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post Mar 10 2019, 11:41
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Okey I used HV Battle stats until round 450... only to find out that script doesnt even work, all it can do is keep the time haha.... It says I used 1 regen 1 Heartseeker.. fail uninstall again.

QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 09:56) *

I kept my data in a spreadsheet instead, here are the most recent results: (sheet gfProfit for recent run data, itemPriceUsages for average usages/loots or such).

[drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/16AFvrkQeAm...iew?usp=sharing


all I see is numbers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What Im interested in is how many draughts / Cures you used
how much damage receives from the monsters ( I think I saw someone using such a script )
until the same round


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My stats are as in the screenshot above, which is not much different (if not slightly inferior) to yours.

My Hath Perks: Vigorous Vitality, Resplendent Regeneration (lol), Long Gone Before Daylight, Innate Arcana IV (Protection+Spirit Shield+Spark of Life), Crystarium V, Tokenizer III, Dæmon Duality II


Yeh, I have not the slighest idea why I suck so hard at GF, my stats are definetly enough to reach the late rounds.

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something else, somehow my screen is always cut off at the 10th Monster or even at this Flee movement, any idea how to fix it?

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post Mar 10 2019, 14:22
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 11:41) *

all I see is numbers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What Im interested in is how many draughts / Cures you used
how much damage receives from the monsters ( I think I saw someone using such a script )
until the same round

Check his link to the spreadsheet.
List "gfProfit" has that data, but for the 1000 rounds.

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something else, somehow my screen is always cut off at the 10th Monster or even at this Flee movement, any idea how to fix it?

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Try disabling that monster beautification addon (or all battle addons except Monsterbation) to see if it fixes the problem...
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post Mar 10 2019, 14:30
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Try disabling that monster beautification addon

iirc updating it to the latest version also helps, but i forgot what it's called or where to find it
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post Mar 10 2019, 15:13
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Mar 10 2019, 13:22) *

Check his link to the spreadsheet.
List "gfProfit" has that data, but for the 1000 rounds.

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Try disabling that monster beautification addon (or all battle addons except Monsterbation) to see if it fixes the problem...



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iirc updating it to the latest version also helps, but i forgot what it's called or where to find it


do you mean Battle unfocus?
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post Mar 10 2019, 15:20
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do you mean Battle unfocus?

that might be it. in that case, here's how to fix it:

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Little warning: this version of Monsterbation breaks the Battle Unfocus script layout.
To fix that, one needs to comment that line in the bottom of Battle Unfocus:
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div.btm6{position:relative !important; top:0px !important; left:0px !important;}

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post Mar 10 2019, 15:22
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 10 2019, 14:20) *

that might be it. in that case, here's how to fix it:


already done that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) cant be the reason

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Okay, I disabled it completed and everything is back to " normal " but way to plain to play like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

if it helps Im using Opera and Battle unfocus in Stylish

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post Mar 10 2019, 17:10
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If you need help with Battle Unfocus, you can ask me.
Since boulay is away, I'm taking care of its updating.
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post Mar 10 2019, 23:32
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 05:41) *

all I see is numbers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What Im interested in is how many draughts / Cures you used
how much damage receives from the monsters ( I think I saw someone using such a script )


Yeah like tox01 said, check the other sheets - note that they are indeed for all 1000 rounds instead of 450; be warned that the usage scaling most likely isn't linear, since during later rounds monsters do more damage and thus having to use more cures/consumables/etc, although I do start using Shadow Veil post 600 rounds. The damage I received from the monsters can also be found in sheet gfProfit; the averages can be found in gfDmgAnalysis.

Hmm, I'm not sure I see the reason for you to flee in your screenshot. Your hp/other vitals seem fine; did you run out of potions or something?

Either way, I suggest for improvement:
  • Monsterbation or some other script. I'm not sure about others, but I feel like monsterbation speeds up my t/s a ton, due to hoverplay, alerts, and hotkeys for consumables/imperil/skills/etc, along with tons of other features.
  • I suggest using fire spike shield instead, Searing Skin (10% damage reduction) is much better than Freezing Limbs (10% speed reduction). If you decide to switch, I also suggest using a few frost infusions if you do so. Of course, this also depends on your weapon element / elemental strike (I can't find what weapon you're using).


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post Mar 10 2019, 23:47
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 22:32) *

Yeah like tox01 said, check the other sheets - note that they are indeed for all 1000 rounds instead of 450; be warned that the usage scaling most likely isn't linear, since during later rounds monsters do more damage and thus having to use more cures/consumables/etc, although I do start using Shadow Veil post 600 rounds. The damage I received from the monsters can also be found in sheet gfProfit; the averages can be found in gfDmgAnalysis.

Hmm, I'm not sure I see the reason for you to flee in your screenshot. Your hp/other vitals seem fine; did you run out of potions or something?

Either way, I suggest for improvement:
  • Monsterbation or some other script. I'm not sure about others, but I feel like monsterbation speeds up my t/s a ton, due to hoverplay, alerts, and hotkeys for consumables/imperil/skills/etc, along with tons of other features.
  • I suggest using fire spike shield instead, Searing Skin (10% damage reduction) is much better than Freezing Limbs (10% speed reduction). If you decide to switch, I also suggest using a few frost infusions if you do so. Of course, this also depends on your weapon element / elemental strike (I can't find what weapon you're using).


I ran because i got huge damage income so far that I had to Cure like every 2nd round.

what do you mean you cant look at my weapon ? all my equipment is listed in my signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

well, I just found out that my Monsterbation version is pretty old and I will update it tomorrow, that way I can see the damage I receive. Yes I can see all your numbers, but for me its more helpful why I dont seem to bypass that specifc round.. comparing received damage taken might help to see the failure in my gameplay
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post Mar 10 2019, 23:58
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 17:47) *

I ran because i got huge damage income so far that I had to Cure like every 2nd round.

what do you mean you cant look at my weapon ? all my equipment is listed in my signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

well, I just found out that my Monsterbation version is pretty old and I will update it tomorrow, that way I can see the damage I receive. Yes I can see all your numbers, but for me its more helpful why I dont seem to bypass that specifc round.. comparing received damage taken might help to see the failure in my gameplay


Hmm, every 2 rounds or every 2 turns? If every 2nd round that doesn't seem too unreasonable, sometimes happens to me too. By having set alerts for hp in monsterbation and keybinds to strongest(cure/etc) it doesn't really slow me down all too much.

I'll try checking the damage received next time I do GF at round 450 and post it for you then.
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post Mar 11 2019, 01:27
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 11 2019, 06:47) *

what do you mean you cant look at my weapon ? all my equipment is listed in my signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Just your boots are not O_o

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I'm looking at your stats and equips and I don't see why you should be having issues with anything tbh.

Rapier ADB not that great, but you've got plenty of ADB forges on weapons and armor.
You could probably drop your STR/WIS by a couple of points and distribute it between END/DEX for a marginal increase in survivability with minimal dmg loss.
What are you doing in these pfests? Imperiling? OFCing?
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post Mar 11 2019, 02:10
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Couple of comments on the weak mage set I've been running:

1. When you are weak, normal arenas feel MUCH harder than SG arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
2. Aether shards are beyond the simple 10% less mana cost - without aether shard I need to pop an elixir since I use more manas than what I can get from draughts and potions w/o the shard lol.

Question - what kind of damage output should I aim for a comfortable arena run? I feel fine on the element day or when I have riddlemaster's blessing activated, but having hard time otherwise. Right now I think I 2~3 shot mosnters on average - should I aim for 1~2 shots? And how much casting speed do I want? I've read that for normal arenas radiants are better, but I still think I should get some minimal casting speed - right now it's 9.4% (no charged piece)

Current ideas for a solution w/o changing the gear:

1. DD2 2.Support prof perk 3. Get to 0.8 prof factor

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My staff is p5 and got annihilator 4 instead of s4. Probably not gonna reforge it, but I still might need at least one charged piece for make up for it.

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post Mar 11 2019, 04:44
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Can anyone teach a poor soul how to monsterbate (and live percentile ranges)? So far:

-I'm running Mozilla Firefox and got the Tampermonkey add-on
-Went to get Monsterbation and get Live Percentile Ranges
-Opened each to get the text within
-Clicked the "+" to create a New Userscript, then pasted in the text (did one for each)

For LPR, I just keep getting "No data available for this equip type" at the bottom of the pop-up window for each equipment.

For MB, nothing really seems to happen. It looks like the browser is acknowledging MB as being there and active on the hentaiverse.org and alt.hentaiverse.org domains, but hovering does nothing, I don't get the end-of-arena summaries, etc.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! : )
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post Mar 11 2019, 04:50
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Not sure if FireFox works the exact same as chrome, but you should something like these:

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Do you see a number in red box like I do when you go to hentaiverse? That's the number of active userscripts, and you should see at least 1, for monsterbation.

Maybe some screenshots of your userscript page and equipment page would be helpful for better understanding of the issue.

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post Mar 11 2019, 05:05
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 19:50) *

Maybe some screenshots of your userscript page and equipment page would be helpful for better understanding of the issue.


Red box: Attached Image

Tampermonkey dashboard: Attached Image

Equipment screen: Attached Image

Hopefully these suffice

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post Mar 11 2019, 05:12
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Hmm...The most recent version of the monsterbation is 1.2.4.3 so maybe try to update it? And your equipment screen attachment is tampermonky dashboard attachment lol.
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post Mar 11 2019, 05:19
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2019, 00:05) *

Red box: Attached Image

Tampermonkey dashboard: Attached Image

Equipment screen: Attached Image

Hopefully these suffice

character > settings > Use Custom Font (I use Verdana)

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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 10 2019, 20:19) *

character > settings > Use Custom Font (I use Verdana)


Thanks! That solves LPR. That blows my mind that using a custom font is what makes that work.
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post Mar 11 2019, 07:09
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 17:58) *

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 17:47) *

Yes I can see all your numbers, but for me its more helpful why I dont seem to bypass that specifc round.. comparing received damage taken might help to see the failure in my gameplay

I'll try checking the damage received next time I do GF at round 450 and post it for you then.

Here's total damage taken / usages at round 450 for me:
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post Mar 11 2019, 07:49
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Say I was trying to maximize mage play for IWBTHfest. Would the proficiency required be lower because it doesn't have the PFUDOR +10% resist/parry? Just wanted to see if I could squeeze out a little more in other areas on my equips.
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