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post Apr 14 2019, 17:24
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1. You will get 147 HGM, 694 MGM, 11 RA and 7 bindings of each types if salvaging it.

2. The normal buy cost is five times the selling price, and the buyback cost of the salvaged is five times that.
I remember that the selling price of Peerless Power (condition 100%) is 18.9k, so the buyback cost would be 472k. (18.9k*5*5)

3. Replacing Power of Protection with Power of Warding?
It's a very bad idea.


1. Thanks. Now I'm a bit hesitant to salvage it due to your third point.

2. Oh, now it makes sense. I'll still buy it back because it worths more than that.

3. Really? I just soul-fused it... I thought mixing protection and warding is good, my shield, leggings, and boots are protection, helmet and armor are warding, and my gauntlet is slaughter. (might change boots to balance) Why is it a bad idea? I do have a full protection set, but I forged more on those I said above.

My stats right now:
82.1 % physical mitigation
80.5 % magical mitigation
67.4 % block chance
65.3 % parry chance

Isn't both Pmit and Mmit above 80% desirable?

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post Apr 14 2019, 17:42
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 10:51) *

With at least crys III i would say yes it is.

What do you mean by "crys III"?

And another question, I have 1 monster at PL 68 atm. Should I start investing in another monster, or just focus on dumping any crystals I get into the one I have so far?
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post Apr 14 2019, 17:45
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 11:42) *

What do you mean by "crys III"?

And another question, I have 1 monster at PL 68 atm. Should I start investing in another monster, or just focus on dumping any crystals I get into the one I have so far?


Crystarium III that is. One of the hath perks.

Create as many monsters as you can so you can get more gifts in return per period of time I would say.

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post Apr 14 2019, 17:46
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 17:42) *

What do you mean by "crys III"?

The hath perk Crystarium III.
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And another question, I have 1 monster at PL 68 atm. Should I start investing in another monster, or just focus on dumping any crystals I get into the one I have so far?
But you dont can use crystals to open another monsterslot. For that you need chaos token.
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post Apr 14 2019, 17:54
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Hahaha, 1750 hath needed just to get to crys III. I only just got two for the first time from an artifact today and I don't have a pc to leave on 24/7

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 11:46) *

But you dont can use crystals to open another monsterslot. For that you need chaos token.

I know, but I wasn't sure if i should keep investing my chaos tokens and crystals into my one monster or start up a second. The elemental resistance crystals seem easy enough to come by, but the stat up crystals are a bitch to farm and cost so much.
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post Apr 14 2019, 17:55
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 17:54) *

I know, but I wasn't sure if i should keep investing my chaos tokens and crystals into my one monster or start up a second. The elemental resistance crystals seem easy enough to come by, but the stat up crystals are a bitch to farm and cost so much.
With only one monsterslot you shouldnt waste tokens on monster. Open more slots.
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post Apr 14 2019, 19:57
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So, 1H build. I'm guessing focus on my STR, DEX, and END, prioritizing in that order? Followed by occasional leveling of AGI & WIS every now and then?

And am I fine strategy wise or is there something I'm missing or could do to improve on?
When fighting, I immediately buff myself up with Protection, Regen, Haste, and maybe HS if I proc channeling. And then from there I keep using HP, MP, and Spirit droughts as needed whilst keeping my other buffs active, sometimes casting Absorb or SoL if I get channeling again. Currently using a mace since its my best weapon atm, and I find it helps me control how many monsters attack me at once keeping some of them stunned.
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post Apr 14 2019, 20:10
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 19:57) *

So, 1H build. I'm guessing focus on my STR, DEX, and END, prioritizing in that order?
Personally i would switch Str and Dex but yes.
QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 19:57) *

Followed by occasional leveling of AGI & WIS every now and then?

For Agi you did reach the amount you actually want when the next point in Agi would increase your attack speed bonus above 0%. Wis well, yeah now and then until you did reach resist chance around 20%, but that should be shortly after level 400.
QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 19:57) *

And am I fine strategy wise or is there something I'm missing or could do to improve on?
Well, lets see.
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When fighting, I immediately buff myself up with Protection, Regen, Haste, and maybe HS if I proc channeling.
So you only use Heart Seeker when you got a lucky channeling? I would say you should when you dont get a channeling still cast it after you did switch spirit stance on.
QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 19:57) *

And then from there I keep using HP, MP, and Spirit droughts as needed whilst keeping my other buffs active, sometimes casting Absorb or SoL if I get channeling again.
Forget about Absorb. It is useless and a waste of a good chaneling. I would say you could use it until you are stronger, but it doesnt work on critical hits and those are the ones that kill you or bring you close.

QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 19:57) *
Currently using a mace since its my best weapon atm, and I find it helps me control how many monsters attack me at once keeping some of them stunned.
Did you actually compare this with another weapon?
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:10
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 14:10) *

Did you actually compare this with another weapon?


Currently I'm using the Superior Fiery Club of the Nimble .
The only 1H weapon I have with higher base damage is an Average Axe, but it lacks the Fire Strike and DEX bonus so I'm pretty sure the mace beats it out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
Other items have a STR bonus with AGI instead of DEX, like my Exquisite Hallowed Wakizashi of Slaughter, or don't have the STR bonus at all, on top of having less base damage. If they did, I'd have considered soulfusing them.

Is there some sort of damage calculator or something where I can input stats to see what items are better?
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:16
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 21:10) *

Currently I'm using the Superior Fiery Club of the Nimble .
Oh, sorry. I mixed up mace with club.

QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 21:10) *

Is there some sort of damage calculator or something where I can input stats to see what items are better?

Sure there is.
Live percental ranges
But i am not sure how accurate it actually is with sup or exq equipment.
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:17
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Oops, no that was my bad. I said "mace" in my posts when I should've said "club"
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:17
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The damage output isn't the only thing that matters you know.
Within the weapons you've stated, the wakizashi is your best bet if you want to succeed easier.
It may not have as much damage output as a club or an axe, but its parry is very valuable to defend yourself.
Furthermore, it's hallowed, so its elemental strike will help you against schoolgirls.
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:52
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Is the easter event about to begin? Isn't it due 1 week before? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:56
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 14 2019, 15:17) *

The damage output isn't the only thing that matters you know.
Within the weapons you've stated, the wakizashi is your best bet if you want to succeed easier.
It may not have as much damage output as a club or an axe, but its parry is very valuable to defend yourself.
Furthermore, it's hallowed, so its elemental strike will help you against schoolgirls.


That's true, I forgot to consider that.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 14:10) *

For Agi you did reach the amount you actually want when the next point in Agi would increase your attack speed bonus above 0%.


Generally how much would that be for someone like me at lvl177 and +90 burden? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 14 2019, 21:59
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 21:56) *

Generally how much would that be for someone like me at lvl177 and +90 burden? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Ehm, not sure tbh. But wiki tells us about agi this

1 point above the player's level = +(10%/level) Attack Speed
So i would say somewhere around 177 and this does include Agi you get from your equipment and the agi from the bonus PA.
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post Apr 14 2019, 22:03
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Apr 14 2019, 21:52) *

Is the easter event about to begin? Isn't it due 1 week before? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


...maybe this year there will be no easter event? The suspense is killing me!

Perhaps, we should, maybe, ... wait?
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post Apr 14 2019, 22:23
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 15:59) *

Ehm, not sure tbh. But wiki tells us about agi this

1 point above the player's level = +(10%/level) Attack Speed
So i would say somewhere around 177 and this does include Agi you get from your equipment and the agi from the bonus PA.


Wiki's misleading. I don't know what it means by "1 point above the player's level = +(10%/level) Attack Speed" when it says below the STATS table:
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The attack speed increases from AGI is capped at 10%, which occurs at 2x level.

And I dug a little further and apparaently
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If burden > 40, decreases melee attack speed bonuses (fully eliminates any bonus at 90 burden).

So no atk speed bonus for me from AGI
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post Apr 14 2019, 22:26
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Yeah, never trust the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) But i would still say something around your level would be your golden number. Give me a few minutes and i will take a look at my agi to double check this.

So, my Agi is 503 alltogether, so yeah, somewhere around 177 should be your golden number, no matter what the wiki actually tells you, and when you improve the tier of your armor set, you will sooner or later fall below 90 burden. That is something you just cant prevent and how much i sometimes wish i could.

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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 21:23) *

Wiki's misleading. I don't know what it means by "1 point above the player's level = +(10%/level) Attack Speed" when it says below the STATS table:

And I dug a little further and apparaently

So no atk speed bonus for me from AGI


That's 10% divided by level - so having exactly your level would be 0% attack speed, 1 point above would be say... 177th of 10%, and 177 points above would be 10%. That's (most likely) effective agi, not base agi, so the amount on your gear factors in too.

The wiki is usually right, but the way it's written can sometimes be ambiguous (like in that case - I imagine you read it as '10% per level' rather than '10% divided by level') and a lot of the formulae require mathematical understanding to get the context of their usage in real situations (like the several stats applied in layers).

Some other things on this page...

QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 16:54) *

I know, but I wasn't sure if i should keep investing my chaos tokens and crystals into my one monster or start up a second. The elemental resistance crystals seem easy enough to come by, but the stat up crystals are a bitch to farm and cost so much.


Don't worry about upgrading your monsters right now - it's a long, LONG way off before they'll start to appear in battles for almost anyone. For now, only use crystals on them when morale is low (avoids having to drug them), and use your chaos tokens to unlock more slots (do not upgrade your current monsters with them - there are points at which it costs enough for the next monster that it's more efficient to upgrade their gift chance, but that's not for a long time for you yet).

QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 18:57) *

So, 1H build. I'm guessing focus on my STR, DEX, and END, prioritizing in that order? Followed by occasional leveling of AGI & WIS every now and then?

And am I fine strategy wise or is there something I'm missing or could do to improve on?
When fighting, I immediately buff myself up with Protection, Regen, Haste, and maybe HS if I proc channeling. And then from there I keep using HP, MP, and Spirit droughts as needed whilst keeping my other buffs active, sometimes casting Absorb or SoL if I get channeling again. Currently using a mace since its my best weapon atm, and I find it helps me control how many monsters attack me at once keeping some of them stunned.


Not sure if anyone explained this so far so: the 1H style is built around blocking hits and counter-attacking, as its primary form of multi-target damage. The way attack speed works in HentaiVerse is by staggering your turns relative to the monsters (essentially giving you occasional turns where you're attacking, but they aren't). Obviously this reduces the amounts of hits you're taking, while you're only doing regular attacks. The same principle applies to evasion (and shadow veil by extension) - evading attacks means you aren't countering them. Same goes for stunned monsters - they're not attacking while they're stunned.

(The other reason almost all 1H players use rapier is penetrated armour is by far the most effective weapon proc for clear speed).

Use your personal judgment to decide how much damage you can safely handle. Most people play 2H at your level until it starts to slow down / get dangerous, before switching to 1H. Stat priorities are roughly equal for str + dex, keep agi around your level, keep endurance in the same region. You can slack on wis, get it when it's cheap compared to your current exp gain.

Hope this explains some things.

Edit: Oh, also, re: whether grindfest is worth it - for higher levels with drop trainings and hath perks, yeah, it is, but at your level focus on doing the arenas at the highest difficulty level you can handle and just level up. You'll be in the mid-late 300s before that's a concern

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post Apr 15 2019, 00:20
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 22:26) *

Yeah, never trust the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) But i would still say something around your level would be your golden number. Give me a few minutes and i will take a look at my agi to double check this.

So, my Agi is 503 alltogether, so yeah, somewhere around 177 should be your golden number, no matter what the wiki actually tells you, and when you improve the tier of your armor set, you will sooner or later fall below 90 burden. That is something you just cant prevent and how much i sometimes wish i could.


You make this sound more complicated, than it actually is.

On the stats page scroll down until you see "Effective Primary Stats". The agility value there should be the same or lower than your level, then you won't have any attack speed bonus.
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