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post May 15 2018, 15:18
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 15 2018, 16:09) *

Having an elemental strike also on the offhand weapon is it useful (i.e. does it get added to the one in the main hand) or not ?

Offhand elemental strikes occur separately if offhand strike procs.
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post May 15 2018, 16:18
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 15 2018, 15:09) *

1) Having an elemental strike also on the offhand weapon is it useful (i.e. does it get added to the one in the main hand) or not ?

Offhand elemental strikes occur separately if offhand strike procs.

aye. this means that if you have, saying, both weapons at IW10 and with a prefix, you'll hit either 6 (if offhand connects) or 3 times (if offhand doesn't connect), counting main, elementals and void strikes

QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 15 2018, 15:09) *

2) I have used Leather with DW (with 2 or 3 shades when possible). Changing to Heavy armour (eventually with 2 or 3 Power) would be better, worse, or just viable ?

personally i prefer all Shade build to take advantage of speed, evade and resist. to use a Power one i guess you should rely on parry and crit even more than with a shade one, but not an expert in this...
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post May 15 2018, 16:57
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 15 2018, 10:09) *

2) I have used Leather with DW (with 2 or 3 shades when possible). Changing to Heavy armour (eventually with 2 or 3 Power) would be better, worse, or just viable ?

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not better, I would stick with light armor
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post May 15 2018, 17:46
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 15 2018, 16:18) *

Offhand elemental strikes occur separately if offhand strike procs.

aye. this means that if you have, saying, both weapons at IW10 and with a prefix, you'll hit either 6 (if offhand connects) or 3 times (if offhand doesn't connect), counting main, elementals and void strikes
personally i prefer all Shade build to take advantage of speed, evade and resist. to use a Power one i guess you should rely on parry and crit even more than with a shade one, but not an expert in this...


I see, thanks to all who replied.

The problem for me is that the first light set I have is better from the PoV of stats, because it's mainly plain Mags, except one Exq and one Leg Shade. But it has lower (79%) Offhand chance.
The second is all shade and has 88% chance, but is worse in stats since it's one Leg, 3 Exq and one Sup (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I was trying both, but could not decide which was best to use. That's why I was willing to try a Heavy set, to improve my tankiness, at least until I can equip better Light pieces at higher level.

As for weapons, Mag Shortword Slaughter for main hand and Mag Rapier Slaughter in offhand. I'm planning to change at least one of them (the shortsword) for a suitable Leg around lv.250 thou'

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post May 15 2018, 18:07
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Does anybody know what the delay is for a monster winning a battle and then bringing you materials? I've seen it before where it'll get a new win in the last day after not winning any for weeks, but I don't get the materials until a little later...
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post May 15 2018, 18:26
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 15 2018, 18:46) *

I see, thanks to all who replied.

The problem for me is that the first light set I have is better from the PoV of stats, because it's mainly plain Mags, except one Exq and one Leg Shade. But it has lower (79%) Offhand chance.
The second is all shade and has 88% chance, but is worse in stats since it's one Leg, 3 Exq and one Sup (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I was trying both, but could not decide which was best to use. That's why I was willing to try a Heavy set, to improve my tankiness, at least until I can equip better Light pieces at higher level.

As for weapons, Mag Shortword Slaughter for main hand and Mag Rapier Slaughter in offhand. I'm planning to change at least one of them (the shortsword) for a suitable Leg around lv.250 thou'

Thanks again to everyone who sent PMs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


1) If you still have any plate or leather in your build its probably time to change these out for power or shade.
2) Shade is for tanking, power is for additional damage.
3) Some say power doesn't go well with dw, because its not tanky enough, but i'd like to remind that with dedicated nimble rapier in the offhand it isn't hard to push yourself over 70% parry, with minimal adb loss (and nimble rapier is much cheaper than slaughter one anyway). Also power of protection isn't that expensive too, while giving decent survivability boost and still having wayyy more damage bonus than shade ever could. Just don't forget about haste+shadow veil.
4) With shade story is a bit more complicated:If you need more survivability, then its pretty easy to get enough with shade, however after some time you'll try to increase your damage output and... well... with shade its a curve that only gets steeper. Despite DW being the best chance to get most out of crit chance/crit damage of savage shadowdancer with two weapon crit chance and probably fatality on both weapons, i still don't see it outdamaging power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 15 2018, 19:43
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Between this staff
Peerless Arctic Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
and this staff
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which one is better?
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post May 15 2018, 20:16
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I'd go for the Niflheim, I think
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post May 15 2018, 20:18
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ May 15 2018, 12:07) *
Does anybody know what the delay is for a monster winning a battle and then bringing you materials? I've seen it before where it'll get a new win in the last day after not winning any for weeks, but I don't get the materials until a little later...

A monster can give gifts up to once per hour.


Does 1h rapier really outperform shortsword in high+forged gear?

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post May 15 2018, 21:08
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Automatic play?
No, I have used a few of scripts, but they are ordinary things. (Riddle Limiter, Spell Spam, REClicker, etc...)

Just by the name these scripts stink the forbidden automation from miles away...
I don't see any of those scripts in the wiki nor in any of our stickies, so there's absolutely no guarantee that they're legit.

To top that off, ignorance won't be a valid excuse for using these scripts, as players are thoroughly warned that any script that hasn't been approved by the mods isn't guaranteed to be allowed to use. We don't even need/want to know if you found them on these forums, there is no way we can make a full list of what's OK and what isn't ue to the ludicrous amount of posts in the related threads.
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post May 15 2018, 22:12
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Riddle Limiter and Spell Spam are old, pre-monsterbation scripts https://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Scripts_...amp;oldid=46291
Don't remember REClicker but it probably opens half-hourlies from gallery pages back when people complained about missing them all the time. Either way it's probably a bad idea to use old scripts since the current ones are heavily vetted and have their own threads, though I still don't see the point when these same scripts make it impossible to die.

Unless you played for 3 days straight or shared or used multiple accounts in some way, one of those """etc""" scripts earned you das boot.
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post May 15 2018, 22:33
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Enough speculation, guys. Let it rest now, okay? And don't believe every sad story you read on the internet.
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post May 15 2018, 22:39
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 15 2018, 21:08) *

Just by the name these scripts stink the forbidden automation from miles away...
I don't see any of those scripts in the wiki nor in any of our stickies, so there's absolutely no guarantee that they're legit.

QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 15 2018, 22:12) *

Riddle Limiter and Spell Spam are old, pre-monsterbation scripts https://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Scripts_...amp;oldid=46291
Don't remember REClicker but it probably opens half-hourlies from gallery pages back when people complained about missing them all the time.

aye. as i wrote him in a pm, spellspam *used* to be used - now monsterbation took its place. riddle limiter (or a fix, don't know exactly) it's still used. as for REClicker, not sure, but it may be something to make answers clickable. one of those things for hardcore players who don't like to waste two seconds of their life...

oh, and this:
QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 15 2018, 22:12) *

it's probably a bad idea to use old scripts since the current ones are heavily vetted and have their own threads, though I still don't see the point when these same scripts make it impossible to die.

Unless you played for 3 days straight or shared or used multiple accounts in some way, one of those """etc""" scripts earned you das boot.


QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 15 2018, 22:33) *

Enough speculation, guys. Let it rest now, okay? And don't believe every sad story you read on the internet.

and this too. i moved discussion to PM for this reason. now, if he cares to answer my pm, feel free. otherwise, well... we know, right?
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post May 16 2018, 00:12
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I wonder what should I do to get to higher difficulty or clear the arena more efficiently.

Because right now I can do hell easy, but in Nintendo, some monster can crit me with over 9+ dmg and plus other monsters attack which in result kills me in one turn.

Should I just have spirit shield and spark of life up for the whole time? Because I have all 5 auto-cast unlocked, but it seems like it's costing quite a lot of mana.

Or should I change my gear? According to the wiki I should have the power set, but it provides much less damage mitigation than normal ones, is offense best defense?

Or should I change to Mage now?

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post May 16 2018, 00:27
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I wonder what should I do to get to higher difficulty or clear the arena more efficiently.


When I was around lv250, I could already clean all on IWBTH, and the first two schoolgirl Arena on PFD. You should check if you have the correct abilities already. Spark of light, spirit shield, protection always up, and haste and shadow veil if needed(usually low-level player might need haste). Mana issue? Use your draughts and potions. Cast weaken or silence if needed.
Generally, 1H has the best survivability at low level. You should go for full powers. buy power of protection or warding and maybe a better rapier.
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post May 16 2018, 00:28
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 15 2018, 22:12) *

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Your armor is quite lagging behind for your level, you shouldn't be using even Exquisite around 275, let alone Superior. Get some Mag Powers. Preferably change your shield with a Force one, too. Also, your agility is too high for 1H Heavy, I recommend subtracting 50 points or so.

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post May 16 2018, 00:36
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QUOTE(Bedbin @ May 16 2018, 00:28) *

Your armor is quite lagging behind for your level, you shouldn't be using even Exquisite around 275, let alone Superior. Get some Mag Powers. Preferably change your shield with a Force one, too. Also, your agility is too high for 1H Heavy, I recommend subtracting 50 points or so.

Thank you for respons. But where should I get those equipments? Most of the things in evils auction are around 300 or plus which will take quite a while for me to reach that level. And about that shield, that one have 37% block chance, which is best one I have seen so far, how much should I aiming for?
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post May 16 2018, 00:37
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 16 2018, 05:12) *

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If you have that many credits, why not change your whole set to magnificent-legendary? Buy magnificent or legendary rapier of slaughter, force shield, and set of power armor of protection/warding that not so expensive. But don't fuse them, because you're gonna change rapidly at your level. For low level, you can check decondelite shop or auction (next auction i think, because #24 had ended)...
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post May 16 2018, 00:53
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Exq Power should still be enough at Lvl300. Maybe not for IWBTH or PFUDOR, but still very decent.
A full Magnificent Power set usually comes slightly a bit after Lvl300. Back then I had mine around Lvl310 or so.
Keep in mind that it's not everyone who has the luck/money to have a full set before Lvl300, and that at Lvl275 neither IWBTH nor PFUDOR are the difficulty you're looking for.
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Thank you for respons. But where should I get those equipments? Most of the things in evils auction are around 300 or plus which will take quite a while for me to reach that level. And about that shield, that one have 37% block chance, which is best one I have seen so far, how much should I aiming for?

The latest auction has some equipments around your level and below, as long as its level is not too low compared to your current level it's still not a bad idea to buy, a 250 level Mag Power would be just fine as well for example. There's also his WTS, in case you can't find the thing you're looking for in Auctions. About shield, I recommend installing Live Percentile Ranges to compare your current shield to another one to see if block chance is better or not, though I think any force shield will be better than your current one.
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