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Shielding aura sucks.
Evade gear for RL, thrice blessed/spirit ward for the other 2. Note you can use your every day gear if your regen 2 can keep up with the damage.

For the longsword... nah. Look one post above yours how much damage a Soul Club does to FSM.

Do I have to use soul spells, or is it possible to beat them with elemental dmg?

You CAN kill them even with MM but is it worth it? Better attack their weaknesses.

Shielding aura sucks.
Evade gear for RL, thrice blessed/spirit ward for the other 2. Note you can use your every day gear if your regen 2 can keep up with the damage.

For the longsword... nah. Look one post above yours how much damage a Soul Club does to FSM.
You CAN kill them even with MM but is it worth it? Better attack their weaknesses.

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

without PA:
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 125 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 138 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 126 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 121 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 123 soul damage.

with PA:
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 138 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 138 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 123 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 130 soul damage.
You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 134 soul damage.

Meh. Rapiers have become totally worthless against FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Time to find some Ethereal sword chucks of max bleed.

Since after the resist fixed, I didn't try him out yet using just Eth rapier alone to kill him. I did it using other means instead. I do expect to see the damage output to be significantly lower than before (that's why I changed plan), but to see that even with PA, damage gained were next to nothing, is quite astonishing. Probably have something to do with the fact that you're a mage(?) ... I'll try it myself today if I have the time and the mood to do it.

However, rapier + Infusions still work well, thats I knew for sure...

Well, I tried... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Me = 131
FSM = 129

10 2 Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 11 slashing damage.
10 1 You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 212 soul damage.
9 1 You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 106 soul damage.
8 4 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 43 damage.
8 3 You parry the attack from Flying Spaghetti Monster.
8 2 Flying Spaghetti Monster gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
8 1 You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 148 soul damage.
7 3 Flying Spaghetti Monster gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
7 2 Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 2 slashing damage.
7 1 You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 43 soul damage. << This is my first attack, no PA and 0 overcharge.

I poked him with it for about 150 turns then switched to Infusions to save time. It's doable, I think.. but I'm lazy, so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 516 soul damage. VS You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1387 holy damage.

Bleed probably is a better strategy for him for most people...

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 11 2011, 01:51

No one use Soul stones?

I do! Mostly for FSM. I use 2 for the above un-quoted numbers. Also pop it from time to time in IW for the lulz if I get some from Artifact.

Tried my first Ultimate, didn't get far (my stats attached below). HP/buff/debuff upkeep was too high; mana costs were bleeding me dry. With the resist changes, is there any chance of me beating RL with pure mage at my current level? Is it possible to melee it with a mage-heavy primary attribute distribution? Any advice appreciated.

Combatlog:

106 2 Purge hits Real Life for 26 holy damage.
98 2 Meteor hits Real Life for 37 fire damage.
97 2 Chain Lightning hits Real Life for 51 elec damage.

10 2 Soul Harvest hits Real Life for 361 soul damage.
11 2 Soul Harvest hits Real Life for 264 soul damage.
13 2 Soul Reaper hits Real Life for 181 soul damage.
20 2 Soul Reaper hits Real Life for 141 soul damage.
19 6 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 114 damage.

106 5 Internet Shutdown hits you for 8192 soul damage. (no Bewilder, 2179 max hp)
106 4 Real Life casts Internet Shutdown
17 4 Real Life hits you for 351 soul damage.
14 5 Real Life hits you for 240 soul damage.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=24 (Real Life) LV=103 HP=275730 MP=117 SP=46 NA=158 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #109 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Tried my first Ultimate, didn't get far (my stats attached below). HP/buff/debuff upkeep was too high; mana costs were bleeding me dry. With the resist changes, is there any chance of me beating RL with pure mage at my current level? Is it possible to melee it with a mage-heavy primary attribute distribution? Any advice appreciated.

Combatlog:

106 2 Purge hits Real Life for 26 holy damage.
98 2 Meteor hits Real Life for 37 fire damage.
97 2 Chain Lightning hits Real Life for 51 elec damage.

10 2 Soul Harvest hits Real Life for 361 soul damage.
11 2 Soul Harvest hits Real Life for 264 soul damage.
13 2 Soul Reaper hits Real Life for 181 soul damage.
20 2 Soul Reaper hits Real Life for 141 soul damage.
19 6 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 114 damage.

106 5 Internet Shutdown hits you for 8192 soul damage. (no Bewilder, 2179 max hp)
106 4 Real Life casts Internet Shutdown
17 4 Real Life hits you for 351 soul damage.
14 5 Real Life hits you for 240 soul damage.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=24 (Real Life) LV=103 HP=275730 MP=117 SP=46 NA=158 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #109 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Maged RL again

213 10 You gain 1033 Credits!
213 9 You gain 12439.21 EXP!
213 8 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
213 7 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
213 6 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Leather Breastplate of Protection]
213 5 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
213 4 You are Victorious!
213 3 Real Life has been defeated.

Edit i forgot to use arcane focus :/
I could have maged RL faster

Your problems: you are using a focus staff and you need to do high damage against them or you will run out of mp. I wasted 5 godly mana potions and i am sure the higher level players can do it faster with less potions.
Also your forbidden proficiency is too low, not to mention you are not even using a full set demon fiend gear.
Also for surviving his SP attack , you can use spark of life (2 or 4 times) or you can bewilder and use either the spell or scroll absorb (spell version is less reliable) and weaken to survive crits. Or if you are confident about your flee and/or defence, you can cast silence. And the scroll of haste and spell haste seem to stack, because i seriously outspeeded RL by having sometimes 3 attacks before he could act again


edit:
Justed maged FSM again and without using spark

554 11 You gain 1030 Credits!
554 10 You gain 24492.15 EXP!
554 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
554 8 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
554 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Superior Shortsword of the Raccoon]
554 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
554 5 You are Victorious!

it's actually quite funny that FSM does less damage than my regen I can recover, combined with my higher speed with the scroll buff i don't even seem to need weaken and can silence him for the entire fight. I seem to get a constant 2 turns against him if i use haste and the scroll version at once

This post has been edited by hyl: Mar 15 2011, 01:13

I don't remember you maging those boss to death at LV. 104 ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Don't try the maging path until LV... LV 200?

I don't know. I can't maging them yet, will make next try until I get nerf.

bleeding path is only path for most 100-150 people, I think.

I don't remember you maging those boss to death at LV. 104 ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i used to when i was 108, but then again PA worked for magic

Thanks for the advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have some follow-up queries:
- How much forbidden proficiency would I need, roughly?
- Would getting 5/5 Poison make a difference?
- What weapon(s) would you recommend I use if I were to pursue the bleeding option?

Thanks for the advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have some follow-up queries:
- How much forbidden proficiency would I need, roughly?
- Would getting 5/5 Poison make a difference?
- What weapon(s) would you recommend I use if I were to pursue the bleeding option?

-A lot, because of his high barrier rating.
-Because of his high barrier ratng, the only reason that you are using poison is to slow down his mp/sp regain to get less often by his spirit and magic attacks. Not for the damage. But spending 5 points in poison increases it's duration ,so it's usefull but not needed.
-Probably a high bleed axe with a base bleed of somewhat close to 20, because dual wielding or 1 handed + shield is safer than using a 2handed weapon.

I have a question also, is a high bleed axe + decent bleed sword chucks a good combo against RL?
Sword chucks has a 16 base bleed and the axe has 20 base bleed.
On that note, If I do use them, which should I put on my main hand? Will the crit bonus decrease if the SW are put in my off hand? If so, by how much?
And finally, If I have them both on (bleeds last 4 turns for each weap), will the bleed stack? As in, will RL get 2 four turn bleed statuses, or will one override the other?

This post has been edited by (Cheater) KamuiSeph: Mar 15 2011, 14:55

I have a question also, is a high bleed axe + decent bleed sword chucks a good combo against RL?
Sword chucks has a 16 base bleed and the axe has 20 base bleed.
On that note, If I do use them, which should I put on my main hand? Will the crit bonus decrease if the SW are put in my off hand? If so, by how much?
And finally, If I have them both on (bleeds last 4 turns for each weap), will the bleed stack? As in, will RL get 2 four turn bleed statuses, or will one override the other?

As of 5.0

Dualwield Changes

- Whenever the mainhand and offhand weapons have the same proc, they are now combined in the following way:
-- The proc chance is combined multiplicatively, as (1 - ((1 - mainhand_chance) * (1 - offhand_chance)))
-- The duration and damage are the weighted average of the duration and damage on the proc of the two weapons, with a 0.75 weight on the main hand and 0.25 on the off hand.

Meaning you probably increase your proc chance, but you will lose some damage because your chucks have lower bleed than the axe.

As of 5.0
Meaning you probably increase your proc chance, but you will lose some damage because your chucks have lower bleed than the axe.

I see, so would that be worth it? Or should I pick something else for my off hand? Or nothing at all?

This post has been edited by (Cheater) KamuiSeph: Mar 15 2011, 15:22

I rather use something with some decent parry or a shield, but it's for you to decide if you want to use the chucks.

If the axe has a high chance of BW, then putting a weapon with a lower bleed amount in the off hand might actually reduce the total damage over time. (The reduction in bleed per turn might outweigh the number of turns of bleed gained.) The numbers aren't easy to work out, of course...

If the axe has a high chance of BW, then putting a weapon with a lower bleed amount in the off hand might actually reduce the total damage over time. (The reduction in bleed per turn might outweigh the number of turns of bleed gained.) The numbers aren't easy to work out, of course...

But wouldn't that be offset by the increase in crits from the sword chucks bonus?

It depends. The thing is, the fraction of turns when bleed is active obviously can't be more than 100%, so that puts a cap on how much you can increase it. You don't want to increase that number from 90% to 95% at the expense of losing 10% of your damage per turn. Those are made up numbers, of course. Like I said, working out the true values isn't easy... and I have no idea what your best setup is. I just threw that in there as something to think about.