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post Mar 1 2018, 12:43
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 13:29) *

tiny difference, but B4F5 is a little bit better I think


I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

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post Mar 1 2018, 12:59
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Mar 1 2018, 18:43) *

I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

what do you mean void strike and element strike can't be critical? They are just subtypes of physical attack I suppose.
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post Mar 1 2018, 13:10
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 1 2018, 12:08) *

I think +ice infuse is better than holy/dark infuse because you can maximize the damage with the flame spike...

Wait, flame spikes only decrease ele mitigation by 25, while most mlab monsters on average have more elemental resistance, and the difference is about 25(lvl0) - 12.5(lvl50) for most. So in the end difference is very slight, considering you aren't always hitting the ones with spike debuff. And then there are SGs, where holy/dark is absolutely superior, since 3 hardest ones have 75 ele and 0 h/d res, so only Konata gonna take a bit more damage from your spike/infusion combo. So why would ice infusion be better? Well, it should be cheaper because its worse, so theres that.
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post Mar 1 2018, 13:16
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 17:59) *

what do you mean void strike and element strike can't be critical? They are just subtypes of physical attack I suppose.


Yes, they are physical subtypes. So Butcher will boot their damage but Fatality can not

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post Mar 1 2018, 13:20
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 1 2018, 10:47) *

I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?

i did a test a while ago with an axe. not sure if i did also holy + dark though
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post Mar 1 2018, 15:53
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Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?
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post Mar 1 2018, 15:59
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Trying to ask again, what is the best IW for a Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo and for an Axe of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo?
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post Mar 1 2018, 16:37
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 1 2018, 14:53) *

Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?

i'd say the next dawn. in the doubt, visit the perk page again though

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 1 2018, 14:59) *

Trying to ask again, what is the best IW for a Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo and for an Axe of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo?

in the first case i'd say B5F4/B4F5 for both, but don't reset a couple OP if they appear.
in the second, i'd say whatever combo of B, F and O on mainhand + F5O4/F4O5 on offhand
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post Mar 1 2018, 16:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 1 2018, 15:37) *

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So basically, if i'd like to use the same Rapier for both combos, i'm going to have to compromise
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post Mar 1 2018, 18:05
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Why is it that ever single drop I get of moderate quality either cloth or a staff?
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post Mar 1 2018, 18:26
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 1 2018, 10:47) *

I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?

Well, i have tested and imo Holy + Ice is supperior to Holy + Dark.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 1 2018, 11:08) *

So that's why so many players want ice infuse..


Jup, that is the reason why.

QUOTE(sangerex @ Mar 1 2018, 11:43) *

I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

Well, it depends, if you have reached or are close to endgame damage, B5F4 is actually better as B4F5. There is was (what the hell?) even a whole topic about the whole numbers and such. Long story short, above 10K ABD B5F4 for below B4F5. Ask DJNoni and Scremaz what they did with the numbers if you dont believe me.

QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 1 2018, 14:53) *

Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?

Iirc it is the same day.

QUOTE(Hichhightest @ Mar 1 2018, 17:05) *

Why is it that ever single drop I get of moderate quality either cloth or a staff?


What do you mean by moderate quality? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So, my work is done, i have to go now. My planet needs me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Mar 1 2018, 20:10
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 1 2018, 15:43) *

So basically, if i'd like to use the same Rapier for both combos, i'm going to have to compromise

definitely. either that, or use two different rapiers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 2 2018, 02:00
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So, I've been saving up on all the things that my monsters have been gifting me. I currently have two legendary arctic rapiers of slaughter that are both maxed out on potency through item world.

Which do I invest in for upgrading? Or should I upgrade both, since I use one in my current 1-h power build and both in my current dual-shade build?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129020239/181044906c

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/105472630/5c41f07d06

Also, I can't sell or trade these because their soulbound right? Is it better to just hold onto these for future build adjustments?
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post Mar 2 2018, 03:52
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Mar 2 2018, 07:00) *

So, I've been saving up on all the things that my monsters have been gifting me. I currently have two legendary arctic rapiers of slaughter that are both maxed out on potency through item world.

Which do I invest in for upgrading? Or should I upgrade both, since I use one in my current 1-h power build and both in my current dual-shade build?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129020239/181044906c

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/105472630/5c41f07d06

Also, I can't sell or trade these because their soulbound right? Is it better to just hold onto these for future build adjustments?


Why do you have the exact same 2 arctic rapiers? Wow, that's amazing i think. I don't know the details about DW build, some experts said rapier+club is good because you got PA and stunned but i don't know about 2 rapiers build..

For 1h build you should go for the second rapier but you have to change the potencies like your first one. So i think the second rapier is good to go for upgrades...

If you have more credits to spend, i think you should buy a better rapier that have more than 60%-70% damage...

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post Mar 2 2018, 04:14
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 2 2018, 09:52) *

Why do you have the exact same 2 arctic rapiers?

For max coolness I think? Like how I have dark and holy rapiers
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post Mar 2 2018, 06:35
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 1 2018, 17:52) *

Why do you have the exact same 2 arctic rapiers? Wow, that's amazing i think. I don't know the details about DW build, some experts said rapier+club is good because you got PA and stunned but i don't know about 2 rapiers build..

For 1h build you should go for the second rapier but you have to change the potencies like your first one. So i think the second rapier is good to go for upgrades...

If you have more credits to spend, i think you should buy a better rapier that have more than 60%-70% damage...


From what I remember correctly, I got both rapiers when I put those stocking stuffer trophies into the shrine. I don't know if that's possible, but I really did get both rapiers at the same time. I later got a legendary arctic club from a random monster drop some time later.

Thanks for the advice. I'll post some of my other gear so that the players more knowledgeable than me can take a look. I'm always looking to get some useful tips and advice for my HV experience.
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post Mar 2 2018, 12:45
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Mar 2 2018, 05:35) *

I don't know if that's possible, but I really did get both rapiers at the same time.

why not? we're in RNG realm afterall.

however, i'd go with the B4F4 one. if you want to try DW style as well, simply find a Nimble Waki to pair it up with.
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post Mar 2 2018, 16:44
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/14982842/d808ed7c58
hi im wondering about this ,yes i read about the range chart and
How do I know my equipment is good/worth and how/where to sell it? from here
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=192652
but my axe base is even lower than 55.45 from the chart ( exquisite + slaughter + min ) ,or my axe is just really really shitty
and one more thing ,the chart showed attack crit bonus ,but i have 2 Attack Crit Chance and Attack Crit Damage
so hows that attack crit bonus fit in ?
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post Mar 2 2018, 16:55
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QUOTE(Quzzimi @ Mar 2 2018, 15:44) *

but my axe base is even lower than 55.45 from the chart ( exquisite + slaughter + min ) ,or my axe is just really really shitty


Yeah, that can happen, afaik the numbers of those ranges are all just from normal users, so it can happen that an piece of equipment appears that is outside of the ranges.

QUOTE(Quzzimi @ Mar 2 2018, 15:44) *

and one more thing ,the chart showed attack crit bonus ,but i have 2 Attack Crit Chance and Attack Crit Damage
so hows that attack crit bonus fit in ?
tks for your time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

What you see in the chart is Attack Crit Chance, the chance for a crit attack, the attack crit damage is only for the damage bonus a crit attack does get because of crit.
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post Mar 2 2018, 16:58
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 2 2018, 16:55) *

Yeah, that can happen, afaik the numbers of those ranges are all just from normal users, so it can happen that an piece of equipment appears that is outside of the ranges.
What you see in the chart is Attack Crit Chance, the chance for a crit attack, the attack crit damage is only for the damage bonus a crit attack does get because of crit.

thank you for the explanation
i was so hyped when i got that ether axe , and then .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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