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post Mar 2 2025, 01:54
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How do I go about getting the desired potencies for my shield? I want 5 darkproof, 5 holyproof. I tried a few times for no avail; either all the new potencies are neither dark no holly, or only some are.
I've been doing the Item World at Pfudor, the problem is that after doing it I need to use 4 Amnesia Shards, and they cost a lot. I've been thinking to do IW at Hell difficulty to unlock only one to begin with, so if it's not the one I want I don't need to use 4 Amnesia Shards but only 1.
Let's say I manage to get dark or holy. Should I continue 1 potency by 1, or try Pfudor to do many at once?
Is there any other strategy?
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post Mar 2 2025, 02:15
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QUOTE(OldRPGPlayer @ Mar 2 2025, 01:54) *

So, after participating in a few events and a bunch of running through arenas, I've got enough money to buy one of the 1,000 hath perks. Which would be the better purchase: Tokeniser to get more tokens to unlock more monsters to get more stuff, Effluent Ether for the MP, or hold off and save for Daemon Duality and the attack power? Or is there another first hath perk I'm overlooking?

DD, first level of Daemon Duality is amazing value.
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post Mar 2 2025, 02:30
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 1 2025, 19:11) *

I wouldn't recommend mage until your level is 310 and you have the three-target Imperil ability slotted. And even then you would first need to grind mage proficiencies playing pre-300 Arenas (at 300 Arenas become default PFUDOR) on Nintendo using Weaken and then you need to gauge when you're strong enough for dropping Weaken and then moving on to IWBTH+Weaken and so on to PFUDOR (amount of healing you need to survive is a good gauge: if you always have some options left, then it's time to move up), meanwhile playing the 300 using 1H-Heavy. Scrolls can be used instead of Weaken: credits in exchange for saving your time casting it. Weaken/scrolls usage isn't binary, obviously, you might be fine at 3 monsters and need them at 4 or 7 depending on strength.


Which isn't very helpful advice since respeccing now is a bit late considering the proficiency grind.

I'm already at 305 base proficiency across Cloth, Staff, Elemental, Supporting and 274 in forbidden and deprecating.

I've gotten to 541 with random gear pieces for elemental.

What I wanted to know is if the drop rate + credit earn rate is worth the time sink of doing the 225/250 on higher difficulties where there is more time sunk into grinding arena.

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post Mar 2 2025, 06:05
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Is it worth buying and soulfusing this armor (https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/1224357/88fcd26467) on isekai? Its for 37k on bazaar, im currently 266 and those are my armors:

isekai (266): https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/315368/a742f032e8
persistent (231): https://hentaiverse.org/equip/288926944/8a82f146e5

i could use this armor on persistent on the future too right?

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post Mar 2 2025, 06:33
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QUOTE(Dark Padian @ Mar 1 2025, 19:30) *

Which isn't very helpful advice since respeccing now is a bit late considering the proficiency grind.

I'm already at 305 base proficiency across Cloth, Staff, Elemental, Supporting and 274 in forbidden and deprecating.

I've gotten to 541 with random gear pieces for elemental.

What I wanted to know is if the drop rate + credit earn rate is worth the time sink of doing the 225/250 on higher difficulties where there is more time sunk into grinding arena.

Disclaimer, I can only provide mage experience since I forgot most of my melee experience.
If you mean score = gain/time, under this metric, farming non-SG arena is very close to farming SG arena.
I took 2-3 min to farm non-SG arena and gain 10k credit averagely.
score_sg : score_nonSG is very close, various from 0.7-1.3.
But if you play mage, then SG arena is easier and require less input.
SG arena is weaker. 1 rounds in SG only need 3 imp, and the gain is approximately equal to 5 rounds, which need 10-15 imp, non-SG.

QUOTE(MariorXD @ Mar 1 2025, 23:05) *

Is it worth buying and soulfusing this armor (https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/1224357/88fcd26467) on isekai? Its for 37k on bazaar, im currently 266 and those are my armors:

isekai (266): https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/315368/a742f032e8
persistent (231): https://hentaiverse.org/equip/288926944/8a82f146e5

i could use this armor on persistent on the future too right?

No. You will get better ones. It's still 2 months away from the end of season.
In ISK, it's never worth to soulfuse Magnificent item with level way higher than you.
With that cost, you already can buy some good item in your level from Isekai trade.

It's still far away from the end of season.
Anytime you're not sure about soulfuse, wait until the last week. Maybe you can save 250k-500k

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post Mar 2 2025, 11:15
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QUOTE(Wayne2000 @ Mar 2 2025, 00:54) *

How do I go about getting the desired potencies for my shield? I want 5 darkproof, 5 holyproof. I tried a few times for no avail; either all the new potencies are neither dark no holly, or only some are.
I've been doing the Item World at Pfudor, the problem is that after doing it I need to use 4 Amnesia Shards, and they cost a lot. I've been thinking to do IW at Hell difficulty to unlock only one to begin with, so if it's not the one I want I don't need to use 4 Amnesia Shards but only 1.
Let's say I manage to get dark or holy. Should I continue 1 potency by 1, or try Pfudor to do many at once?
Is there any other strategy?


get dark descent or use dark descent service on WTS forum. Then start with highest diff that will give you 2 pots. Reforging is then 1 amnesia. Never do more than 1 amnesia worth of potencies in 1st round, way too expensive.

QUOTE(Dark Padian @ Mar 2 2025, 01:30) *

Which isn't very helpful advice since respeccing now is a bit late considering the proficiency grind.

I'm already at 305 base proficiency across Cloth, Staff, Elemental, Supporting and 274 in forbidden and deprecating.

I've gotten to 541 with random gear pieces for elemental.

What I wanted to know is if the drop rate + credit earn rate is worth the time sink of doing the 225/250 on higher difficulties where there is more time sunk into grinding arena.


that's not ow proficiency works. You can switch any time to melee. Proficiency will build up like crazy and the style is very forgiving for low proficiency, unlike mage. Just play 1h or DW.

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post Mar 2 2025, 17:21
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Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter

should i invest more into this weapon?
mainly talking about bindings of slaughter.
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post Mar 2 2025, 18:41
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QUOTE(Dark Padian @ Mar 2 2025, 02:30) *

Which isn't very helpful advice since respeccing now is a bit late considering the proficiency grind.

I'm already at 305 base proficiency across Cloth, Staff, Elemental, Supporting and 274 in forbidden and deprecating.

I've gotten to 541 with random gear pieces for elemental.

What I wanted to know is if the drop rate + credit earn rate is worth the time sink of doing the 225/250 on higher difficulties where there is more time sunk into grinding arena.

The rule of thumb for Arena difficulty is: it should be as high as you can comfortably survive (without being forced to use more defensive debuffs than Weaken, if we're talking mage). If time is the issue, do less Arenas instead of lowering difficulty. But basically, what I'm telling you is that you are less time/profit effective playing mage at your level than you would be playing melee. Unless you sold all of your non-mage gear, go back to melee until at least level 310.

What's the highest difficulty you can survive? Because 300 Arena is PFUDOR-only as I mentioned, and it's considerably more lucrative (and difficult) than the preceding one, so not being able to clear it would hamstring your earning capacity.
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post Mar 2 2025, 19:14
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 2 2025, 16:21) *

Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter

should i invest more into this weapon?
mainly talking about bindings of slaughter.

this is a great sword. Great. It's very deserving of upgrades. Make shortswords great again.
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post Mar 2 2025, 21:42
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QUOTE(Noni @ Mar 2 2025, 18:14) *

this is a great sword. Great. It's very deserving of upgrades. Make shortswords great again.

ty, i wanted to go all in on a peerless demonic/hallowed one, but i managed to get this in the auction for only 50k and now i was having second thoughts since a binding of slaughter is worth more that what i paid for it.

i guess there is no reason to hold back, it's not a slot that i will upgrade anytime soon.
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post Mar 3 2025, 02:03
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Mar 2 2025, 18:41) *

The rule of thumb for Arena difficulty is: it should be as high as you can comfortably survive (without being forced to use more defensive debuffs than Weaken, if we're talking mage). If time is the issue, do less Arenas instead of lowering difficulty. But basically, what I'm telling you is that you are less time/profit effective playing mage at your level than you would be playing melee. Unless you sold all of your non-mage gear, go back to melee until at least level 310.

What's the highest difficulty you can survive? Because 300 Arena is PFUDOR-only as I mentioned, and it's considerably more lucrative (and difficult) than the preceding one, so not being able to clear it would hamstring your earning capacity.


Thanks this is more helpful. But why does higher levelled arena do better besides the EXP?

What makes 300 on PFUDOR more lucrative?
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post Mar 3 2025, 04:05
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QUOTE(Dark Padian @ Mar 2 2025, 19:03) *

Thanks this is more helpful. But why does higher levelled arena do better besides the EXP?

What makes 300 on PFUDOR more lucrative?

Trophies. Shrine them has very low expectation. And FoS perk in persistent needs 50k hath.
So, it's recommended to sell them to the market. And if you do, they are worth a lot.
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post Mar 3 2025, 05:27
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Questions regarding mage style for my own future reference when I eventually change into that style:

1. How do they survive in battles with 7-10 enemies when they spend the first few turns spreading imperil while enemies gang up on them before casting the offensive spell of choice?

2. In similar vein, how do they not run out of mana in long battles like the arena? Or rather, how do they still have enough mana to attack enemies in between the 40 turns cool down of mana potion?
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post Mar 3 2025, 05:58
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QUOTE(ordmag @ Mar 2 2025, 22:27) *

Questions regarding mage style for my own future reference when I eventually change into that style:

1. How do they survive in battles with 7-10 enemies when they spend the first few turns spreading imperil while enemies gang up on them before casting the offensive spell of choice?

2. In similar vein, how do they not run out of mana in long battles like the arena? Or rather, how do they still have enough mana to attack enemies in between the 40 turns cool down of mana potion?

1. If you're strong enough... ok, I should not talk nonsense.
When you're weak, use scroll (usually protection is enough, or protection + swiftness), weaken a few times, start T321 after IMP twice instead of IMP all, charged set.

2. Most mages, even new mages, will not run out of mana in the SG arena, except holy/dark.
This is kinda painful for low level mages due to PF (this is another PF)
QUOTE(Nezu @ Feb 28 2021, 14:51) *

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prof_factor = (effective_prof - min_prof) / (max_prof - min_prof)

With a cap of 1, as before.

Both of these stats are simply prof_factor * 0.25. While the effect of mana cost reduction is fairly straight forward, the effect of cast speed is harder to explain, and beyond the scope of this guide. (I will explain action speed in another one, in time.)

max_prof and min_prof are fixed. effective_prof are related to your level.
So, high level players save more mana and cast spell faster than low level, even if you have the same set.

Some perks work nicely for this problem.
Effluent Ether > any prof perk you need >>>>>>> Innate Arcana
Notice, some spell can easily have max prof_factor, so prof perk might not work 100%.
Like I have mana reduction from Eminent Elementalist for T3 spell only. Even without this perk, my T21 already have max pro factor
Never Innate Arcana, it's bad in current version.
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post Mar 3 2025, 07:09
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QUOTE(ordmag @ Mar 3 2025, 03:27) *

Questions regarding mage style for my own future reference when I eventually change into that style:

1. How do they survive in battles with 7-10 enemies when they spend the first few turns spreading imperil while enemies gang up on them before casting the offensive spell of choice?

2. In similar vein, how do they not run out of mana in long battles like the arena? Or rather, how do they still have enough mana to attack enemies in between the 40 turns cool down of mana potion?


1. Have defensive spells (Haste, Protection, Shadow Veil, Spirit Shield, Spark of Life) on autocast combined with equips with good defensive stats. You should have high evade and reasonable pmit and mmit. A bit of parry also helps things that get through. Mages naturally have a high resist chance, which helps against the most damaging attacks. Scrolls can help in particularly challenging battles (the last few arenas, late grindfest or IW rounds), as they are more powerful than the equivalent spells. Plus guzzling lots of portions.

2. As your proficiency increases, your spells will be more mana-efficient. Additionally, guzzle mana draughts (or elixirs). Those will help restore mana so you lose less in between potion/elixir uses.
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post Mar 4 2025, 04:20
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For the monster lab - is it better to have more monsters with lower levels and upgrades? Or fewer monsters fully upgraded?
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post Mar 4 2025, 05:03
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QUOTE(Dark Padian @ Mar 3 2025, 21:20) *

For the monster lab - is it better to have more monsters with lower levels and upgrades? Or fewer monsters fully upgraded?

More with low level. lv25 at least
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post Mar 5 2025, 01:04
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i read about Random Encounter, but i dont know how to enter this battles, can someone help? im level 72
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post Mar 5 2025, 01:42
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i read about Random Encounter, but i dont know how to enter this battles, can someone help? im level 72

It's triggered by browsing galleries or a news page.
If you have hvu installed, you can spot RE from the top bar.
Here is approved scripts
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post Mar 5 2025, 02:09
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More with low level. lv25 at least


Why is that? Is it for the random gifts?
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