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Esteemed forum colleagues,
I have a question about proper game etiquette:

Is it acceptable to sell equipment marked as “Untradeable” to the Bazaar?


When I started I sold some such items to the Bazaar. Then I noticed that those items kept sitting in the market and I seemed to be the only one selling untradeable items. So I used the credits I got from yanyaaaa, bought them back and salvaged them (60k credits gone in an instant).

Btw, why are untradeable items so much more expensive than comparable items without the “Untradeable” tag?

Anyway, later I realized that some (a few or maybe only one?) others also sold untradeable items to the market. Also the game allows it, so there's probably some thought behind this. Since my credits seem to run through my fingers as fast as I get them, I'd like to scrape every bit I can, even if it's chump change. But on the other hand I don't want to be “that” guy.

you can sell the untradeable equip to the bazzar as normal one, the only different is only you can see it in bazzar, also for the salvage items. for the same reason you can't see other untradeable items which sell by others. you have 24hrs to buy it back if you make mistake, and there're 5x punish for buy back. if you don't want a untradeble items anymore and the bazzar value is better than salvage, then just bazzar it and have nothing to worry about

Thanks for the reply.

I'm almost certain that there were a few untradeable items not coming from me. However, the market is “clean” atm, so I can't confirm this.

Regarding the buy back price I did some testing: buying an item, selling it again and then check the buy back price. Apparently you sell an item at 1/5th of the original price. And the buy back price is 5 times the original price which is 25 times your selling price.
Also there seem to be a minimum buy back price set at 10k credits, which is the number I got when selling and buying back stuff in the low three digit range.


If I may, I'd like to ask a follow up question:
What happens to the untradeable stuff after 24 hours?
Is the “Untradeable” tag removed and the item is up for grabs for everyone?
Or is the item completely removed from the Bazaar?

Thanks for the reply.

I'm almost certain that there were a few untradeable items not coming from me. However, the market is “clean” atm, so I can't confirm this.

Regarding the buy back price I did some testing: buying an item, selling it again and then check the buy back price. Apparently you sell an item at 1/5th of the original price. And the buy back price is 5 times the original price which is 25 times your selling price.
Also there seem to be a minimum buy back price set at 10k credits, which is the number I got when selling and buying back stuff in the low three digit range.
If I may, I'd like to ask a follow up question:
What happens to the untradeable stuff after 24 hours?
Is the “Untradeable” tag removed and the item is up for grabs for everyone?
Or is the item completely removed from the Bazaar?

clean? no dude, you're probably running a script that filters out everything but the good stuff.

salvage: not available for everyone to grab
sell: available for everyone to grab
after 24 hours: gone forever.

clean? no dude, you're probably running a script that filters out everything but the good stuff.

What I meant was, that there are currently no items tagged as "Untradeable" (except for one, which is from me). I don't have any scripts running atm as I still have to learn about them.

And thanks for the explanation on Bazaar behaviour.

[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/44435/506013f8a5
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/606814/e73f356bc2
Are these sword and shield good enough to be worth forging block/parry on to go to floor 50(and maybe a bit beyond) or should I wait for a legendary/better magnificent drop?

I've also been lucky and got this peerless drop [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/319691/7546de9dab
should I soulfuse it for the level scaling, even though I'll get it on persistent at the end of the season anyway, or am I better off just waiting for a decent legendary of higher level to replace it?

What I meant was, that there are currently no items tagged as "Untradeable" (except for one, which is from me). I don't have any scripts running atm as I still have to learn about them.

And thanks for the explanation on Bazaar behaviour.

when people sell to bazaar, they are not yet untradable: they become untradable after buying them iirc

[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/44435/506013f8a5
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/606814/e73f356bc2
Are these sword and shield good enough to be worth forging block/parry on to go to floor 50(and maybe a bit beyond) or should I wait for a legendary/better magnificent drop?

I've also been lucky and got this peerless drop [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/319691/7546de9dab
should I soulfuse it for the level scaling, even though I'll get it on persistent at the end of the season anyway, or am I better off just waiting for a decent legendary of higher level to replace it?

no need to fuse that, level scaling effect isn't that high. I would not replace it with a legendary, just keep using it as is. Unless you want to forge it: that's so expensive for peerless, then you're better off buying something lower tier.

[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/44435/506013f8a5
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/606814/e73f356bc2
Are these sword and shield good enough to be worth forging block/parry on to go to floor 50(and maybe a bit beyond) or should I wait for a legendary/better magnificent drop?

I've also been lucky and got this peerless drop [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/319691/7546de9dab
should I soulfuse it for the level scaling, even though I'll get it on persistent at the end of the season anyway, or am I better off just waiting for a decent legendary of higher level to replace it?

If you are thinking about F100, i would try to buy a better weapon at auction.
Shield looks nice but is agi instead of end, idk maybe a better shield would be expensive.

[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/44435/506013f8a5
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/606814/e73f356bc2
Are these sword and shield good enough to be worth forging block/parry on to go to floor 50(and maybe a bit beyond) or should I wait for a legendary/better magnificent drop?

I've also been lucky and got this peerless drop [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/319691/7546de9dab
should I soulfuse it for the level scaling, even though I'll get it on persistent at the end of the season anyway, or am I better off just waiting for a decent legendary of higher level to replace it?

I would not forge/use a Force shield simply because of how expensive Defense Matrix Modulators are. A well rolled legendary kite shield should be more than enough if your goal is floor 50.

This post has been edited by Ramaki: May 25 2025, 17:31

with a peerless willow staff, which slot should i pick for the proficiency piece (elemental)?
can i get away by using pants instead of a robe in the beginning?

with a peerless willow staff, which slot should i pick for the proficiency piece (elemental)?
can i get away by using pants instead of a robe in the beginning?

depends on your prof. I'd suggest you use a forge calculator (mathl33t has made one for instance) to calculate if you can use pants.

depends on your prof. I'd suggest you use a forge calculator (mathl33t has made one for instance) to calculate if you can use pants.

thank you.
i had already checked the ranges by looking at various equips in super's auction with different prof percentages, this tool will let me narrow it down way further.

if i understand correctly, in order to hit 0.79 prof factor i would need 895 prof at level 500.
it's definitely doable with pants but it would require a very good roll and very high forging on both the staff and the pants.

with assimilator training at lvl5 i've noticed that my proficiencies stay naturally at ~40 levels above my character level so i assume that at level 500 grinding to ~540 (594 with the hath perk) will take a very short time.

from Nezu's guide i learned that grinding proficiencies takes a very long time:

Reaching 580 proficiency is roughly equivalent to levelling 1-500 10 times.

of course 580 is not realistic, but how long would it take me to get the prof level to 550? to 560?
just looking for a ballpark, i know it depends on how much i play.

Is all progress hardgated by Stamina? The past few days I've been spending like 20min doing my Arenas and lost all the Stamina I regened since yesterday. Is there no sustainable way to grind without chugging restoratives which I can't really afford at my level? I know there is also REs, but those are also timegated, except directly and not by Stamina.

Is all progress hardgated by Stamina? The past few days I've been spending like 20min doing my Arenas and lost all the Stamina I regened since yesterday. Is there no sustainable way to grind without chugging restoratives which I can't really afford at my level? I know there is also REs, but those are also timegated, except directly and not by Stamina.

You really want to play in the PFUDOR difficulty, first and foremost. That expedites your progress significantly. Also, I can do every single arena and still end up with stamina to spare, only reason I can think of for you running out is the penalty from "failing" to properly identify the Ponies during the RiddleMaster's challenge.

Stamina
RiddleMaster

And lastly, you should make use of this service. Auto Equip Rental Shop

This post has been edited by Ramaki: May 26 2025, 16:02

of course 580 is not realistic, but how long would it take me to get the prof level to 550? to 560?
just looking for a ballpark, i know it depends on how much i play.

First, use HVU’s experience simulator to adjust to the target proficiency and check the corresponding level. For example, level 510 corresponds to a base proficiency of 560.

Then, check the experience multiplier on this website:
[lab.skk.moe] https://lab.skk.moe/hentaiverse-expgraph
Set the level to 510, and it shows 1.508x, which means you need 50.8% of the total experience required from level 1 to 500. This takes about 4 months(Gold Star) after lv500.

Using this method, you can roughly estimate the time needed to reach the target base proficiency. Of course, it's difficult to calculate it precisely.

Reaching 580 proficiency is roughly equivalent to levelling 1-500 10 times. This refers to the case with level 0 Assimilator, level 25 Assimilator only need 2.8 times, which takes around 2 years(Gold Star) after lv500.
LGBD perk + 1*ED per day, the required time can be further reduced.

This post has been edited by 剑行血间: May 26 2025, 18:58

of course 580 is not realistic, but how long would it take me to get the prof level to 550? to 560?
just looking for a ballpark, i know it depends on how much i play.

Just to put it in perspective at 545 prof with 15 assimilator, full adept learner, all exp hath perks and award I get 0,024 prof per SPL (500 arena) run. At this point it makes sense to prioritize your IRL goals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

First, use HVU’s experience simulator to adjust to the target proficiency and check the corresponding level. For example, level 510 corresponds to a base proficiency of 560.

Then, check the experience multiplier on this website:
[lab.skk.moe] https://lab.skk.moe/hentaiverse-expgraph
Set the level to 510, and it shows 1.508x, which means you need 50.8% of the total experience required from level 1 to 500. This takes about 4 months(Gold Star) after lv500.

Using this method, you can roughly estimate the time needed to reach the target base proficiency. Of course, it's difficult to calculate it precisely.

Reaching 580 proficiency is roughly equivalent to levelling 1-500 10 times. This refers to the case with level 0 Assimilator, level 25 Assimilator only need 2.8 times, which takes around 2 years(Gold Star) after lv500.
LGBD perk + 1*ED per day, the required time can be further reduced.

thank you, i could never figure out how to make use of that tool.
so i see that with assimilator 5 getting to 560 would take as much exp as leveling to lvl519... ouch.
507 if i raised assimilator to 15.

also i didn't realize how far i'm still from lvl500.

Just to put it in perspective at 545 prof with 15 assimilator, full adept learner, all exp hath perks and award I get 0,024 prof per SPL (500 arena) run. At this point it makes sense to prioritize your IRL goals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

ugh, and i only have the first exp hath perk...

This post has been edited by Malenk: May 26 2025, 21:59

Is all progress hardgated by Stamina? The past few days I've been spending like 20min doing my Arenas and lost all the Stamina I regened since yesterday. Is there no sustainable way to grind without chugging restoratives which I can't really afford at my level? I know there is also REs, but those are also timegated, except directly and not by Stamina.

It's the same for me. I intended to item world my next weapon, but after some testing I realized that I need 36 stamina just to get from IW1 to IW2. (I need roughly 360 points from IW1 to IW2. I get 40 points per match. 1 match on that weapon has 30 rounds which costs 4 stamina. This is on Hell difficulty. I assume I could get more points per match on Nintendo difficulty but can't survive for 30 rounds on that difficulty with my current abilities.)
Guess I will continue for a few more days to see if I manage to get out of red stamina and just give up if I can't.
Thanks Riddlemaster.

Edit: The number of points per match is wrong. Guess I was on Hard and not on Hell when I checked the numbers. Sorry for any confusion. And sorry for the bitchy tone in my post. It's gotten slighly better since then, but I'm still in solid red with my stamina, which is somewhat annoying.

This post has been edited by TheRealKetchup: May 31 2025, 14:21

It's the same for me. I intended to item world my next weapon, but after some testing I realized that I need 36 stamina just to get from IW1 to IW2. (I need roughly 360 points from IW1 to IW2. I get 40 points per match. 1 match on that weapon has 30 rounds which costs 4 stamina. This is on Hell difficulty. I assume I could get more points per match on Nintendo difficulty but can't survive for 30 rounds on that difficulty with my current abilities.)
Guess I will continue for a few more days to see if I manage to get out of red stamina and just give up if I can't.
Thanks Riddlemaster.

You can find interest stuff about HV on this Player signature.

He and another players can IW your item for free just look in the forum.

It's the same for me. I intended to item world my next weapon, but after some testing I realized that I need 36 stamina just to get from IW1 to IW2. (I need roughly 360 points from IW1 to IW2. I get 40 points per match. 1 match on that weapon has 30 rounds which costs 4 stamina. This is on Hell difficulty. I assume I could get more points per match on Nintendo difficulty but can't survive for 30 rounds on that difficulty with my current abilities.)
Guess I will continue for a few more days to see if I manage to get out of red stamina and just give up if I can't.
Thanks Riddlemaster.

Rainbow hair + tail but "messy/wild" (rainbow "mop of hair" covering part of the face is an easy tell) also has wings = Rainbow Dash
Straight "cut with a ruler" hair with stripes (also has a horn) = Twilight
Cloud-like hair + tail = Pinky
Mutated abomination = Fluttershy
Cowboy hat/tail tied into a "bun" of sorts = Applejack
Curly but straight (heh) "noble-like" tail/hair plus a distinctive horn = Rarity

Then there is the "pony-chart" which quickly becomes rather useless as the difficulty increases. Hopefully this helps. Doing Item World in lower difficulties is less than ideal. Would strongly recommend the aforementioned Auto Equip Rental Shop to "brute force" PFUDOR. If you would rather not borrow gear, make use of SmartSearch this script (requires tampermonkey) to scour the WTS section of this forum for some more permanent upgrades.

This post has been edited by Ramaki: May 27 2025, 00:05