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post May 16 2022, 14:03
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Just heard 1H mage style a week ago, and it seem to be very attractive to me. More safe with a shield, lesser restoratives(lower daily cost than staff mage), faster clear time against non-school girl and ease to switch back to staff mage.

I'm curious about the performance and speed against School Girl of 1H elemental mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 16 2022, 14:11
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ May 16 2022, 12:03) *

Just heard 1H mage style a week ago, and it seem to be very attractive to me. More safe with a shield, lesser restoratives(lower daily cost than staff mage), faster clear time against non-school girl and ease to switch back to staff mage.

I'm curious about the performance and speed against School Girl of 1H elemental mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


The HV Battle Records has 1H mage results. Seems that Nezu's 1H elec mage was about 2.5x slower than his elec mage.
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post May 16 2022, 14:31
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QUOTE(killi890 @ May 16 2022, 19:53) *

That requires purchases of over 40 million before you break even. It's for people who wanna throw away money, not for anyone actually trying to benefit.


Didn't think that much before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Just did little assumption and calculation, and it might take 10+ equipment (buying Catalyst, not fully forge) to break even. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since mage equipment is super expensive to be forge, this Hath Perks may not worth for most people.

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post May 16 2022, 14:35
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ May 16 2022, 20:11) *

The HV Battle Records has 1H mage results. Seems that Nezu's 1H elec mage was about 2.5x slower than his elec mage.


Very useful thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Didn't click on this before, thanks for the recommendation.
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post May 16 2022, 23:17
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QUOTE(Noni @ May 15 2022, 22:11) *

you should definitely forge:
STR DEX END
and if you want to do PFFEST or if you have to cure a lot in IW:
PMIT and MMIT, where P is the most important.
rest is nice to have. (almost) everything helps a bit, so in the end you'll forge the lot. except 1h accuracy, when you have 200% you won't have any benefit of more. And elemental damage on a weapon. Those are useless.


Thank you for the clarification. These are currently my stats on Persistent:

Fighting Style
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30% Overwhelming Strikes on Hit
75% Counter-Attack on Block/Parry

Physical Attack
10182 Attack Base Damage
221.8% Hit Chance
50.3% Crit Chance / +70% Damage
3.7% Attack Speed Bonus

Defense
78.3% Physical Mitigation
76.1% Magical Mitigation
5.1% Evade Chance
64.1% Block Chance
64,6% Parry Chance
24.4% Resist Chance
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post May 17 2022, 05:58
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Trying to increase my clear speeds/upgrade gear in general as a dark mage. At the moment, spamming infusions of darkness, I can clear the 75 and under round arenas in 2.5 - 4mins ea (depends on RNG when casting imperil and if i get hit), 95 round is around 16mins, and the 100 round arena in 20mins (using scrolls of protection and swiftness) consistently. I have demon duality lv 1 perk and i THINK lv 2 might be the most efficient use of credits/hath for more damage at this point. My current stats and gear are:

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Any advice on what order I should upgrade or if I should change anything around?

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post May 17 2022, 07:14
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ May 17 2022, 05:58) *

Trying to increase my clear speeds/upgrade gear in general as a dark mage. At the moment, spamming infusions of darkness, I can clear the 75 and under round arenas in 2.5 - 4mins ea (depends on RNG when casting imperil and if i get hit), 95 round is around 16mins, and the 100 round arena in 20mins (using scrolls of protection and swiftness) consistently. I have demon duality lv 1 perk and i THINK lv 2 might be the most efficient use of credits/hath for more damage at this point. My current stats and gear are:

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legs
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Any advice on what order I should upgrade or if I should change anything around?

for the 100 round arena especially you could do with some radiants. You could first try with only 1 prof slot and see if that speeds the 100 round arena up. Also you can forge your EDB a bit more. But in general, your set is pretty okay. Best action depends on your goals.

If you are going to play for a long time, invest in assimilator + exp training + exp perks and get your proficiency up. Then, change the robe for radiant and use gloves+shoes. If you want quick improvement, do some DD levels first. Every level helps. Even DD9 is noticeable.

Could also be that your imperil gets resisted regularly? In that case go for the depr. prof perk. But it looks like you already have that.

And last: play isekai tower, get more damage bonus.


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post May 17 2022, 08:17
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I’m lucky enough to get this leg rapier of slaughter:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/281011300/0662ea41c1
Will it be worth it for me to soulfuse it and forge it to like 20-30ish? I’m playing 1H heavy.

My other question is, where should I go to find equipments at my level? WTS and Super’s auction is mainly Lv400+ equips, any other sources that I missed? Now I only have an exquisite force shield and cannot even find anything better than that
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post May 17 2022, 08:25
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 17 2022, 08:17) *

I’m lucky enough to get this leg rapier of slaughter:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/281011300/0662ea41c1
Will it be worth it for me to soulfuse it and forge it to like 20-30ish? I’m playing 1H heavy.

My other question is, where should I go to find equipments at my level? WTS and Super’s auction is mainly Lv400+ equips, any other sources that I missed? Now I only have an exquisite force shield and cannot even find anything better than that


Pretty much no reason to ever get a different one. Min-Max wise eventually you may want another one, holy or dark, but the difference in the school girl arenas is really just min-max territory.

As for equip, you won't get anything. Until you are high enough level, self dropped is the way to go. Dump noodles into shield. Sometimes low level things DO pop up, but that's unreliable. (and usually gets comparatively expensive)
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post May 17 2022, 09:09
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QUOTE(killi890 @ May 17 2022, 14:25) *

Pretty much no reason to ever get a different one. Min-Max wise eventually you may want another one, holy or dark, but the difference in the school girl arenas is really just min-max territory.

As for equip, you won't get anything. Until you are high enough level, self dropped is the way to go. Dump noodles into shield. Sometimes low level things DO pop up, but that's unreliable. (and usually gets comparatively expensive)


Thank you for the advice!

The noodles are quite expensive, what should be my strategy then? Like spending ~400k until any mag shield comes out?
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post May 17 2022, 10:42
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 17 2022, 09:09) *

Thank you for the advice!

The noodles are quite expensive, what should be my strategy then? Like spending ~400k until any mag shield comes out?


I was thinking about the ones you get yourself from the Flying Spaghetti Monster rob. It's a matter of luck of course. Here it'd be useful if you had some event trophies like Stocking Stuffers or Shrine Fortunes, as those at least guarantee magnificent quality. But it's not like you get that in Isekai either, so there it's also dumping noodles into the shield category, till something usable comes out, if you want to 1h. It works. Eventually. I went through that twice already.
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post May 17 2022, 14:21
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 17 2022, 15:09) *

Thank you for the advice!

The noodles are quite expensive, what should be my strategy then? Like spending ~400k until any mag shield comes out?

Push your defense to Canon PFDOR random encounter.
You are already half way done with a legendary rapier and soul fused and IWed.

Others, just a matter of time. Fast or slow.
Try spend some ability point on Supportive spells.
You will see the difference, especially on LV330

If you have excessive MP at the end of Random encounter, try using some support and depre magic.
You should gather some useful proficiency now.

For equipment, as you are half way done.
You may pay some effort and patience to wait the equipment.
Either drop you own equipment or shop a legendary is suggested. At least you can waste some soul and use that for a foreseeable long time. Probably for next 100 LV.
By the time you notice, you will be full of Mag and Leg equipment.

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post May 17 2022, 14:46
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 17 2022, 15:09) *

Thank you for the advice!

The noodles are quite expensive, what should be my strategy then? Like spending ~400k until any mag shield comes out?


You may find a 34%+ block chance force shield from system shop and upgrade to 20lv. And you can use it till you replace your shield again on 400lv+. That's totally "enough" for 1H style for a long long time if you can't wait.
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post May 17 2022, 15:01
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I used to consider Ether Theft as a way to not lose MP so easily, or even regenerate them, if the enemy last long enough.
But right now, after a while, I went back to my melee fighter, and it's not working the way I remember:
1.Initially, the enemy got MP, so the effect work as I remember, regularly draining PM from the enemy.
2.The enemy MP reach 0.
3.The enemy MP never regenerate while the ether theft is in place, and no MP is stolen anymore.

Is that a new ~feature~ I missed?

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post May 18 2022, 11:58
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What monster type should I choose? I know they all have their own pros and cons, but what is the best, in terms of like resistances and strengths against the most common stuff that players use?
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post May 18 2022, 12:50
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My current goal is to save 100m to buy a gold star. Now I’m very far from this goal, I’m still below lv300, and my build(1h heavy) is able to clear POFDOR SG arenas, but very slow with a lot of cures.

What should be the fastest way for me to achieve my goal? My current plan is to clear SG arenas and sell trophies everyday, save up ~20m first to get a 1H fire mage(it is the least costly, right?), and then continue clearing SG arenas and sell trophies everyday(I don’t think I have time for more than a few arenas, and I assume selling trophies have the highest yield per time)

Could anyone point out the flaws in my plan, or simply provide a better one? Thank you!
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post May 18 2022, 13:14
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 18 2022, 18:50) *

My current goal is to save 100m to buy a gold star. Now I’m very far from this goal, I’m still below lv300, and my build(1h heavy) is able to clear POFDOR SG arenas, but very slow with a lot of cures.

What should be the fastest way for me to achieve my goal? My current plan is to clear SG arenas and sell trophies everyday, save up ~20m first to get a 1H fire mage(it is the least costly, right?), and then continue clearing SG arenas and sell trophies everyday(I don’t think I have time for more than a few arenas, and I assume selling trophies have the highest yield per time)

Could anyone point out the flaws in my plan, or simply provide a better one? Thank you!

3000 HATH
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post May 18 2022, 13:26
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 18 2022, 18:50) *

My current goal is to save 100m to buy a gold star. Now I’m very far from this goal, I’m still below lv300, and my build(1h heavy) is able to clear POFDOR SG arenas, but very slow with a lot of cures.

What should be the fastest way for me to achieve my goal? My current plan is to clear SG arenas and sell trophies everyday, save up ~20m first to get a 1H fire mage(it is the least costly, right?), and then continue clearing SG arenas and sell trophies everyday(I don’t think I have time for more than a few arenas, and I assume selling trophies have the highest yield per time)

Could anyone point out the flaws in my plan, or simply provide a better one? Thank you!


I would recommend you to buy directly, remember that the Gold Star price is continually rising, so even you don't spend credits it would still take you long time. For me it take me 1.5+year to buy it, and the price was 85M at that time, also I play DW all the time before I got GS and spent almost nothing. But yeah if you want to buy with credits I think beat SGs it the good way, and mage is good for saving time

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post May 18 2022, 13:27
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QUOTE(guestbook @ May 18 2022, 19:14) *

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for multiple auto cast and +10% damage


I already have two auto slots, I did not get the third one because spirit shield has same cd as regen, and regen cannot be auto-casted anyway, so I’d rather always cast the two together. And 1H heavy doesn’t use haste nor sv. Or is it that my understanding is incorrect?

Will 10% damage reduce my time taken to clean arenas? It sounds a bit counterintuitive.
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post May 18 2022, 13:47
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 18 2022, 13:27) *

I already have two auto slots, I did not get the third one because spirit shield has same cd as regen, and regen cannot be auto-casted anyway, so I’d rather always cast the two together. And 1H heavy doesn’t use haste nor sv. Or is it that my understanding is incorrect?

Will 10% damage reduce my time taken to clean arenas? It sounds a bit counterintuitive.

1h uses haste. 1h can also use Shadow Veil. It depends on your strength.

Haste drastically reduces damage taken, while having barely a negative impact. Even with my level, tests without Haste still showed it's not enough of an advantage to counter the disadvantage of not using it.
Shadow Veil is something that I do not use in persistent anymore, but in Isekai I sometimes go with it, when safety > all.


Also I'd not rush the mage. People love to overestimate a mage advantage (especially 1h mage). The HV Battle Records thread shows you that 1h melee is much faster than 1h mage in school girl arenas. In general, 1h melee might not be fun to play in school girl arenas, but is one of the absolute best, after a full on high level/power mage.

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