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post May 16 2018, 07:46
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Is there a point imperil monsters / schoolgirls when you're using ethereal?
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post May 16 2018, 07:52
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QUOTE(fallenstar11 @ May 16 2018, 07:46) *

Is there a point imperil monsters / schoolgirls when you're using ethereal?

I definitively feel the difference, penetrated armour works too.
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post May 16 2018, 07:54
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I definitively feel the difference, penetrated armour works too.


Ah thanks, yeah i noticed a slightly boosts.
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post May 16 2018, 08:13
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Is there a point imperil monsters / schoolgirls when you're using ethereal?

Ethereal will be mitigated by their Physical Mitigation and Void mitigation.
If you take a non-ethereal non-IW10 rapier, its damage type will be Piercing, which will be mitigated by Physical Mitigation and Piercing mitigation.

The only actual difference is that while some SGs have Piercing Mitigation (Konata +25%, Ryouko +50%, Yuki +50%) and only one doesn't (Mikuru -1%), all of them have a Void mitigation of 0%. That explains the global higher output against them when using an Ethereal weapon.

Howeever, if they have 0% Void mitigation, they still have their physical mitigation that reduces the amount of damage they take from an ethereal melee weapon. So reducing that PMit with either Penetrated Armor or Imperil will increase the damage they take even further.

There is still one more way to increase your damage output against them: additional elemental strikes (IW10, infusions). Please do note that the SGs elemental mitigations do kick in against a melee weapon's elemental strikes, so keep in mind that if Penetrated Armor reduces PMit, it doesn't reduce elemental mitigations. While Imperil does reduce both PMit and EMit. That's why it still could be a good idea to use Imperil even while playing a Rapier.
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post May 16 2018, 08:22
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Ethereal will be mitigated by their Physical Mitigation and Void mitigation.

Thank you for clarify. it's clear now. and here i was.. thought the boosted up from imperil was caused because void considered magic. ^ ^
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post May 16 2018, 16:47
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QUOTE(Bedbin @ May 16 2018, 00:56) *

The latest auction has some equipments around your level and below, as long as its level is not too low compared to your current level it's still not a bad idea to buy, a 250 level Mag Power would be just fine as well for example. There's also his WTS, in case you can't find the thing you're looking for in Auctions. About shield, I recommend installing Live Percentile Ranges to compare your current shield to another one to see if block chance is better or not, though I think any force shield will be better than your current one.

Yeah...I tried that script, but I had hard time understanding it. Should I just look for items with higher percentage and IW/forge it? Because I have never done either of them...
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post May 16 2018, 17:05
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 16 2018, 16:47) *

Yeah...I tried that script, but I had hard time understanding it. Should I just look for items with higher percentage and IW/forge it? Because I have never done either of them...

The percentage is how it compares to others items of the same type.
100% is better than all of them, 75% is better than 3/4 of them, 50% is better/worse than half, 25% is worse than 3/4 of them, 0% is worse than all of them.

But it seems that even 0% is better than anything non-legendary, except lucky Magnificent rolls maybe, and even then only for one or two of the stats.

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post May 16 2018, 19:21
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QUOTE(Enatcon @ May 16 2018, 15:05) *

But it seems that even 0% is better than anything non-legendary, except lucky Magnificent rolls maybe, and even then only for one or two of the stats.


There's actually quite a bit of overlap between different quality gear in most cases. 0% is only the lowest known, 100% is the highest known. The only thing we can be absolutely certain about is the highest possible for Legendary because of Peerless quality existing.
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post May 16 2018, 20:16
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QUOTE(Enatcon @ May 16 2018, 17:05) *

But it seems that even 0% is better than anything non-legendary, except lucky Magnificent rolls maybe, and even then only for one or two of the stats.

Wrong. The percentages shown in my auctions or my shops are the percentage inside the Legendary range, so you can clearly see that there are actually quite a lot of Magnificent equips that do have higher stat than the weakest legendary in that stat. The most impressive ones I've seen so far are Magnificent Power non-Slaughter that can reach as high as 60% ADB. Even a few Exquisites find themselves in that legendary range.
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post May 16 2018, 22:28
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What's the most efficient way to upgrade/unlocking potencies for high-quality equips in the Item World? You've got 60-100 rounds for Magnificent-Peerless equips (I'm only assuming it's 100 rounds for peerless, since it's 60 for mags, and 80 for legends), play at low difficulties and you'll get peanuts for PXP, you'll have to play like 8 times just to get one potency tier (Hell-Nintendo).

Play at high difficulties (IWBTH-PFUDOR), and it takes forever to do, especially when you're a low-level player like me. It legit took me 1 hour to clear a single Item World gauntlet on PFUDOR for a legendary, it's baffling, not at all efficient.

So, is there a more efficient way to go about this? And if there isn't, what can I do to make it more so? I wish there was a skill you could train to get more PXP, boy would that be great.


You can pay people to do it for you, look for IW service in WTS section.

Or else, most efficient way is to first get a better equipment set, so you can manage higher difficulty.
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post May 16 2018, 22:30
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 16 2018, 20:28) *

You can pay people to do it for you, look for IW service in WTS section.

Or else, most efficient way is to first get a better equipment set, so you can manage higher difficulty.


Noted, thanks.
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post May 17 2018, 07:32
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From the pics above, i got the summary of my battle, i'm using 1h-power, but i dealt magical damage. What kind of magic damage? Because i used no elemental/dark/holy, or maybe the spike shield that read as magical attack? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 17 2018, 07:42
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 17 2018, 07:32) *

or maybe the spike shield that read as magical attack?

that is correct, it separates spike damage from elemental strikes

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post May 17 2018, 07:56
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QUOTE(sickentide @ May 17 2018, 12:42) *

that is correct


Great.., thank you very much..
And i'm sorry if asked it in wrong thread.. (maybe?)
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post May 17 2018, 16:29
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What much of difference does void damage make comparing to other damage types? I wonder if I should spend 500k on this one and soulful it?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141117539/316ca4ba8c

This is what I have right now
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/161559284/f8826724cd
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post May 17 2018, 16:46
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 17 2018, 16:29) *

What much of difference does void damage make comparing to other damage types? I wonder if I should spend 500k on this one and soulful it?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141117539/316ca4ba8c

This is what I have right now
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/161559284/f8826724cd

There's a before and after void.
Simple as that !

Once you go void, you... won't avoid ? Them ? The void weapons ? Erm.

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post May 17 2018, 17:01
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 17 2018, 21:29) *

What much of difference does void damage make comparing to other damage types? I wonder if I should spend 500k on this one and soulful it?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/141117539/316ca4ba8c

This is what I have right now
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/161559284/f8826724cd


I think you shouldn't soulfuse anything below legendary, and at your level you're gonna changing/replacing set pretty fast, so soulfuse is not that worth unless legendary (a good one). And you better search for the slaughter one and do an iw10 to get void damage...

Edit :
My question : i saw several shade arcanists have a good stats out there (in auctions/shops). I think arcanist is somekinda in borderline between mage and light armor, is it possible to use shade arcanist as 1h+mage armor set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 17 2018, 18:02
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 17 2018, 18:01) *

My question : i saw several shade arcanists have a good stats out there (in auctions/shops). I think arcanist is somekinda in borderline between mage and light armor, is it possible to use shade arcanist as 1h+mage armor set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Only on very low level when need as much survivability as possibe, to level prof, even then edb is real tiny so dw would be much better than 1h, since double edb, especially with battlecaster main + nimble offhand (also forging edb is cheap), or maybe even staff could work actually if you go holly/dark (if you can get your hands on low level lhoh, lhkh or ldkf that is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)), since mixing in standard attack (wich adds up both pab+shade adb and mdb from pabs) helps with mana consumption issue. Still, as soon as you're able to survive as 1h cloth, you should immediately switch, its way better even without good cloth gear or forge.
All in all requires good arcanist gear early on +good weapons/staff, i don't think its possible to collect everything in time before 1h mage becomes feasible. Even if you'd get your gear, you're stuck with little prof and trash imperil.
So yea, i couldn't get a staff, did dw arcanist which turned out to be worse than standard dw. Could have been an alright idea back when i first started, since nobody happened to care about arcanist, but two weeks later there already was a competition on auctions, so i ended up wasting too much money for disfunctional build, while low level prof means absolutely nothing: you can easily catch up by just casting one spell every RE.
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post May 17 2018, 18:53
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Edit :
My question : i saw several shade arcanists have a good stats out there (in auctions/shops). I think arcanist is somekinda in borderline between mage and light armor, is it possible to use shade arcanist as 1h+mage armor set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


My Answer is no. I've tried Mage with Satff and Arcanist Set, even with Satff I don't have enough Damage (Even using Staff with Melee Attact deals more Damage than Spells), and 1H-Mage has less Damage than using Staff. It doesn't work and it doesn't worth to try, I think even if you use a Wakizashi Melee Attack can still deal more Damage than Spells.
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post May 17 2018, 20:12
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 17 2018, 17:01) *

I think you shouldn't soulfuse anything below legendary, and at your level you're gonna changing/replacing set pretty fast, so soulfuse is not that worth unless legendary (a good one). And you better search for the slaughter one and do an iw10 to get void damage...

Edit :
My question : i saw several shade arcanists have a good stats out there (in auctions/shops). I think arcanist is somekinda in borderline between mage and light armor, is it possible to use shade arcanist as 1h+mage armor set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So, is it like you are 100% getting void damage at iw10 or is it like random? I just tried it once and I really doubt I can finish a legendary iw.

and at what point should I change to mage or can I go to lv500 as melee?
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