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post Sep 18 2018, 16:23
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QUOTE(Lord Frith @ Sep 18 2018, 15:17) *

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The equipment I use is from ST-Ru's equipment loan service. The origins of high quality equipment are a great mystery to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


All equips ultimately comes from drops & shrining (not counting lotteries, that are pre-soulfused and therefore account-bound, i.e. not transferable with MM).

Since high-quality equips. usually only drops from shrining high-value trophies (quite rare) and from fighting at high difficulties (which is something not easy for medium-level player), and since a low-to-medium level player who can play @IWBTH or Pfudor is also one who doesn't stay low for long (because high difficulty play means more EXP so faster level up), obviously the lower the equipment level the rarer it is.

Occasionally you can found something in auctions, but if it is low lvl and good, it can easily cost you quite a bit, so much so that sometimes a very good Mag. forged to 5 would be equal if not better that the costly Leg (that also costs way more to forge to same level)

In rare occasions you could be lucky, and get a good low lvl Leg. from Bazaar; but it takes so much time to wait for the occasion, that unless you have a purposeful strategy of going very slow with the leveling up (like I do, for reasons of my own), it's not possible to rely on it.

It was different years ago, because back then all equips. dropped unassigned, even legendaries. That was ended a bit more then a year ago, and it's impossible now to find good unassigned equips (most that are still around are pre-0.82 patch, when stats were worse then modern equips).

You have to face the fact that it's very difficult to get good equip below lvl 350, and the lower the worse.

Decondelite runs a weekly auction dedicated to medium and low level equips, you can look in it, but for really good items be prepared to pay up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 18 2018, 16:05) *

mind you, it's with 600 prof and with all stat scaled at his level. don't remember if Speed scales or not, but i guess you got the point...


It doesn't (checked now on a Waki of Swiftness), but it can be increased with forging and/or IW.

Edit: Correction. No, not forgeable. Only Swift Strike IW seems possible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Sep 18 2018, 19:20
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I'd try, but all the equipment in the WTS thread seems to be level 400+ so I can't use it. I'm not sure where equipment comes from now that you can't buy it off high level players. The equipment I use is from ST-Ru's equipment loan service. The origins of high quality equipment are a great mystery to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


if you have any exquisite+ str-dex rapier you could just IW it to 10 for the hollowforged then it should work.
any shield with ~35%+ block also enough for a start (i.e exq force shield, or mag tier kite shield/buckler barrier)
if not then take example from what currently on decondelite's auction

[One46] Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (Level 288, IW 10, forged 5) (seller: tox01) | Start: 70k | Quick bid: 100k
[Shd03] Magnificent Mithril Buckler of the Barrier (Level 282, Str Agi) (seller: anruiersi) | Start: 30k | Quick bid: 50k

those - for at most 150k - could do for a start, just one and half energy drink, enough until late 350-370, not the best, but should work better than any 2H-heavy. you'll get more option later around level 350+ for upgrades, at the very least if you consistently play on PF difficulty (which isn't that difficult on 1h-heavy) getting the money for an SDA/SEA leg force shield like these

Legendary Amber Force Shield of Warding 367, Str Dex Agi, BLK 94% 450k (Snowfoxrb #199.5)
Legendary Ruby Force Shield of Dampening 342, Str End Agi, BLK 88% 450k (kug666 #162)
Legendary Jade Force Shield of Protection 368, Str Dex Agi, BLK 73% 200k (Evil Scorpio #130)
Legendary Ruby Force Shield of Protection 417, Str Dex Agi, BLK 57% 0

and mid-low ADB%tage leg rapier like these

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter 412, ADB 38% 50k (DLAE #19.5)
Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter 362, ADB 21% 300k (adasddasd #197)

are relatively easy. heck you might get lucky and got one by yourself as playing on pf theoretically give you better chance for higher quality equip drops.

disclaimer : I'm just giving example, I'm not encouraging you to buy anything as I don't know your budget or your soulfusing capabilities (how many fragments you have).
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post Sep 18 2018, 20:28
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Hello experts~

Someone can tell me which of these two options would give a greater benefit?

1. Forge the edb of my staff from 5 to 25.
2. Train Assimilator from 5 to 8 (cloth and staff prof currently at 365).

Both options cost almost the same, I'll do both but can't afford to do it at the same time, so, I want to know what to do first. I'm inclined to train assimilator since my profs are way below my level but idk.

Thanks in advance for the answers.
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post Sep 18 2018, 20:35
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Sep 18 2018, 11:28) *

Hello experts~

Someone can tell me which of these two options would give a greater benefit?

1. Forge the edb of my staff from 5 to 25.
2. Train Assimilator from 5 to 8 (cloth and staff prof currently at 365).

Both options cost almost the same, I'll do both but can't afford to do it at the same time, so, I want to know what to do first. I'm inclined to train assimilator since my profs are way below my level but idk.

Thanks in advance for the answers.


I'll say the second option is the better of both options.
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post Sep 18 2018, 21:32
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Sep 18 2018, 20:28) *

Hello experts~

Someone can tell me which of these two options would give a greater benefit?

1. Forge the edb of my staff from 5 to 25.
2. Train Assimilator from 5 to 8 (cloth and staff prof currently at 365).

Both options cost almost the same, I'll do both but can't afford to do it at the same time, so, I want to know what to do first. I'm inclined to train assimilator since my profs are way below my level but idk.

Thanks in advance for the answers.


If you are serious about maging, get a good staff and forge the shit out of it.
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post Sep 18 2018, 23:30
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I don't know if I'm "serious" but of course I was planning on heavily forge my staff, the problem is I'm no rich player and I have other expenses too, so I'll do it bit by bit. "forge the shit out of it" isn't in the list of possibilities of my wallet. :c

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post Sep 19 2018, 16:27
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I'm going to need some advice on which monsters to fight next after beating yggrasill on ring of blood's triple trio and the tree so should I focus on the goddesses next or the dragons?
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post Sep 19 2018, 17:10
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 19 2018, 16:27) *

I'm going to need some advice on which monsters to fight next after beating yggrasill on ring of blood's triple trio and the tree so should I focus on the goddesses next or the dragons?


keep Urd alive. As mage, I take on the strongest one that is furthest away from Urd. Don't imperil Urd. Because, FSM is takes to long to die when Urd buffs him.
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post Sep 19 2018, 21:45
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Sep 19 2018, 22:27) *

I'm going to need some advice on which monsters to fight next after beating yggrasill on ring of blood's triple trio and the tree so should I focus on the goddesses next or the dragons?


If you can:
1. Tree
2. Dragons
3. Gods
4. Goddesses
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post Sep 19 2018, 22:42
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Sep 19 2018, 12:45) *

If you can:
1. Tree
2. Dragons
3. Gods
4. Goddesses


I'll do it next time when I get enough blood tokens in this order.

Thanks.
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post Sep 20 2018, 07:44
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1) Target stunned enemies individually until dead.
2) Strafe all monsters back and forth.
3) Target stunned enemies individually and leave them near death to die from counters.
4) Only hit stunned enemies by moving around and striking once at a time.

Did sssss2 ever mention what playing style he used in Research for 1H when testing the effectiveness of Overpower (stun targeting) and Dark/Holy Strike vs Cold Strike (flame burn targeting)?
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post Sep 20 2018, 09:50
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 20 2018, 07:44) *

Did sssss2 ever mention what playing style he used in Research for 1H when testing the effectiveness of Overpower (stun targeting) and Dark/Holy Strike vs Cold Strike (flame burn targeting)?

1h, perhaps? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 20 2018, 18:32
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I intend to try mage, but I don't know the basic difference between mage playstyle. Why does storm>lightning=cold, and holy>dark? (base on infusion price). Which piece to choose for 4+1 and 3+2?
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post Sep 20 2018, 18:58
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Sep 20 2018, 18:32) *

Which piece to choose for 4+1 and 3+2?

this question needs for you to already know your element to be answered.

as far as i know, element styles perform not-so-differently from each other, with maybe wind and elec having an advantage because they can earn more counter-resist via willow staffs.
as for holy, it should be better than dark because of its proc, but again i cannot put numbers.


do you already have some decent piece laying around?
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post Sep 20 2018, 20:08
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Sep 20 2018, 18:32) *

I intend to try mage, but I don't know the basic difference between mage playstyle. Why does storm>lightning=cold, and holy>dark? (base on infusion price). Which piece to choose for 4+1 and 3+2?


I played cold mage up to level500, works very well. Now I play dark mage, but now I have the funds for it.


It depends on your budget, really. Unlimited? Holy mage it is. Just very high? Wind or Elec, which ever you can get a staff for. Or, dark if you don't want to play imperil.

Then after you have the staff, do some calculations on the proficiency. Use Scemaz's mage prof calculator. Cold / wind / elec can normally use shoes only for prof. Forge until 0.68 prof factor.

If you play dark, you'll probably start with shoes+gloves for 0.8 imperil style, then forge and level up until you can even reach 1.0 with good shoes+gloves.
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post Sep 21 2018, 16:18
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str 175

dex 329

agi 499

end 499

int 594

wis 594


EXP left : 182,758

As you can see, it's Mage stats.
I simulated this with HV utils Script.
Can it go lower than that?
I want 'A' optimization (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

P.S: Also, I can't quite find the lowest point on Warrior.
Can anyone suggest it, plz?

str 584

dex 584

agi 501

end 580

int 400

wis 501

190,648,898
This one is my best; with 1H settings.(low agi)
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post Sep 21 2018, 19:23
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QUOTE(almondcanine @ Sep 21 2018, 09:18) *

str 175

dex 329

agi 499

end 499

int 594

wis 594
EXP left : 182,758

As you can see, it's Mage stats.
I simulated this with HV utils Script.
Can it go lower than that?
I want 'A' optimization (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

P.S: Also, I can't quite find the lowest point on Warrior.
Can anyone suggest it, plz?

str 584

dex 584

agi 501

end 580

int 400

wis 501

190,648,898
This one is my best; with 1H settings.(low agi)


For warrior, might not need that much int - apparently zero is ok, but if you want some cheap spirit 2-300 might be fine. You might also want a bit less agility (you want it low enough that you don't have attack speed bonus as 1h).
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post Sep 21 2018, 23:26
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QUOTE(almondcanine @ Sep 21 2018, 22:18) *

str 584
dex 584
agi 501
end 580
int 400
wis 501


AGI is too high. Leave enough AGI so that you have almost no attack speed bonus, but high enough so that you get some mitigation from it.

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Should I buy That's Good Eatin' or Force of Nature? Accumulated 1000 haths just from dawns.

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post Sep 21 2018, 23:41
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 21 2018, 14:26) *


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Should I buy That's Good Eatin' or Force of Nature? Accumulated 1000 haths just from dawns.


I would say that you should buy both but get force of nature first.
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post Sep 22 2018, 10:49
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I am <0.82 user and I am restarting HV now

New equips are better than my previous one so I am using equips after 0.82

I am using 1H with shield with light armor with following equips:

Magnificent Shocking Axe of Slaughter

Exquisite Mithril Buckler of Protection

Magnificent Zircon Leather Helmet of Protection

Magnificent Agile Leather Breastplate of Protection

Magnificent Leather Gauntlets of Protection

Exquisite Leather Leggings of Warding

Magnificent Onyx Shade Boots of Negation



My strat is killing one by one & using spirit and using Merciful Blow only targetting not common mobs, using Vital Strike in only spirit stance and stunned mobs

Am I doing fine? Which strat or equip should be changed? If there are a forum or article about 1H style please let me know. I have about 1M credit I earned before so I might change equips with them.
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