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Jul 16 2018, 02:39
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 15 2018, 09:25)  => Super messed up somewhere, and the percentages displayed in my auctions are correct.
Some time ago we discussed if the percentage scripts should include bugged values that were only recorded post-patch and then never again. The majority decided not to for obvious reasons (it's not very helpful if every new equipment dropped ranges from 30 to 100). Found the discussion, it was about auctions and started from this post. Probably Jenga's server doesn't have any of the bugged equips or suspicious values (old equipments with values that are a lot lower than the minimum recorded) are discarded. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Jul 16 2018, 02:48
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Jul 16 2018, 08:24
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KitsuneAbby
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Ah yes, I didn't remember that. But then I'm going to ask: why are those wiki values still there?
It's true that some ranges do feel like overlapping a bit too much, within the power of protection/warding ADB categories at least. In the meantime, I have absolutely no way to use Live Percentile for my auctions: it all depends on Toolbox.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 16 2018, 08:56
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Jul 16 2018, 09:25
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 16 2018, 08:24)  Ah yes, I didn't remember that. But then I'm going to ask: why are those wiki values still there?
No idea, but it probably didn't seem right to remove a min value without knowing if it was a roll bug or not. Still, If Jenga's database gets a lot of equips scanned it should be easy to check the distribution of rolls to see which values are real and which one were bugged.
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Jul 16 2018, 12:41
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Cleavs
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i remind you that wiki values are updated by chipp. since he doesn't lurk the forum too much, he may not have recieved the memo...
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Jul 16 2018, 18:31
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-Daiki-
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jul 15 2018, 18:26)  That is not the latest version, update it to -> 1.2.1In that new version leg ranges is the default, so you don't need to set it manually. Thank you, the stat this script's version show is the same as Auction' stat (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) May I ask this: If an item have both forged and Item World, the ADB stat the Auction and this script show is Unforged and un-IW stat, or only unforged stats ?
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Jul 16 2018, 20:39
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jplshejeser
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 16 2018, 05:35)  Yes it does work that way.
Whether the strike is innate to the weapon or drom an infusion, a Holy Strike will benefit from the Holy Imperil ability. Same goes for a Dark Strike benefits from the Dark Imperil ability, and all other element strikes profit from the Better Imperil (it has innate elemental mit reduction). To top it off, all strikes (which includes Void Strike) will benefit from the PMit reduction.
In the end, your Holy Strike will deal way more damage both thanks to both the PMit debuff and the Holy Mit debuff. If anything, I'd recommend every melee player to have both Holy Imperil and Dark imperil maxed out on top of Better Imperil, so that their elemental strikes reach their maximum strength on imperiled monsters.
oh tnak you so much and sire, what the about the holy imperil icon?, does that show on the imperiled monsters onyou ttoo>? because it doesnt apper on my hentaiverse or maybe im using
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Jul 16 2018, 20:44
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Jul 16 2018, 18:31)  May I ask this: If an item have both forged and Item World, the ADB stat the Auction and this script show is Unforged and un-IW stat, or only unforged stats ?
It shows the actuall base stats. Neither iw nor forging does change the base stat itself.
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Jul 16 2018, 21:19
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Jul 16 2018, 20:39)  oh tnak you so much and sire, what the about the holy imperil icon?, does that show on the imperiled monsters onyou ttoo>?
because it doesnt apper on my hentaiverse or maybe im using
No, it doesn't appear on monsters. It's included within the effects of Imperil, just like all the other effects linked to imperil.
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Jul 16 2018, 21:52
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jplshejeser
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 17 2018, 03:19)  No, it doesn't appear on monsters. It's included within the effects of Imperil, just like all the other effects linked to imperil.
oh thank ,mch
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Jul 17 2018, 00:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 16 2018, 20:44)  It shows the actuall base stats. Neither iw nor forging does change the base stat itself.
actually they do, otherwise there wouldn't be the need to calculate the vanilla stat. but the reverse calculation algorithm is made so it gets rid of these effects and show that vanilla.
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Jul 17 2018, 00:16
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 17 2018, 00:09)  actually they do, otherwise there wouldn't be the need to calculate the vanilla stat. but the reverse calculation algorithm is made so it gets rid of these effects and show that vanilla.
My rapier was 99% when he did drop. He was 99% after i made my IW, he is 99% now after 80 damage upgrades. X is X and stays X even when W + Y + X = Z. Z does care about IW (W). Z does care about Upgrades (Y). But X dont care at all. Vanilla you could think that X does change. But that is a mistake, because vanila we dont actually see X we see Z. But we think we would see X. Because without IW and Upgrades the whole formula is just X = Z. But that is no longer true when we add W and Y to the calculation. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jul 17 2018, 00:16
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Jul 17 2018, 02:17
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sssss2
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jul 16 2018, 03:26)  That is not the latest version, update it to -> 1.2.1In that new version leg ranges is the default, so you don't need to set it manually. QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Jul 17 2018, 01:31)  Thank you, the stat this script's version show is the same as Auction' stat (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) May I ask this: If an item have both forged and Item World, the ADB stat the Auction and this script show is Unforged and un-IW stat, or only unforged stats ? If you mean Percentile_Ranges_1.2.1, that's outdated. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jun 28 2017, 17:00)  Percentile_Ranges_1.2.1.user.js.txt
This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Jun 28 2017, 17:02
The latest equip comparison script is Live_Percentile_RangesQUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2018, 20:28)  Live_Percentile_Ranges_1.1.0.user.js.txt
This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Jan 21 2018, 10:39
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Jul 17 2018, 04:30
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Xythy
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jul 16 2018, 19:17)  If you mean Percentile_Ranges_1.2.1, that's outdated. The latest equip comparison script is Live_Percentile_RangesOh! I thought that those were two different scripts and that 1.2.1 was the one being used in HV toolbox (since it's listed right bellow HVT entry). Iirc I got the link from the script report thread (first post). Maybe it would be a good idea to add a note to let users know that PR is deprecated since the difference in names make things a little confusing. In any case I stand corrected.
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Jul 17 2018, 09:32
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Lunarika
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How long is Dance with Dragons on PFUDOR supposed to take for 1h? About an hour?
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Jul 17 2018, 10:00
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chjj30
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QUOTE(3534 @ Jul 17 2018, 14:16)  Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destructionis it worth to continue upgrade forged? thank you~ If you don't plan to change it to a better one in a short time, just forge it, e.g. 50 or 70 MDB. When you get a new one, just salvage it and you get 90% Materials back.
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Jul 17 2018, 10:24
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Paff444
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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 17 2018, 11:02)  How long is Dance with Dragons on PFUDOR supposed to take for 1h? About an hour?
Much less, even with my non-forged non-slaughter set it used to take a bit less than 30 minutes, including orbital cannon of course.
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Jul 17 2018, 10:26
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PersonaFan08
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How many pony figurines are there in hentaiverse?
This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jul 17 2018, 10:45
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Jul 17 2018, 10:50
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jul 17 2018, 15:26)  How many pony figurines are there in hentaiverse?
27? https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#CollectablesI'm thinking about returning to play HV (oh the horror), but I found all my script not working, I guess it's because of the patch where 10b switch to json or something? any suggestion for some new must have script? mousemelee/hoverplay-like and such. other than monsterbation pack. also, what's will all these masteries profficiencies? [ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/BzLwptX.pngThis post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jul 17 2018, 11:27
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Jul 17 2018, 13:20
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Noni
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jul 17 2018, 10:50)  27? https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#CollectablesI'm thinking about returning to play HV (oh the horror), but I found all my script not working, I guess it's because of the patch where 10b switch to json or something? any suggestion for some new must have script? mousemelee/hoverplay-like and such. other than monsterbation pack. also, what's will all these masteries profficiencies? [ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/BzLwptX.pngPlease use Monsterbation. Since the patch, there is much more clear on what is allowed and what is considered botting. Monsterbation is exactly the maximum level of automation that is allowed. Please, don't play Russian roulette with your account. We can't be sure, but there are stories about players getting banned without understanding why, and they were using another script than Monsterbation. In the end, only Admin knos why players get banned, but it appears that there are bad scripts out there. If you need help getting the settings of Monsterbation right, many experts can offer help.
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