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post Mar 2 2019, 15:11
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I didnt notice any actually difference of blood token drops that could not easy explain by RNG. I dont think that tokenizer no matter what level has actually influence on the blood token you get. Tbh i wouldnt even be suprised if chaos and blood token wouldnt be related in anyway when it comes to calculate what drops.
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post Mar 2 2019, 17:09
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The description says:
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Doubles the chance of random mob token drops.


It's really odd that in the loot rool thingamajig the tokenizer is after token type roll.

I would think, based on the description, that it would affect the loot roll just as Archaeologist does.

Or, based on the loot drop roll schematic, that it would make sense if it dropped multiples of the token chosen. Like, regardless of hath perk the token type would be selected (so, unaffected by the perk) and then you'd simply get 2/3/4 of that chosen token.


Seems the description and the loot drop roll schematic are contradictory

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post Mar 2 2019, 17:46
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I want to try out mage with some crap gears, and I need to do some forging on this cotton glove for prof. Which attributes do I have to forge beyond 5? This is just for arenas.

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post Mar 2 2019, 17:53
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 15:46) *

I want to try out mage with some crap gears, and I need to do some forging on this cotton glove for prof. Which attributes do I have to forge beyond 5? This is just for arenas.

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post Mar 2 2019, 18:03
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Cool thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm curious how far I'd go with the crap gears lol It'd be funny if it's still faster than 1H, which probably will if it can handle pf haha

EDIT: One thing I've noticed for gears in DJNoni's signature is, that magical accuracy is never forged. Is it because mage have enough to begin with?

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post Mar 2 2019, 19:28
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 19:03) *

EDIT: One thing I've noticed for gears in DJNoni's signature is, that magical accuracy is never forged. Is it because mage have enough to begin with?

Depends on the staff, though if you are using suffused aether for mana conservation there's most likely no way you won't reach 200% without forging.
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post Mar 2 2019, 19:56
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Ah yeas the suffused aether. So it's about 3k for an hour right? For mages that can burn through arenas under an hour, I guess it saves 3k worth of mana pots?
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post Mar 2 2019, 20:02
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 18:56) *

Ah yeas the suffused aether. So it's about 3k for an hour right? For mages that can burn through arenas under an hour, I guess it saves 3k worth of mana pots?


yes it's worth while. Also, without aether shard I have 224.1 % hit chance. That's with my gear without forging magic accuracy.
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post Mar 2 2019, 21:37
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 3 2019, 03:02) *

yes it's worth while. Also, without aether shard I have 224.1 % hit chance. That's with my gear without forging magic accuracy.

What is the hit chance affected by?

Wisdom:
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25 points = +1% Magic Accuracy


My effective Wisdom is at:
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786

So that's 31.44%

And my bad bad very bad super terrible un-upgraded frosty mage gear:
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+19.53 %
+5.43 %
+6.78 %
+3.14 %
+5.62 %
+4.24 %

So that's 44,74%

At a grand total of 76.18%

But... My stats say:
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172.7% hit chance
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post Mar 2 2019, 21:42
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 2 2019, 20:37) *

But... My stats say:

Well, what your stats want to tell you is that sure as sure some abilities do increase your hit chance too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 2 2019, 21:47
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You get a default magic accuracy of 80% and there's also some accuracy coming from your staff proficiency.
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post Mar 2 2019, 21:50
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 2 2019, 14:37) *

What is the hit chance affected by?


The wiki formula for physical hit chance is very accurate according to my tests, and I assume it's the same for magic hit chance as well:

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Magical Hit chance = 80% + WIS * 0.04% + proficiency_bonus + (main_hand_Magic_Accuracy) + (off_hand_Magic_Accuracy) + (helmet_Magic_Accuracy) + ... + (feet_Magic_Accuracy)


Assuming you have maxed abilities in Staff Accuracy and Cloth Spellacc,
proficiency_bonus = 0.02%*staff_prof + 0.05%*cloth_prof

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post Mar 2 2019, 21:59
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off hand Magic Accuracy? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 2 2019, 22:04
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"Offhand Magic Accuracy can be achieved with a Buckler of the Battlecaster for the One-handed playstyle, or any Battlecaster weapon for Dual Wielding/Niten
Contrarily to the Attack Accuracy, the Magic Accuracy of the offhand weapon is counted in the Magical hit chance" at least according to wiki. I haven't tested it however.
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post Mar 2 2019, 22:10
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Hm, and here i am thought battlecaster would just do something about mana cost. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 2 2019, 23:18
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 3 2019, 04:50) *

The wiki formula for physical hit chance is very accurate according to my tests, and I assume it's the same for magic hit chance as well:

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Magical Hit chance = 80% + WIS * 0.04% + proficiency_bonus + (main_hand_Magic_Accuracy) + (off_hand_Magic_Accuracy) + (helmet_Magic_Accuracy) + ... + (feet_Magic_Accuracy)


Assuming you have maxed abilities in Staff Accuracy and Cloth Spellacc,
proficiency_bonus = 0.02%*staff_prof + 0.05%*cloth_prof


Ah! Good to know
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post Mar 3 2019, 03:13
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I have a b4f5 Rapier.
I am very hesitant to change to b5f4.
Can give me some advice?
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post Mar 3 2019, 03:23
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To my understanding b4f5 is better than b5f4 unless the rapier is near Peerless quality. And I'd say even if the rapier is peerless, the marginal benefit is just not worth it until you get all of your other gears right.

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post Mar 3 2019, 03:28
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I have a b4f5 Rapier.
I am very hesitant to change to b5f4.
Can give me some advice?


Look this: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=188112
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post Mar 3 2019, 04:29
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What do you spend your chaos tokens on? Should I make more monsters or use it focus on one stat?
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