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Apr 26 2018, 15:25
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VawX
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 26 2018, 19:53)  not with my build, with only 1 radiant for 1.0 prof factor. I have optimized for imperil play up to now, also because of my not-perferctly-high t/s (2.8 is max achievable for me). I may try with 2 or 3 radiants, but that will take ... about 70m ... to complete. And then, it's probably not faster than imperil play with my t/s. So ... this may not be a good idea.
I'm still not sure what prof factor is. On wiki it's the formula is: prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel Is effective proficiency the one shown on the character page mmm...~?
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Apr 26 2018, 16:41
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balengooo
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Hi all, I'm confused about the stats of some items given from the script that checks the percentile ranges. In the properties of this item [138153186] Magnificent Kite Shield of DeflectionI can see "316, Dex End Agi, BLK 11%", but below there is written: "316, Dex End Agi, Mag ranges: BLK 79%, Pmit 94%, Mmit 85%, Dex 91%, End 101%, Agi 74%, Pier 86%" Can anyone please explain the reason for the big difference in BLK? I suspect that (sadly) the second is overrated and with that all the other good values.... (including that very strange End 101%). Thanks
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Apr 26 2018, 16:53
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quitetanky
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QUOTE(balengooo @ Apr 26 2018, 17:41)  Hi all, I'm confused about the stats of some items given from the script that checks the percentile ranges. In the properties of this item [138153186] Magnificent Kite Shield of DeflectionI can see "316, Dex End Agi, BLK 11%", but below there is written: "316, Dex End Agi, Mag ranges: BLK 79%, Pmit 94%, Mmit 85%, Dex 91%, End 101%, Agi 74%, Pier 86%" Can anyone please explain the reason for the big difference in BLK? I suspect that (sadly) the second is overrated and with that all the other good values.... (including that very strange End 101%). Thanks end 101% is fine, its just this example is better than all others in database. As for difference in blk, well, usually just 'ranges' means 'legendary ranges'. However for non-legendary percentile ranges gives you magnificent range. So blk value is 79% of magnificent range but 11% of legendary range. This post has been edited by quitetanky: Apr 26 2018, 16:53
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Apr 26 2018, 16:59
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
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If you are using HV toolbox, the data provided are obsolete. The percentile ranges, the second ones, give you up-to-date ranges. Sometimes some equips have weird percentages, sometimes due to forging calculations or whatsoever. Just ignore them or you can click send ranges...
opps. yea the percentile does give you ranges respective to your quality as default. So 79% is mag ranges, the 11% is legendary range that HV provides, which is also correct in this case.. Click the percentages and you can adjust to legendary range. For some equips, not all, HV toolbox will have obsolete ranges
Click the ranges, the numbers, you will see send ranges right below where you can adjust your respective ranges
This post has been edited by -vincento-: Apr 26 2018, 17:08
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Apr 26 2018, 16:59
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balengooo
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Thank you for the fast reply. (now I'm happy because that is indeed a good shield compared to other magnificent)
@-vincento- yes, I'm using both HV Toolbox and Live percentile ranges".... How can I submit the ranges?
Ok, I've found it.... thanks everithing is clear now
This post has been edited by balengooo: Apr 26 2018, 17:05
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Apr 26 2018, 18:08
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(VawX @ Apr 26 2018, 15:25)  I'm still not sure what prof factor is. On wiki it's the formula is: prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel
Is effective proficiency the one shown on the character page mmm...~?
yes. Have you read this? If not, please do so.
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Apr 27 2018, 06:21
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savethequeen2
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I need help improving my setups (IMG:[ imgur.com] https://imgur.com/M3hFMeB.jpeg) (IMG:[ imgur.com] https://imgur.com/VvgFjFq.jpeg) I can win every random encounter using DW and no items in IWBTH, and most of the lowest level arenas. How can I improve this? Any suggestion is welcomed!
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Apr 27 2018, 06:31
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igs88
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QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ Apr 27 2018, 11:21)  I need help improving my setups
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I can win every random encounter using DW and no items in IWBTH, and most of the lowest level arenas. How can I improve this? Any suggestion is welcomed!
Dw will be suitable with leather/light armor, or maybe you can try one handed style with rapier, force shield/kite shield, and heavy armor... Edit : you can see your ability tree and fill them with ability points. Train some adept learners in training or maybe the drops training.. And wow (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) iwbth on lv.89.... This post has been edited by igs88: Apr 27 2018, 06:36
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Apr 27 2018, 08:22
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VawX
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 26 2018, 23:08)  yes. Have you read this? If not, please do so. Yes I've read that, I'm just confused about the numbers in step 2-4, should I only rely on the prof shown in my profile to calculate my current or can I use that one? And it seems like proficiency factor capped at 1, while you should be able to get proficiency more than your level with training and perk or am I misunderstanding something mmm...~?
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Apr 27 2018, 08:23
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hentailover6983
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Is there any price check forums other than the one on the front of the HV forum page? I used the main price check one and I only got one response back on my Legendary Shade armor piece. They said it is in the range of 250k-500k. Do I trust it? Also, what would a fair price be for it, should I choose to sell it to a person? Or should I just send it to an auction? Legendary Amber Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer https://hentaiverse.org/equip/152718695/d24b1c7486
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Apr 27 2018, 08:49
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lololo16
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 27 2018, 03:23)  They said it is in the range of 250k-500k. Do I trust it?
Yes, he is right. Look, in my case, I always visit that thread and if I agree with the prices I see then I don't reply, I guess it's the same with others. QUOTE Also, what would a fair price be for it, should I choose to sell it to a person? Or should I just send it to an auction? Once I sold something similar for 650k, but it was already upgraded, so I think you can sell it for 400-500k in a shop
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Apr 27 2018, 08:51
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igs88
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 27 2018, 13:23)  Is there any price check forums other than the one on the front of the HV forum page? I used the main price check one and I only got one response back on my Legendary Shade armor piece. They said it is in the range of 250k-500k. Do I trust it? Also, what would a fair price be for it, should I choose to sell it to a person? Or should I just send it to an auction? Legendary Amber Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer https://hentaiverse.org/equip/152718695/d24b1c7486First, check your equipment's stats via super's live percentile script, if showed good stats (like more than 50% or 60% in several stats) than it's auctionable and you can send it to super's or kedama's auction. Second, you can trust almost all members here but you can't expect them all to answer your question in "price check" thread. Third, superlatanium is very very good person, so you can ask him directly (i asked him several times and he gave me good advices about how to see/measure good equipments stats and prefix/suffix). For a noob like us, it's always confusing, but you will learn it slowly, just be patience in learning.... [Correct me if i'm wrong] This post has been edited by igs88: Apr 27 2018, 08:53
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Apr 27 2018, 10:36
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Scremaz
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ Apr 26 2018, 06:28)  I'm new here (both in the forums and the HV) and I just wanted to say that the first page of this is incredible useful! Thanks you all for creating it.
... speaking of which, you reminded me I should trim them and organize then a bit since forever... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(quitetanky @ Apr 26 2018, 16:53)  end 101% is fine, its just this example is better than all others in database.
Not only. Due to how the reverse calc algorithm works and the exasperation given by percentile, it's very well possible that 101% doesn't actually mean anything because still on the realm of rounding errors. In general, I wouldn't sweat over a 1-2% difference... QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ Apr 27 2018, 06:21)  I can win every random encounter using DW and no items in IWBTH, and most of the lowest level arenas. How can I improve this? Any suggestion is welcomed!
Repair your gear. Also, iwtbh random encounter at your level?
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Apr 27 2018, 13:12
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hentailover6983
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So, I'm a little apprehensive about using scripts, since I've been essentially grinding my way up the levels from the beginning. After reading through the forums, I'm interested in the monster-hovering feature and the equipment percentile feature, since the former means I don't have to click all the time and the latter is useful for selling equipment.
Let me see if I get this straight:
Scripts are codes and programs created by members of the community that need to be downloaded or entered manually into the browsers, with each installment process different depending on the browser and method available.
I need to download certain programs, which will allow me to install these scripts. The scripts can be turned on and off, or another process must be done to turn them on once they are installed into Hentaiverse itself.
When these scripts are updated, does this mean that the current scripts being used will be updated automatically?
Would the scripts be on my browser or is my browser just a medium and I have to install the scripts into HV itself?
If I wish to follow through and gain scripts, where will I need to go to get the programs needed for the installation and the scripts themselves?
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Apr 27 2018, 13:50
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,280
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 27 2018, 13:12)  So, I'm a little apprehensive about using scripts, since I've been essentially grinding my way up the levels from the beginning. After reading through the forums, I'm interested in the monster-hovering feature and the equipment percentile feature, since the former means I don't have to click all the time and the latter is useful for selling equipment.
Let me see if I get this straight:
Scripts are codes and programs created by members of the community that need to be downloaded or entered manually into the browsers, with each installment process different depending on the browser and method available.
I need to download certain programs, which will allow me to install these scripts. The scripts can be turned on and off, or another process must be done to turn them on once they are installed into Hentaiverse itself.
When these scripts are updated, does this mean that the current scripts being used will be updated automatically?
Would the scripts be on my browser or is my browser just a medium and I have to install the scripts into HV itself?
If I wish to follow through and gain scripts, where will I need to go to get the programs needed for the installation and the scripts themselves?
Don't panic! 1. Use a browser that allows add-ons (I use Iron, chrome works as well) 2. Install add-on "Tampermonkey" 3. Install Monsterbation in tampermonkey That's all there is to it. If you want to know more about how scripts work, try google "javascripts"
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Apr 27 2018, 13:53
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Bedbin
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 27 2018, 11:12)  -snap-
This guide should pretty much answer all of your questions, but more importantly I'm quite impressed that you've almost hit level 400 without using Monsterbation script. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Apr 27 2018, 15:20
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savethequeen2
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 27 2018, 10:36) 
Also, iwtbh random encounter at your level?
Yeah. Now I had to lower to Nintendo because I was being one shotted way to often. Rapairing gear increase stats? I upgraded to "superior" now
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Apr 27 2018, 17:28
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 27 2018, 08:23)  Is there any price check forums other than the one on the front of the HV forum page? I used the main price check one and I only got one response back on my Legendary Shade armor piece. They said it is in the range of 250k-500k. Do I trust it? Also, what would a fair price be for it, should I choose to sell it to a person? Or should I just send it to an auction? Legendary Amber Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer https://hentaiverse.org/equip/152718695/d24b1c7486I stopped giving estimations in that thread because many players abuse the kindness of those who estimate. Give them the hand, they take the entire arm and stick a knife in your back.
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Apr 27 2018, 17:37
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 27 2018, 17:28)  I stopped giving estimations in that thread because many players abuse the kindness of those who estimate. Give them the hand, they take the entire arm and stick a knife in your back.
Many? no. One in particular, yes.
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Apr 27 2018, 20:03
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 27 2018, 17:37)  Many? no. One in particular, yes. AFAIK, you're not shop owner/auctioneer, so of course you don't see the things that I see.
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