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post Sep 7 2018, 16:56
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I only use ED in grind fest battle. Because I like how that gives me overcharge! Not really useful but fun. However, hell no I am not using the overcharge for OFC! With my low STR that doesn't make a dent in a stick of butter. I use it for spirit stance.
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post Sep 7 2018, 17:23
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I am so used to be in spirit stance nearly all the time, i didnt even thought about mages cant do that at all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 7 2018, 18:49
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Sep 3 2018, 16:18) *

Haha, yeah, script is very helpful for mage. But if you think IW is long, how do you handle the schoolgirl arenas? PFUDOR IW on legendary takes me 15-20 min on 1h, but DwD is around an hour...

So I tried PFUDOR encounter with 1h mage, it took me 8 rounds to complete after imperil rounds. How long does it take you usually to complete after you imperil the monsters?

After monitoring about 10 battles with 9 monsters at IWBTH difficulty it takes 5-8 attacks.
I to scared to play PFUDOR, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) No I guess I'll give PFUDOR a try soon....


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Yea this is stupid: I get 4 times the proficiency for stuff I've never done!
No it isn't stupid, it is just WRONG!
I could understand that my skill fighting against such armors and weapons, but not in the skill using things I've never touched! LOL
You gain 0.456 points of heavy armor proficiency.
You gain 0.391 points of light armor proficiency.
You gain 0.456 points of dual wielding proficiency.
You gain 0.456 points of two-handed weapon proficiency.
You gain 0.456 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
You gain 0.096 points of cloth armor proficiency.
You gain 0.183 points of staff proficiency.
You gain 0.205 points of forbidden magic proficiency.
You gain 0.176 points of divine magic proficiency.
You gain 0.152 points of elemental magic proficiency.
You gain 0.179 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
You gain 0.112 points of supportive magic proficiency.
With the light of a new dawn, your experience in all things increases.
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post Sep 8 2018, 05:34
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How could I fight against the Rings of Blind map:
Triple Trio And The Tree?
I just find the drogon(or gragon) is too op! what could I do ?
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post Sep 8 2018, 06:11
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Just use the lowest difficulty. Otherwhise just get stronger. Level up. Get better equipment. Or soulfuse your equipment. Upgrade your equipment. Use the correct support spells. The usual stuff.

And just in case you didnt notice. Yggdrasil does heal the trio. So kill him first.

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post Sep 8 2018, 06:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 8 2018, 06:11) *

Just use the lowest difficulty. Otherwhise just get stronger. Level up. Get better equipment. Or soulfuse your equipment. Upgrade your equipment. Use the correct support spells. The usual stuff.

And just in case you didnt notice. Yggdrasil does heal the trio. So kill him first.

Thanks for your answer. I want get more help
I actually select the normal mode. The beginning is fine.The problem arised when 4 monsters is alive, the dragon could damages me(lie SP skills or ult) with 80 percent of my totally health in subsequently>5 turns, and then I died with all my spirits potion in CD.
Did dragon used hie skills infinitely. Or how could I broken his behavior which damages my 80percent health per turn?
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post Sep 8 2018, 07:20
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QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 7 2018, 22:57) *

Did dragon used hie skills infinitely. Or how could I broken his behavior which damages my 80percent health per turn?


Check out the deprecating spells. You can stop monsters using special attacks for a while with a silence spell or lower damage significantly with weaken spell. Check out supporting spells - spirit shield, which reduces some damage for the cost of your spirit, spark of life - it lets you survive deathblow once for the cost of the spell and significant amount of spirit.
Then again all the things Uncle said.

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post Sep 8 2018, 07:20
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Okay, let us search for the reason why you are so weak. What playstyle and what equipment do you use?

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post Sep 8 2018, 09:30
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QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 8 2018, 05:34) *

How could I fight against the Rings of Blind map:
Triple Trio And The Tree?
I just find the drogon(or gragon) is too op! what could I do ?

Correction: dragging the combat for too many rounds makes any of the monsters Op. Even the hilarious wimps known as goddesses. BTW, kill the goddesses last: you don't want the entire party to get a buff every time you take down a goddess.
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post Sep 8 2018, 10:18
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QUOTE(Lostwizard @ Sep 7 2018, 16:53) *

Normally I enter GF with >40 stamina (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) , that time I just have an idea similar with yours: I want to try OFC in mage style. But I don't want to smack monster so I used 2 EDs in battle instead.

i already saw you somewhere...
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post Sep 8 2018, 10:54
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 8 2018, 08:18) *

i already saw you somewhere...

oh hi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 8 2018, 12:05
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 8 2018, 10:18) *

i already saw you somewhere...


Hm, i havent found something about that in the wiki but i am quite sure you two know each other.

QUOTE(Lostwizard @ Sep 8 2018, 10:54) *


No one should use SoL. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 8 2018, 13:19
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Sep 7 2018, 23:49) *

Yea this is stupid: I get 4 times the proficiency for stuff I've never done!
No it isn't stupid, it is just WRONG!
I could understand that my skill fighting against such armors and weapons, but not in the skill using things I've never touched! LOL


Stop being stupid, we talked about this before.
here, read more about proficiency exp and growth
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=208589
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Gains

QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 8 2018, 11:57) *

Thanks for your answer. I want get more help
I actually select the normal mode. The beginning is fine.The problem arised when 4 monsters is alive, the dragon could damages me(lie SP skills or ult) with 80 percent of my totally health in subsequently>5 turns, and then I died with all my spirits potion in CD.
Did dragon used hie skills infinitely. Or how could I broken his behavior which damages my 80percent health per turn?


there's also an option to forget about it until you reach higher level, maybe come back at level 300 or something - which should be very soon as you have GS and reaching lvl 300 is pretty quick, it will get much more easier.
else, if you insist on taking on them as soon as possible, as uncle stu said, let's talk about your playstyle (1h/2h/dw/mage) and equipment.
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post Sep 8 2018, 14:04
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 8 2018, 09:30) *

Correction: dragging the combat for too many rounds makes any of the monsters Op. Even the hilarious wimps known as goddesses. BTW, kill the goddesses last: you don't want the entire party to get a buff every time you take down a goddess.

I'm actually dragging for too mang times , I think u are right. Thk!

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 8 2018, 07:20) *

Okay, let us search for the reason why you are so weak. What playstyle and what equipment do you use?

I think I am dragging a lot , the following is my states
Statistics
Mages, focus on elementry skills
Fighting Style
Staff (crushing)
35 % Coalesced Mana on spell hit
Magical Attack
magic base damage 1877
hit chance 162.9 %
crit chance 31.8 % / +50 % damage
mana cost modifier 100 %
cast speed bonus 8.7 %
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hp 8970
mp 1486 (+39 magic regen per tick)
sp 376 (+5 spirit regen per tick)
Defense 46.3% physical mitigation
50.7% magical mitigation
33.5 % evade chance
0 % block chance
2.6 % parry chance
43.6 % resist chance
Compromise
0 interference
6.5 burden
Specific Mitigation
fire 15.5%
cold 15.0%
dark 21.7%
crushing 7.5%

Spell Damage Bonus
fire 13.8
cold 38.0
holy 28.3
dark 65.9
Effective Primary Stats
Str 65 End 277
Dex 66 Int 537
Agi 355 Wis 578
Effective Proficiency
staff 290
cloth armor 290
elemental 400
divine 271
forbidden 228
deprecating 231
supportive 432
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post Sep 8 2018, 14:25
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QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 8 2018, 15:17) *

Mages, focus on elementry skills


Rising of the rainbow mages? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Sep 8 2018, 14:30
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QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 8 2018, 05:34) *

How could I fight against the Rings of Blind map:
Triple Trio And The Tree?
I just find the drogon(or gragon) is too op! what could I do ?


I beat it when I was lv.220 (@ normal) at first try, not a problem, just a bit long.

I used 1H style, with reasonably meh equipment. Cast Regen first thing (you should have at least Protect in IA1 already, possibly SS in IA2 too).
Then, as Uncle and others says, cast sleep and/or silence on the stronger monsters, and cut away asap the others.
Now you should remain with the strongers ones only alive, but still silenced or sleeping, and quite a bit of OC.

Starting from Yggdrasil, that must be dealt with first, imperil and attack, and when you have enough OC use OFC (it helps a lot).

After Yggdrasil is gone, the others cannot regenerate their health.

Hope this helps you, bye (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Edit : Edit : I doubt you will beat it with mage style for a while still, unless you have top notch equip, forged and IWed, and IA3 and possibly some mage perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Sep 8 2018, 14:35
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Sep 8 2018, 14:30) *

I beat it when I was lv.220 (@ normal) at first try, not a problem, just a bit long.

I used 1H style, with reasonably meh equipment. Cast Regen first thing (you should have at least Protect in IA1 already, possibly SS in IA2 too).
Then, as Uncle and others says, cast sleep and/or silence on the stronger monsters, and cut away asap the others.
Now you should remain with the strongers ones only alive, but still silenced or sleeping, and quite a bit of OC.

Starting from Yggdrasil, that must be dealt with first, imperil and attack, and when you have enough OC use OFC (it helps a lot).

After Yggdrasil is gone, the others cannot regenerate their health.

Hope this helps you, bye (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks for your anewer . But I am talking about rings of blood rather arena.

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 8 2018, 14:25) *

Rising of the rainbow mages? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Haha1 Yes , I am rainbow mages , depend on what equipments I have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 8 2018, 14:41
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 8 2018, 19:25) *

Rising of the rainbow mages? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


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fire 13.8
cold 38.0
holy 28.3
dark 65.9


with more edb on dark than on the 4 elements

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and that's your problem, you mage at lvl 250. most people will say don't to maging until late lvl 300-ish, or at the earliest 310 when your imperil have no more cooldown
the reason is survivability as mage have low health, low damage mitigation, and only resist, evasion, with small number of parry for damage negation.

if you wants to make mage work efficiently, then specialize on one element., make something like near or more than 200% on one element and whatever on the rest.
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post Sep 8 2018, 17:20
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 8 2018, 14:41) *

with more edb on dark than on the 4 elements

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and that's your problem, you mage at lvl 250. most people will say don't to maging until late lvl 300-ish, or at the earliest 310 when your imperil have no more cooldown
the reason is survivability as mage have low health, low damage mitigation, and only resist, evasion, with small number of parry for damage negation.

if you wants to make mage work efficiently, then specialize on one element., make something like near or more than 200% on one element and whatever on the rest.

Thank! I 'm now doing what u suggested!
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post Sep 8 2018, 17:55
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QUOTE(Ming28561 @ Sep 8 2018, 14:35) *

Thanks for your anewer . But I am talking about rings of blood rather arena.


My bad, I got confused with Trio & Tree in Arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I stand corrected.

QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 8 2018, 14:41) *

and that's your problem, you mage at lvl 250. most people will say don't to maging until late lvl 300-ish, or at the earliest 310 when your imperil have no more cooldown
the reason is survivability as mage have low health, low damage mitigation, and only resist, evasion, with small number of parry for damage negation.

if you wants to make mage work efficiently, then specialize on one element., make something like near or more than 200% on one element and whatever on the rest.


Maging on normal/hard difficulty is quite possible, even if certainly not the easiest thing to do.

Specializing in just one element can be tricky at this level thou', 'cause you don't usually have a wide choice of equipments to wear, and often you have to compromise (like, a better one but not suited to my element, or one suited but less good overall?)

IMO rainbow is OK, just stick to the four elements (and eventually just a couple if possible) and avoid Dark/Divine, if you have good Phase to enhance Spell Damage it's better, but a couple of good plain cotton of the Elementalist give you a great boost in Prof and are cheap to forge up (while Shade is impossibly dear, what with Phazons' price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

Just my two cents (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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