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post May 8 2018, 14:01
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 8 2018, 18:00) *

1h mage is fun and exotic. Shouldn't work, but works nonetheless. You might want to try it: find a good elemental (not holy/dark) waki of the battlecaster and a high block buckler of the barrier. Rest phase of the matching element


Is it possible if 1h mage using rapier of battlecaster? i saw a good one (i think) in this week's auction...

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Oh yeah, i got a another question. Intelligence affects amount cured by cure, or affect the penetrating chance of debuff for some reason, or some other hidden mechanic not shown in the wiki ?
Having an intelligence of 0 is no trouble whatsoever for a melee character ? ( On the battlefield at least )


INT is for magic damage, cure is affected by supportive prof... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 8 2018, 14:17
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QUOTE(Enatcon @ May 8 2018, 04:12) *

Seems fun, reminds me of my archmage using a shield in tales of maj'eyal.
That thing was unkillable.
Still, i want to Musashi my way through the hordes.
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Oh yeah, i got a another question. Intelligence affects amount cured by cure, or affect the penetrating chance of debuff for some reason, or some other hidden mechanic not shown in the wiki ?
Having an intelligence of 0 is no trouble whatsoever for a melee character ? ( On the battlefield at least )

When you use squidward sword, don't forget to shout "hissatsu!!!"... or something.
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post May 8 2018, 14:52
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 8 2018, 14:01) *

Is it possible if 1h mage using rapier of battlecaster? i saw a good one (i think) in this week's auction...

aim for waki if possible. apart for lower BUR, it also has higher parry, DEX and AGI

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When you use squidward sword, don't forget to shout "hissatsu!!!"... or something.

... was it "metsu" or "messatsu", perhaps?
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post May 8 2018, 14:56
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 8 2018, 20:01) *

Is it possible if 1h mage using rapier of battlecaster? i saw a good one (i think) in this week's auction...


Yes, you can, but to this Point I think Shortsword is better than Rapier, because they have the same Parry but Shortsword has higher Damage, which affects the OFC.
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post May 8 2018, 15:00
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ May 8 2018, 14:56) *

Yes, you can, but to this Point I think Shortsword is better than Rapier, because they have the same Parry but Shortsword has higher Damage, which affects the OFC.

does a 1h mage need OFC? i never understood it...
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post May 8 2018, 15:04
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 8 2018, 16:00) *

does a 1h mage need OFC? i never understood it...

1h mage gets free OC for counters, so you might as well spend it.
EDIT: toggle spirit helps with mana conservation but doesn't increase your damage, focus makes you super vulnerable while defend is imo a waste of turn.

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post May 8 2018, 15:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 8 2018, 21:00) *

does a 1h mage need OFC? i never understood it...


I also don't think about it, before kyouri told me this:

QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 29 2018, 14:21) *

Nimble waki > Buckler of Barrier otherwise you will have mana issues too. I can clear 1h pfest in just over 10k~ turns with DD V. Adding OFC to your rotation improves clear time significantly.


My Test without OFC:

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with OFC:

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t/s ls a little lower, but it saves me about 600 turns, which means less Damage suffered, less Cure and less Potion. And this Result with OFC is before I decide to IW Butcher lv 5 and forge Damage to lv 5 on my Wakizashi, and that Day I'm still don't get used of this Style with OFC, so it may work even better.
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post May 8 2018, 16:05
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 8 2018, 14:30) *

1h mage is fun and exotic. Shouldn't work, but works nonetheless. You might want to try it: find a good elemental (not holy/dark) waki of the battlecaster and a high block buckler of the barrier. Rest phase of the matching element

Why not 1H holy? I thought it would be good because of the 10% damage spell proc? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 8 2018, 16:13
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ May 8 2018, 22:05) *

Why not 1H holy? I thought it would be good because of the 10% damage spell proc? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


I don't recommand holy, because by 1H-Mage, you must use Imperil, so the Breached Defense is not that impoatant. I think Elec is better, because:

1. You can't kill all with one Shot, so the Resist reduction from Deep Burns is useful;
2. And you don't have extra Counter-Resist from your Weapon and can also not get Counter-Resist from Proficiency Bonus from your Weapon.
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post May 8 2018, 16:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 8 2018, 05:52) *

aim for waki if possible. apart for lower BUR, it also has higher parry, DEX and AGI
... was it "metsu" or "messatsu", perhaps?

Never heard of metsu, but messatsu is knownly used by calm ninja. In games anyway.
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post May 8 2018, 16:46
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I'm retarded, which stick is better for my holy mage, the one with a high prof bonus or the one with spell damage?
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post May 8 2018, 17:40
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ May 8 2018, 16:05) *

Why not 1H holy? I thought it would be good because of the 10% damage spell proc? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

because higher cost, i guess.

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Never heard of metsu, but messatsu is knownly used by calm ninja. In games anyway.

basically, akuma uses them when about to deal you the killing blow on street fighter.
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post May 8 2018, 21:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 8 2018, 18:05) *

2H and niten have two options: shade and power. if you want to go for shade path, then BUR as low as possible is still preferrable. maybe a bit less urgent because of splash damage, don't know. it's been a while since i last tried.

as for power, i suppose feathering at least a couple of your armors won't hurt. either way, you won't be able to negate *all* the burden, so...

will 2h except mace and niten be too vulnerable using power?
or they use many debuff to matain health?
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post May 8 2018, 21:53
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Not only its hard to spend so much mana with 1h holy, it also has only 25 mitg reduction in imperil. Because it doesnt have sense to collect prof without staff, it makes holy at best to have same clearspeed. But im pretty sure its gonna be slower than elemental.
I d use it with elec, because it makes quite simple reroll to the best imperil style with willow.

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post May 9 2018, 00:09
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New holy gear and a [alt.hentaiverse.org] gift from the ristorante nel cielo gave me these results for iwbth dwd:
3710 turns, 24:05, 2.568 t/s
I could probably skip casting weaken on the 3-girl rounds, but I don't think that will save four whole minutes, if any since I needed to heal like hell for the few rounds I tried it. Actually, 37 3-girl rounds at 3 weakens each at 2.5 t/s is about 45 seconds to be saved in a perfect heal-less spark-less world. One gum used against 1-girl rounds unfortunately, but I had good luck with 3-girl placement so it only cost me maybe 30 seconds. Still far from getting me to a 20 minute run. I need 3.1 t/s to get 20 with the same turn count, so is more damage the only option left?
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post May 9 2018, 04:02
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QUOTE(Garde9 @ May 8 2018, 14:46) *

I'm retarded, which stick is better for my holy mage, the one with a high prof bonus or the one with spell damage?
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Well, I'd personally recommend you use neither and switch to Melee. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But between these two, I think Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall is better as the other one has Demonic prefix, which doesn't do fit to Holy Mage. I'm not a Mage though, so take this with a grain of salt. Also, as a rule of thumb, this chart is good to see if your staff is any decent or not, from f4t4l's thread:

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Fire: higher tier: Fiery Redwood of Destruction; Fiery Redwood of Surtr
       lower tier: Fiery Redwood of Elementalist
Cold: higher tier: Arctic Redwood of Destruction; Arctic Redwood of Niflheim
       lower tier: Arctic Redwood of Elementalist
Wind: higher tier: Tempestuous Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Destruction; Tempestuous Redwood of Freyr
       lower tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Elementalist
Elec: higher tier: Shocking Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Shocking Redwood of Destruction; Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir
       lower tier: Shocking Redwood of Elementalist
Holy: higher tier: Hallowed Oak of Heimdall
         mid tier: Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall; Hallowed Katalox of Destruction;
       lower tier: Hallowed Katalox of the Heaven-sent
Dark: higher tier: Demonic Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Demonic Katalox of Fenrir; Demonic Katalox of Destruction
       lower tier: Demonic Katalox of the Demon-fiend
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post May 9 2018, 06:09
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ May 8 2018, 19:56) *

Yes, you can, but to this Point I think Shortsword is better than Rapier, because they have the same Parry but Shortsword has higher Damage, which affects the OFC.


Ah.., if only there's "Legendary Charged Power xxx of xxx" to add the adb... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post May 9 2018, 07:48
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 9 2018, 12:09) *

Ah.., if only there's "Legendary Charged Power xxx of xxx" to add the adb... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


If this one also adds your EDB and MDB, yes, please use it; if not, no, please don't.
I just compare Rapier and Shortsword, but I don't mean that ADB is so important for 1H-Mage that you should use Power instead of Phase.
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post May 9 2018, 09:03
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QUOTE(Bedbin @ May 9 2018, 05:02) *

Well, I'd personally recommend you use neither and switch to Melee. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But between these two, I think Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall is better as the other one has Demonic prefix, which doesn't do fit to Holy Mage.

Turns out the demon stick was way better since I completely missed the extra ether tap duration. That on top of higher base magic damage and prof across the field made it far superior.
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