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post Feb 18 2025, 20:12
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Feb 18 2025, 17:25) *

Thanks guys for all your help, I (we) really appreciate it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Question on Mage type?
Since my Int. is almost 40 pts higher than Wis. , should I use exp. pts to raise wisdom to match Int. ?

Effective Primary Stats:
309 strength, 307 dexterity,
569 agility, 355 endurance,
819 intelligence, 781 wisdom

Primary attributes_____________________
Intelligence 436 +3 +380 707,385,438
Wisdom___ 436 +1 +344 707,385,438 <-Add all exp here, until it matches Int. Effective Primary Stats

2nd Question:
Since Effective Proficiency for elemental is 100's higher, can I swap out my 1 equip with ...of the Elementalist for another "of Mjolnir"?

Effective Proficiency

554  elemental
357  divine
358  forbidden
431  deprecating
430  supportive

Thanks in advance for your advice and guidance. :-)

1st question: doesn't matter that much
2nd question: no. Use HV Utils, or calculate manually: prof factor should be 0.7
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post Feb 18 2025, 20:37
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Feb 18 2025, 03:33) *

IW peerless item is indeed hard. Even you play 1H melees, without high forge stats, you still can't hover without brain.
But if you really invest that much, it's better to invest on mage.

Some big shots said IW on shield and armor doesn't grant you better experience if you don't have good enough base stats. So, forge more > IW for defense.
[296253544] Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (Level 494, MDB 47%, EDB 33%, FProf 93% )
[298163989] Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Fenrir (Level 500, EDB 19%, Evd 88%, MDB 75% )
[299219846] Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 49%, Evd 77%, MDB 35% )
[300173666] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Fenrir (Level 383, EDB 4%, Evd 40%, MDB 53% )
[299219341] Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 27%, Evd 73%, MDB 13% )
[297450563] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend (Level 500, FProf 64%, Evd 26%, CS 93% )
These cost me about 10m. I haven't forged them. Took me about 3-4 months watching super's auction
If you want something better, 20-30m is the minimum and you have to wait. This can only grant you set with medium roll
Forge could be cheap, or expensive. It's log function. Forging the first 50 >> last 50.
You can do 50 | 30 forge. Or 30 | 20 forge on primary and secondary attributes, 5 for non-important attributes.
Then, you'll need Death and Decay (1000 hath), and it's better to have Evil Enchantress(1000 hath)
50m is enought to be any mage except holy. The main problem is the timr and level you need to find equips.
And I recommend to purchase IW service for your staff (4-5m). 5P4S is a inhuman torture.
Btw, dark and holy are bad for low level player due to prof factor on casting speed and mana conservation.

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Forge cost seems fair for all mage. About 7m to reach decent forge stats. I think 50 | 30 is ok for starter (about 3m)
This is why many people starts with wind and elec.
However, the different between wind/elec and fire/cold are less than 10%. And you can easily find/bid fire/cold set.
If you want to be a mage faster, fire/cold is better.

6m is enough to be a new mage.
Buy legendary staff and prof part, and soulfuse them, forge 50 | 30.
Use Magnificent for 4 phase, don't soulfuse.
You will need scroll for non-SG arena, but still a lot better than melee.
You can swap M with L when you find better one and while forging staff and prof part.
10m can grant you good experience with mage without scroll on arena.
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friendly advice: use 2 prof slots, not 1. You'll be faster & stronger, even with less raw damage. You seem to be copying a set-up that only works with peerless staff & robe.

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post Feb 18 2025, 20:45
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Feb 18 2025, 21:02) *

Nice reminder, starting with 2000 Hath for 10%; then 5% increase for 200% increase in cost per 5%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
So for a mere 170,000 Hath to max out the Increase of attack damage and magic damage by 50%, s

who is talking about "max out"?
i'm just talking about DD1 - best buff in the game (after Gold Star (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
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post Feb 18 2025, 22:04
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Quick question: How do scrolls and other skills interact with abilities (such as Better Haste)? Are they improved by those abilities or they use their own effects?

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post Feb 18 2025, 22:20
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QUOTE(binaryhedgehog @ Feb 19 2025, 04:04) *

Quick question: How do scrolls and other skills interact with abilities (such as Better Haste)? Are they improved by those abilities or they use their own effects?


https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive_Magic

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Scrolls

TL;DR

1. Overwrite same effect

2. Effects from scrolls are always better than skills
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post Feb 18 2025, 22:27
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QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 18 2025, 13:12) *

1st question: doesn't matter that much
2nd question: no. Use HV Utils, or calculate manually: prof factor should be 0.7

Thank you Noni (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Feb 19 2025, 01:21
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QUOTE(Here Come Dat Boi @ Feb 17 2025, 23:58) *

Would going with fire/cold mage to start be good then, if I have about 230 proficiency in everything just from dawn of new day? I mean unless I like, pull a really good staff or smth while saving up. Speaking of which, how hard is floor 50 tower to reach? I'm like halfway there and kinda want to gamble for a peerless staff. Harder or easier than PFUDOR peerless IW level 100?
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It's ok. Many new mages need to suffer for one week due to low prof.
Harder than IW100 rounds in my opinion. You need scroll and relatively higher forge,
but not that hard since people tend to forge more for tower.
hc br passed Fl 100 last season with almost all M armor (I forgot about his weapon and shield, should be M, too)
Anyway, all M quality, 10 forge on all important attributes are enough for 50 based on my experience.

QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 18 2025, 13:37) *

friendly advice: use 2 prof slots, not 1. You'll be faster & stronger, even with less raw damage. You seem to be copying a set-up that only works with peerless staff & robe.

Thanks I'll just leave my equip set with dust.
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:04
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QUOTE(SIRIUSs @ Feb 18 2025, 13:20) *

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive_Magic

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Scrolls

TL;DR

1. Overwrite same effect

2. Effects from scrolls are always better than skills

I'm also referring to something like Better Blind and Iris Strike
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:36
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Feb 18 2025, 17:21) *

It's ok. Many new mages need to suffer for one week due to low prof.
Harder than IW100 rounds in my opinion. You need scroll and relatively higher forge,
but not that hard since people tend to forge more for tower.
hc br passed Fl 100 last season with almost all M armor (I forgot about his weapon and shield, should be M, too)
Anyway, all M quality, 10 forge on all important attributes are enough for 50 based on my experience.
Thanks I'll just leave my equip set with dust.


Power or Shielding Plate better for Tower? Currently running only 1 M shielding plate with bad block, E force shield with 98% block roll that someone bazaar'd, 1 non-shielding L plate, and a few pieces of E power armor with 70-90% all offensive stats (got lucky on rolls for once). But also am only lv260 on ISK. Have no problems running Arena at PFUDOR but still use (need?) Haste autocasted which reduces damage output.
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:39
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QUOTE(ikki. @ Feb 18 2025, 12:45) *

who is talking about "max out"?
i'm just talking about DD1 - best buff in the game (after Gold Star (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )


Yeah, I think that was one of if not the first HV-related perk I got. Didn't know it was the best perk to get.
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:46
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Someone on Price Check thread said these two items may be worth money. Should I auction/sell and if so, how?

[299273907] Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Protection (Lv.289, SDA, BLK 77%)

[299208844] Legendary Savage Shade Boots of the Fleet (Lv.276, SDEA, ADB 14%)
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post Feb 19 2025, 04:16
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QUOTE(Here Come Dat Boi @ Feb 18 2025, 20:36) *

Power or Shielding Plate better for Tower? Currently running only 1 M shielding plate with bad block, E force shield with 98% block roll that someone bazaar'd, 1 non-shielding L plate, and a few pieces of E power armor with 70-90% all offensive stats (got lucky on rolls for once). But also am only lv260 on ISK. Have no problems running Arena at PFUDOR but still use (need?) Haste autocasted which reduces damage output.

Assuming you're melee, you should try to get M at least force shield as possible.
M can have 3 PABs, but E can't, though you can still pass 50 FL with E.
If you can survive easily, power is better in term of clear speed. Shielding provides higher potential than power, but much longer clear time.
M quality is kinda easy to get, and cheap to forge. I would recommend M at least. 30% M≈90% E iirc.

QUOTE(Here Come Dat Boi @ Feb 18 2025, 20:46) *

Someone on Price Check thread said these two items may be worth money. Should I auction/sell and if so, how?

[299273907] Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Protection (Lv.289, SDA, BLK 77%)

[299208844] Legendary Savage Shade Boots of the Fleet (Lv.276, SDEA, ADB 14%)

50-100k, might not sell
Bad, very likely not sell
You can try to auction first one.

You can auction both
You can try to search under WTS subforum with smart search to see if people bid it

Btw, if you're last post, you can edit to post new question.

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post Feb 19 2025, 04:54
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I don't think the lv.276 shade is bad, the low level shade is very rare, rare even than the power, this one should priced 500+k in the low level auction before, but well it may take a long time to sell as usually the low level player don't have enough credits to buy. and even if you send it to super's auction now I don't think it not sell, it could be snap by the reseller @81k or @51k, if it not sell then you can cod it @50k to me, even I don't think it make any usage to me and I'm lazy to resell items
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post Feb 19 2025, 04:57
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I don't think the lv.276 shade is bad, the low level shade is very rare, rare even than the power, this one should priced 500+k in the low level auction before, but well it may take a long time to sell as usually the low level player don't have enough credits to buy. and even if you send it to super's auction now I don't think it not sell, it could be snap by the reseller @81k or @51k, if it not sell then you can cod it @50k to me, even I don't think it make any usage to me and I'm lazy to resell items

lol. I thought low level players prefer power over shade, and high level players would want shadowdancer.
Ok, I'll change my reply
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Feb 19 2025, 10:57) *

lol. I thought low level players prefer power over shade, and high level players would want shadowdancer.


uaually ppl think like this, so the low level shade disappear, so the low level shade is rare
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post Feb 19 2025, 05:33
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Speaking of low level shade, got this Legendary Jade Shade Gauntlets of the Shadowdancer (255, Evd 92%, ADB 17%) on ISK. Worth anything?

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QUOTE(Here Come Dat Boi @ Feb 19 2025, 04:33) *

Speaking of low level shade, got this Legendary Jade Shade Gauntlets of the Shadowdancer (255, Evd 92%, ADB 17%) on ISK. Worth anything?

yes. A couple of months ago this would be a small fortune, but now it could even be hard to sell. Maybe this could sell if there are still light players active?
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post Feb 19 2025, 13:24
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I've reached floor 71 in the Tower as 1H Heavy. I have long passed the point where you need to cast Sleep only once per round. I now must cast Sleep on two different groups of monsters at the start of a round (and recast it on those groups when the duration gets low). However, I don't know the best debuff rotation to use.
Assuming that there are 9 enemies in a round, you're using all debuffs (Sleep, Silence, Slow, Blind, Weaken, and Imperil), and spells always connect, what is the best debuff rotation to use that uses two Sleeps as soon as it's off cooldown?
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post Feb 19 2025, 15:38
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After I get Orbital Friendship Cannon skill for a long time, can I sell the Figurines?
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post Feb 19 2025, 16:44
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After I get Orbital Friendship Cannon skill for a long time, can I sell the Figurines?


No.If you do that, you lose OFC.
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