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Dec 19 2023, 16:11
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Byza @ Dec 19 2023, 09:16)  Usually when you start a new round with full overcharge. Then, you build back the oc while using (imperil everything and) vital strike on schoolgirls until OFC is out of cooldown. Then, as soon as you reach a new round, use OFC. Repeat.
At least that is how I used it, which came recommended in this thread.
May as well imperil the schoolgirls first, if your OFC doesn't kill them. This post has been edited by Nezu: Dec 19 2023, 16:11
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Dec 19 2023, 17:31
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SDR Fang
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 19 2023, 06:11)  May as well imperil the schoolgirls first, if your OFC doesn't kill them.
In most cases my OFC can only hit 30% without crit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Dec 21 2023, 00:53
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Treia
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The yuletide lottery usually gets posted around now? In which forum?
I've definitely missed a few, need to finally get one...
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Dec 21 2023, 00:54
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-terry-
Group: Global Mods
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QUOTE(Treia @ Dec 21 2023, 00:53)  The yuletide lottery usually gets posted around now? In which forum?
I've definitely missed a few, need to finally get one...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=2
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Dec 21 2023, 04:47
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what_is_name
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Treia @ Dec 21 2023, 06:53)  The yuletide lottery usually gets posted around now? In which forum?
I've definitely missed a few, need to finally get one...
you will see it in the news page if it begin
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Dec 21 2023, 12:36
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ConanDKirby
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Where can I look for 200 ish level equipments? I am only getting my stuff in equipment shop and I am 50 level behind now. I am sorry if its in someguide place but its like a maze here.
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Dec 21 2023, 16:23
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kotitonttu
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I am too dumb to do the math, so what is the general consensus on Shrine upgrades?
Is it worth it? Default? Disable alltogether? Manually set it to a higher level? To me it seems like the random rolls have more influence than the "Tier" does, and it's more beneficial to have additional attempts than it is to upgrade each attempt, but that is just a gut feeling and based on a really small sample size.
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Dec 21 2023, 17:23
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 21 2023, 15:23)  I am too dumb to do the math, so what is the general consensus on Shrine upgrades?
Is it worth it? Default? Disable alltogether? Manually set it to a higher level? To me it seems like the random rolls have more influence than the "Tier" does, and it's more beneficial to have additional attempts than it is to upgrade each attempt, but that is just a gut feeling and based on a really small sample size.
max. QUOTE(ConanDKirby @ Dec 21 2023, 11:36)  Where can I look for 200 ish level equipments? I am only getting my stuff in equipment shop and I am 50 level behind now. I am sorry if its in someguide place but its like a maze here.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=264121https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=264557and more in WTS
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Dec 21 2023, 18:15
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mathl33t
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 21 2023, 09:23)  I am too dumb to do the math, so what is the general consensus on Shrine upgrades?
Is it worth it? Default? Disable alltogether? Manually set it to a higher level? To me it seems like the random rolls have more influence than the "Tier" does, and it's more beneficial to have additional attempts than it is to upgrade each attempt, but that is just a gut feeling and based on a really small sample size.
Sell the trophies instead. If you're desperate for a weapon or shield and can't find one in auction/WTS, try noodlies/unicorn horns and pray. Other trophies are for rich players with the Follower of Snowflake hath perk to try to get their ideal peerless equips. See probabilities here
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Dec 21 2023, 19:45
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BlueWaterSplash
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I don't know if people have discussed trophy upgrades or agreed upon the best results. From studying the information in the wiki, my guess is that: - If you are just going for shrine credits value, do not upgrade anything
- If you only care about the small chance of getting Peerless, do not upgrade anything
- If you are desperate for equipment like in isekai, default upgrade to Tier 4, or max upgrade to Tier 5
Anyone else, thoughts?
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Dec 21 2023, 19:46
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kotitonttu
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QUOTE(mathl33t @ Dec 21 2023, 18:15)  Sell the trophies instead.
But rolling the dice is fun. The theoretical chance of getting the perfect drop. Way better than getting the sensible semi-good item from the auction house.
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Dec 21 2023, 20:20
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Nezu
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 21 2023, 17:45)  I don't know if people have discussed trophy upgrades or agreed upon the best results. From studying the information in the wiki, my guess is that: - If you are just going for shrine credits value, do not upgrade anything
- If you only care about the small chance of getting Peerless, do not upgrade anything
- If you are desperate for equipment like in isekai, default upgrade to Tier 4, or max upgrade to Tier 5
Anyone else, thoughts? No, if you're FoSing, you absolutely do upgrade for the greatest shrine credit value. If you choose not to upgrade, you'll get more legendary equipments (although I want to note the rates are still abysmally low and generally will not return anything useful within hundreds of millions of credits worth of trophies). This post has been edited by Nezu: Dec 21 2023, 20:21
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Dec 21 2023, 21:36
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kotitonttu
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Although I welcome all discussion as it pertains to the Shrine drop odds, I'll add that my current situation is as follows: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/NwlRTu3.png) (lv. 279) So, upgrade or not to upgrade?
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Dec 21 2023, 21:53
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 21 2023, 19:36)  Although I welcome all discussion as it pertains to the Shrine drop odds, I'll add that my current situation is as follows:
So, upgrade or not to upgrade?
I will repeat what I said before: the chances of getting legendaries from the shrine are slim, and you will likely burn hundreds of millions of credits before getting self-found upgrades. It is, by several orders of magnitude, more realistic to watch auctions & player shops while making the best of what you've got. Upgrading or not upgrading will make close to no difference to this equation. (But theoretically, don't upgrade, if you're trying to get legendaries.) This post has been edited by Nezu: Dec 21 2023, 21:54
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Dec 21 2023, 21:56
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kotitonttu
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 21 2023, 21:53)  I will repeat what I said before: the chances of getting legendaries from the shrine are slim, and you will likely burn hundreds of millions of credits before getting self-found upgrades. It is, by several orders of magnitude, more realistic to watch auctions & player shops while making the best of what you've got.
Upgrading or not upgrading will make close to no difference to this equation. (But theoretically, don't upgrade, if you're trying to get legendaries.)
I already got one peerless that way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Dec 21 2023, 22:04
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kotitonttu
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idk this is obviously all conjecture and based on a small sample size, but I had saved up about 40 shrine objects and based on the "don't upgrade" advice rolled them all individually. the result was ~80% "average" trash gear and the rest were superior at most.
having previously saved up my shrine trophies until at least Tier 4 rolls I must say at least I did not use to get "averages". perhaps mostly "superiors" but not utter trash gear the way I got when disabling all upgrading.
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Dec 22 2023, 01:37
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 21 2023, 19:56)  I already got one peerless that way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The exception of your insane luck doesn't invalidate the rule. Under normal circumstances (which are still a tad bit better than me), you only ever get one Peerless out of shrining hundreds and hundreds of noodles, and never got any Peerless from shrining dozens od thousands of schoolgirl trophies. Not to disrespect or boss you around or anything, but I think that people who have shrined worth of hundreds of millions of shrine value know better what's the true outcome.
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Dec 22 2023, 03:58
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kotitonttu
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QUOTE(KitsuneAbby @ Dec 22 2023, 01:37)  Not to disrespect or boss you around or anything, but I think that people who have shrined worth of hundreds of millions of shrine value know better what's the true outcome.
Oh yeah, I didn't mean to come across as unbossable. I hear what you (and Nezu and mathl33t and others) are saying. I understand it's like playing the lottery (well, not literally, because I got a peerless from the lottery as well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)). However, I like games of chance so I'd rather keep rolling than save up coins for the market place. If you ever played Diablo 3 at launch you understand why that is. It's infinitely more fun to get lucky on a dice roll than it is to buy someone else's sloppy seconds. So I'm not really asking whether it makes any sense to play the Shrine at all, but rather if I am dedicated to rolling the Shrine, which way should I do it?
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