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post Sep 15 2023, 17:54
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QUOTE(fatepain @ Sep 15 2023, 17:48) *

1H Rapier+ Force Shield with high block rate i sure you can survive an arena all PFUDOR .

You Level 373 can use LV473 Equipment soulbound with Soul Fragment.


Yep I current have a 1H build and I'm not having trouble clearing arena on PFUDOR difficulty. It's simply taking too much time IMO. Like it can take hours for me to complete DwD arena because I don't have patience to do it in one sitting, I always take breaks. That's why I want to switch to 2H build, though it's squishy from what I remember. Mage build is too expensive to set up IIRC, I don't have the money for it.
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post Sep 15 2023, 17:59
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QUOTE(Evyy @ Sep 15 2023, 22:54) *

Yep I current have a 1H build and I'm not having trouble clearing arena on PFUDOR difficulty. It's simply taking too much time IMO. Like it can take hours for me to complete DwD arena because I don't have patience to do it in one sitting, I always take breaks. That's why I want to switch to 2H build, though it's squishy from what I remember. Mage build is too expensive to set up IIRC, I don't have the money for it.




want faster go1H HEAVY Power Slaughter set. NOT too expensive like Mage.

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post Sep 15 2023, 18:23
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QUOTE(fatepain @ Sep 15 2023, 17:59) *

want faster go1H HEAVY Power Slaughter set. NOT too expensive like Mage.

I'm using these :

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/234876890/3deb7f1d0a
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/234747084/54414afacf
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/290953436/f62e846b5e
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/226244033/ffaebe0f4c
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/239604851/31172787ed
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/204604449/bbfe24681b
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/183641163/632544503a

I plan to replace the underleveled helmet by https://hentaiverse.org/equip/289967147/3da8772060
But I'm waiting because I want to see if I can gather good equipment for 2H build.
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post Sep 15 2023, 18:32
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I will give you free . Slaughter but low ADB 17%
Legendary Mithril Power Gauntlets of Slaughter Level 454 need soulbound

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post Sep 15 2023, 20:14
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Is there a way to see what is my current EXP multiplier?
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post Sep 15 2023, 23:27
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QUOTE(SuicideTree @ Sep 15 2023, 12:14) *

Is there a way to see what is my current EXP multiplier?

No, the closest are the rounds that have a fixed monster composition (Ring of Blood or the final round of some Arena). You need to know the exp formula, but thankfully that is clamped at 300, so you can just remember a fixed value.

Base Monster Exp = (3 + clamp(monster_lvl, 1, 300)^1.193 / 6) * (1 + monster_plvl / 500)
Simplified for level >= 300
Level 300 Base Monster Exp = 153.333 * (1 + monster_plvl / 500)

In a lot of the rounds with fixed monsters composition (all but the last Ring of Blood, but only the final round The Trio and the Tree in Arena), all the monsters have Power Level of 0 so it just 153.333 for them. So you can just divide by the number of monsters and 153.333. You'll probably want to divide out the difficulty, stamina and arena bonuses too.

The rest of the formulas are.
Player Exp Multiplier = stamina_bonus * difficulty_bonus * arena_bonus * (1 + hath_perk_bonus + training_bonus) * (1 + star_bonus) * (1 + award_bonus) * (1 + toplist_bonus) * (1 + posting_bonus)
Exp for Round = Ceiling( Sum(Base Monster Exp) * Player Exp Multiplier)

The formula is from the wiki and I've tested it thoroughly and using the full formula gives the exact amount ever time (the simplified ones may be off by a tiny bit do to early rounding).
The only bonus that you can't just know you have is the toplist one, but that's always in 5% increments, and most people don't have any toplists.
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post Sep 16 2023, 02:56
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Sep 16 2023, 00:27) *

No, the closest are the rounds that have a fixed monster composition (Ring of Blood or the final round of some Arena). You need to know the exp formula, but thankfully that is clamped at 300, so you can just remember a fixed value.

Base Monster Exp = (3 + clamp(monster_lvl, 1, 300)^1.193 / 6) * (1 + monster_plvl / 500)
Simplified for level >= 300
Level 300 Base Monster Exp = 153.333 * (1 + monster_plvl / 500)

In a lot of the rounds with fixed monsters composition (all but the last Ring of Blood, but only the final round The Trio and the Tree in Arena), all the monsters have Power Level of 0 so it just 153.333 for them. So you can just divide by the number of monsters and 153.333. You'll probably want to divide out the difficulty, stamina and arena bonuses too.

The rest of the formulas are.
Player Exp Multiplier = stamina_bonus * difficulty_bonus * arena_bonus * (1 + hath_perk_bonus + training_bonus) * (1 + star_bonus) * (1 + award_bonus) * (1 + toplist_bonus) * (1 + posting_bonus)
Exp for Round = Ceiling( Sum(Base Monster Exp) * Player Exp Multiplier)

The formula is from the wiki and I've tested it thoroughly and using the full formula gives the exact amount ever time (the simplified ones may be off by a tiny bit do to early rounding).
The only bonus that you can't just know you have is the toplist one, but that's always in 5% increments, and most people don't have any toplists.


I figured I'll have to do it manually, but wasn't completely sure if there wasn't an easy way of having it displayed somewhere, even in some script maybe? Either way thanks for the explanation.
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post Sep 16 2023, 09:09
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According to the wiki:
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Stamina is consumed at the end of every battle round at the rate of 0.03 on Great status and 0.02 at Normal status.

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60-99: Great, +100% EXP
1-59: Normal, No bonuses or penalties

Does this mean the overall effect of keeping stamina above 60 is 1.33x EXP, and draining stamina below 60 yields 1.5x credits and drops on averge?

Also, is this still true?
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0: Exhausted. No EXP, credit, proficiency gains, potency gains, or drops from monsters. Battles can't be started when stamina < 2

IIRC the stamina readout only says no exp.
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post Sep 16 2023, 13:02
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How do I see an equipment's quality in terms of ADB or MDB? Do I need to install a script to see it?

For exapmle, what I'm seeing now is in the attachment
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post Sep 16 2023, 13:12
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QUOTE(.player @ Sep 16 2023, 07:09) *

According to the wiki:

and

Does this mean the overall effect of keeping stamina above 60 is 1.33x EXP, and draining stamina below 60 yields 1.5x credits and drops on averge?

Also, is this still true?

IIRC the stamina readout only says no exp.



stamina above 60 is 200% exp, getting that below 60 grant you nothing but 100% exp and a 0.02 stamina cost per round

and I remember that I can start battle at 0 stamina 1 year ago. Not sure if it changes and I have never tested since then. I was able to enter grindfest and random encounter and they all yield with nothing except equipment condition lost.

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QUOTE(56aaaaa @ Sep 16 2023, 11:02) *

How do I see an equipment's quality in terms of ADB or MDB? Do I need to install a script to see it?

For exapmle, what I'm seeing now is in the attachment
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the said 1060 piercing damage is your weapon ADB.

Melee weapon has 0 MDB.

MDB of a staff and radiant phase armor will be written as Magic Damage on the equipment.

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post Sep 16 2023, 13:24
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the said 1060 piercing damage is your weapon ADB.

Melee weapon has 0 MDB.

MDB of a staff and radiant phase armor will be written as Magic Damage on the equipment.



Sorry for my incaccurate expression, I mean in the WTS or WTB section I kept on seeing things like ADB 70% or MDB 100% in the equipment description, how do I check those?

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post Sep 16 2023, 13:51
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QUOTE(56aaaaa @ Sep 16 2023, 19:24) *

Sorry for my incaccurate expression, I mean in the WTS or WTB section I kept on seeing things like ADB 70% or MDB 100% in the equipment description, how do I check those?

Two ways:
  1. Hover over an equipment stat to see its base value. Compare it to the values on the equipment ranges table.
  2. Use the live percentile ranges script. If you don't want to fiddle with tampermonkey stuff just copy the script and paste it into your console (F12).


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post Sep 16 2023, 15:33
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How do you unlock random encounters, it doesn't show up in my battle tab, and when I go to the news page there is nothing at the top of the page. I am very confused.
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post Sep 16 2023, 15:55
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QUOTE(Acetominaphene @ Sep 16 2023, 21:12) *

stamina above 60 is 200% exp, getting that below 60 grant you nothing but 100% exp and a 0.02 stamina cost per round

and I remember that I can start battle at 0 stamina 1 year ago. Not sure if it changes and I have never tested since then. I was able to enter grindfest and random encounter and they all yield with nothing except equipment condition lost.

RIP my stamina (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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I've been playing Isekai a lot the past few days to try to get Floor 30's permanent bonus before the Isekai end date and I accidentally ran out of stamina.
At least I managed to finish The Tower's Floor 26 before taking this screenshot. I'm so close but there's only a few days left and the difficulty will increase from Hell to Nintendo.

What would be a better strategy in this situation: (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
  1. Try to get as much EXP as I can every day before using the last points of stamina of the day attempting The Tower when my level would be higher
  2. Don't do any battles other than attempting The Tower for a few days to let my stamina recover to 60+ first, and then do option 1 but keeping stamina above 60
  3. Something else?
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post Sep 16 2023, 17:55
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How do you unlock random encounters, it doesn't show up in my battle tab, and when I go to the news page there is nothing at the top of the page. I am very confused.


They appear in a box on the news page/galleries, but you have to click it once you see it. If you reload the page or go to another, it disappears. Maybe your browser/adblocker/other plugin is hiding it.

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If you use a script like HV utils, it will let you do them without checking the news page every 30 minutes
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post Sep 16 2023, 23:55
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QUOTE(Evyy @ Sep 15 2023, 19:23) *

I'm using these :

try rapier as a main weapon, penetrated armor should make schoolgirls faster to kill, I believe its better than bleed from shortsword against very high health targets
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post Sep 17 2023, 00:05
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QUOTE(56aaaaa @ Sep 16 2023, 11:24) *

Sorry for my incaccurate expression, I mean in the WTS or WTB section I kept on seeing things like ADB 70% or MDB 100% in the equipment description, how do I check those?


said ADB 70% means 70% percentile in the (usually legendary, sometimes you'll see other ranges but very rare) range. If you are using Superlatanium's script, you may use key A,S,D,F,Z,X,C to toggle different options, or just simply disable the script and you'll always see the raw ADB and MDB point.
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post Sep 17 2023, 01:01
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Is there a benefit to fighting either arena or random encounters at higher difficulty besides increased exp gain? I saw something mentioning it affects drops?

Also, are spells like Haste or Imperil or whatnot worth investing in for onehanded?

Also, how is the best way to use spirit?
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post Sep 17 2023, 02:01
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QUOTE(blastech @ Sep 16 2023, 16:01) *

Is there a benefit to fighting either arena or random encounters at higher difficulty besides increased exp gain? I saw something mentioning it affects drops?

Also, are spells like Haste or Imperil or whatnot worth investing in for onehanded?

Also, how is the best way to use spirit?


Equipment drop quality increases.

Haste is good if you have a survivability issue, imperil is good for killing faster but imperil shines mostly against schoolgirls or after level 310 due to spell upgrades.

For 1h the best use of spirit is usually auto attacking and using spells in spirit stance.
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post Sep 17 2023, 06:53
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