41)  1. When do people usually beat Gods? 2. Is it possible to beat them at Lvl 115 with only infusion of gaia and scroll of the gods and avatar? 3. And how big is the difference bedween those three? 4. Do they all spawn allone?
1 & 2. I killed all three before I got to level 115, using a pre-pre-nerf high bleed axe. Since you can now keep Infusion of Gaea going for several hundred rounds due to infusion slots auto-refilling, it's probably easier than it was when I did it. 3. Real Life is significantly easier than IPU, who's a bit easier than FSM. But you absolutely need Spark of Life going at all times, and bringing spirit restoratives is not a bad idea. Their spirit attack will always one-shot you if you don't have Spark up. 4. The gods all spawn alone.
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May 27 2011, 03:43
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Grahf
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Accuracy: 243/245 (99.18%), Crits: 74/243 (30.45%), Offhand: 109/243 (44.86%), Domino: 0/243 (0.00%), OverStrikes: 0/243 (0.00%), Coalesce: 0/0 (0%), Interference: 0/16 (0.00%), Resists: 0/0 (0%), Spell Crits: 0/0 (0%), Avg hit dmg: 1174.35|0, Avg crit dmg: 1745.31|0, Avg dmg: 1348.22|0Hits taken: 85/209 (40.67%), Missed: 0/209 (0.00%), Evaded: 75/209 (35.89%), Blocked: 0/209 (0.00%), Parried: 49/209 (23.44%), Resisted: 0/0 (0%), Crits taken: 27/85 (31.76%), Total taken: 74964, Avg taken: 881.93
306 10 You gain 101037 Credits! 306 9 You gain 23735.72 EXP! 306 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 306 7 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing] 306 6 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Leather Gauntlets of the Stone-skinned] 306 5 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn] 306 4 You are Victorious! 306 3 Regen II restores 152 points of health. 306 2 Invisible Pink Unicorn has been defeated. 306 1 You crit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 1742 dark damage.
Bloody hell, that was fucking annoying.
It spawned with around 410,000 hit points or something.
Items used:
2 average mana potions 3 greater mana potions 1 superior mana potion 1 godly mana potion 9 or 10 infusions of darkness
Didn't switch out my armor or weapons or anything. I suppose if I fight FSM that I should at least try to get some Dark mitigation gear, because those crits near the end were trying my patience.
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May 27 2011, 03:58
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Vasistas
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 27 2011, 02:59)  1 & 2. I killed all three before I got to level 115, using a pre-pre-nerf high bleed axe. Since you can now keep Infusion of Gaea going for several hundred rounds due to infusion slots auto-refilling, it's probably easier than it was when I did it.
3. Real Life is significantly easier than IPU, who's a bit easier than FSM. But you absolutely need Spark of Life going at all times, and bringing spirit restoratives is not a bad idea. Their spirit attack will always one-shot you if you don't have Spark up.
4. The gods all spawn alone.
Thx, tried FSM and had him nearly. Unfortunately ran out of manapotions, should have taken elixiers instead of Godlys. ended up dying too often because no possibly to heal anymore and in the end triggered spark o life until running out of spirit. That sob had no visible healthbar left in the end and still he got me. Have a bleed axe and a proc rapierNext time I get him. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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May 27 2011, 04:18
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ May 26 2011, 21:58)  Thx, tried FSM and had him nearly. Unfortunately ran out of manapotions, should have taken elixiers instead of Godlys. ended up dying too often because no possibly to heal anymore and in the end triggered spark o life until running out of spirit. That sob had no visible healthbar left in the end and still he got me. Have a bleed axe and a proc rapierNext time I get him. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You need a rapier with more turns of penetrated armor and preferably not 'of balance' unless your accuracy is REALLY bad.
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May 27 2011, 05:22
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(Vasistas @ May 27 2011, 03:58)  Thx, tried FSM and had him nearly. Unfortunately ran out of manapotions, should have taken elixiers instead of Godlys. ended up dying too often because no possibly to heal anymore and in the end triggered spark o life until running out of spirit. That sob had no visible healthbar left in the end and still he got me. Have a bleed axe and a proc rapierNext time I get him. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 'Dunno if its been changed or not but hasnt rapier since piercing proc have no effect at all on magic been useless for a while? If it hasnt been changed a club is probably far better.
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May 27 2011, 07:03
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Grahf
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I guess I should have done this first? Accuracy: 303/306 (99.02%), Crits: 82/303 (27.06%), Offhand: 129/303 (42.57%), Domino: 0/303 (0.00%), OverStrikes: 0/303 (0.00%), Coalesce: 0/0 (0%), Interference: 0/17 (0.00%), Resists: 0/0 (0%), Spell Crits: 0/0 (0%), Avg hit dmg: 599.47|0, Avg crit dmg: 899.22|0, Avg dmg: 680.59|0Hits taken: 91/240 (37.92%), Missed: 3/240 (1.25%), Evaded: 76/240 (31.67%), Blocked: 0/240 (0.00%), Parried: 70/240 (29.17%), Resisted: 0/0 (0%), Crits taken: 20/91 (21.98%), Total taken: 62545, Avg taken: 687.31 347 10 You gain 50554 Credits! 347 9 You gain 17007.51 EXP! 347 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 347 7 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood] 347 6 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Mace of Balance] 347 5 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt] 347 4 You are Victorious! 347 3 Regen II restores 153 points of health. 347 2 Real Life has been defeated. 347 1 You crit Real Life for 936 piercing damage. Stuff used: 2 average mana potions 3 greater mana potions 2 superior mana potions 2 scrolls of gaia I used the scrolls mostly because I got bored just whacking away with PA. The infusions only gave me a couple hundred more damage each hit, but it got the job done faster. I guess if anyone is curious as to what I used, here's the equipment: Main Hand: Exquisite Rapier of BalanceOff Hand: Superior Prism Wakizaki of the NimbleHead: Fine Shade Helmet of the ArcanistBody: Average Shade Breastplate of the ShadowdancerArms: Superior Ruby-Adorned Leather Gauntlets of ProtectionLegs: Superior Silk Pants of ProtectionFeet: Average Phase Shoes of MjolnirHardly an optimized set up, but it worked well enough.
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May 27 2011, 09:41
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(Grahf @ May 26 2011, 22:03)  I guess I should have done this first? 347 2 Real Life has been defeated. 347 1 You crit Real Life for 936 piercing damage. Yeah, Real Life is dramatically easier than IPU. And FSM is dramatically harder than IPU. Good luck with him!
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May 27 2011, 14:31
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Grahf
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I'll probably wait and get some actual dark mitigation gear for that fight. IPU was a little bit of a squeaker that I mostly tried because I wanted to see if I could and if the nerf/silence combo worked well.
I take it that FSM has more HP and also hits harder and is faster?
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