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post Aug 1 2021, 04:38
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Thank you for your kind answer.
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post Aug 1 2021, 11:05
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How much does the Metabolism and Inspiration training perks for HV Persistent improve my current list of monsters?

Does maxing them out allow me to not feed my creatures for longer periods of time?
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post Aug 1 2021, 11:27
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Aug 1 2021, 11:05) *

How much does the Metabolism and Inspiration training perks for HV Persistent improve my current list of monsters?

Does maxing them out allow me to not feed my creatures for longer periods of time?

slow the rate by 5% per level

These trainings are not recommended unless you have tons of credits and just want to waste them

hath perk "That's Good Eatin'" is also not recommended, but "Extra Strength Formula" might be worthwhile if you have hundreds of high level monsters
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post Aug 1 2021, 11:52
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Aug 1 2021, 02:27) *

slow the rate by 5% per level

These trainings are not recommended unless you have tons of credits and just want to waste them

hath perk "That's Good Eatin'" is also not recommended, but "Extra Strength Formula" might be worthwhile if you have hundreds of high level monsters


Would it be better for me to spend my credits for hath instead, then? I do not have that many monsters right now, though they are all reaching the higher levels.
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post Aug 1 2021, 12:17
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Aug 1 2021, 11:52) *

Would it be better for me to spend my credits for hath instead, then? I do not have that many monsters right now, though they are all reaching the higher levels.

"Extra Strength Formula" costs 2m, equals to 4000 happy pills, it should take a year or years to recover your cost if you have 100+ monsters.
For "That's Good Eatin'" and the trainings. it's impossible to recover the cost during human's lifetime.
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post Aug 1 2021, 17:03
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Maybe I should not post here but the auction post has been closed so I cannot post there. Please tell me if there is an appropriate place to post such problem.

So as you guys may have known that something happened in this week's auction. As Tenboro said that rulersex's items were removed from the auction as they were stolen items. I won another item from MinamiYumi (Clo60) but Super MM me without the equip attached. The message is purely text and seems to be auto-generated with the auction info. I checked the post during auction time and it was weird that the owner of this equip was Grandmasters, which is strange because I remember that the owner of auction items are all MoogleMail during auction time.

So far I have MM super but I don't think he will check his MM and reply me soon. Anyone could help who is the person to contact? The auction post has been closed and I cannot post there.

Completely no idea what happened, I guess in the worst case, I simply wasted my time in the auction and the item just stays in Grandmasters's hand.

P.S. If I should not post such things here, I will edit and delete immediately. Sorry about that guys.
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post Aug 1 2021, 17:49
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 1 2021, 15:03) *

Maybe I should not post here but the auction post has been closed so I cannot post there. Please tell me if there is an appropriate place to post such problem.

So as you guys may have known that something happened in this week's auction. As Tenboro said that rulersex's items were removed from the auction as they were stolen items. I won another item from MinamiYumi (Clo60) but Super MM me without the equip attached. The message is purely text and seems to be auto-generated with the auction info. I checked the post during auction time and it was weird that the owner of this equip was Grandmasters, which is strange because I remember that the owner of auction items are all MoogleMail during auction time.

So far I have MM super but I don't think he will check his MM and reply me soon. Anyone could help who is the person to contact? The auction post has been closed and I cannot post there.

Completely no idea what happened, I guess in the worst case, I simply wasted my time in the auction and the item just stays in Grandmasters's hand.

P.S. If I should not post such things here, I will edit and delete immediately. Sorry about that guys.


I expect that Tenb removing the stolen equipment broke Super's scripts. He usually checks things manually at some point, so this will be fixed Soon™.

I tend to agree with Noni that it would be better if we did not have an absentee auctioneer.
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post Aug 1 2021, 18:10
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 1 2021, 15:03) *

Maybe I should not post here but the auction post has been closed so I cannot post there. Please tell me if there is an appropriate place to post such problem.


Better describe your situation here.

Obviously dont pay cod if there is cod attached - no item, no money. I could guess that item was affected by Tenboro's "return items to real owners" actions, so maybe next week it will appear on auction again.
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post Aug 1 2021, 18:16
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It was probably grandmasters' stuff too. Have you checked the profile of the seller? maybe you'll find something if you do
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post Aug 1 2021, 18:18
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 2 2021, 00:03) *

So as you guys may have known that something happened in this week's auction. As Tenboro said that rulersex's items were removed from the auction as they were stolen items. I won another item from MinamiYumi (Clo60) but Super MM me without the equip attached. The message is purely text and seems to be auto-generated with the auction info. I checked the post during auction time and it was weird that the owner of this equip was Grandmasters, which is strange because I remember that the owner of auction items are all MoogleMail during auction time.


the one that got hacked was grandmasters, so it is possible that rulersex was not the only account that sent stolen items to the auction.
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post Aug 1 2021, 18:31
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roll call to all people with access to lv500 arena. we need info to compile this table: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/System_Monsters#Ponies

basically, names of ponies skills and their nature (MP/SP, physical/magical, fire/slashing/void...)
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post Aug 1 2021, 19:32
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Aug 1 2021, 07:49) *

I expect that Tenb removing the stolen equipment broke Super's scripts. He usually checks things manually at some point, so this will be fixed Soon™.

I tend to agree with Noni that it would be better if we did not have an absentee auctioneer.


OK, makes sense. Thanks.

QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 1 2021, 08:10) *

Better describe your situation here.

Obviously dont pay cod if there is cod attached - no item, no money. I could guess that item was affected by Tenboro's "return items to real owners" actions, so maybe next week it will appear on auction again.


OK, will post there next time. Thanks.

QUOTE(lololo16 @ Aug 1 2021, 08:16) *

It was probably grandmasters' stuff too. Have you checked the profile of the seller? maybe you'll find something if you do


Yea, I checked. The item (Clo60), whose listed owner on auction page, is MinamiYume. I checked his profile, nothing strange all looks ok. He also attended the last auction (auction 277).

QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 1 2021, 08:18) *

the one that got hacked was grandmasters, so it is possible that rulersex was not the only account that sent stolen items to the auction.


The weird thing is that when you want to sell something, you MM it to Super, and Super will leave it in MoogleMail (otherwise his own equip slot might be full as everyone will send equips to him). So during the auction, we can see that the owner of all the equips are MoogleMail. However, this time I do see some equips has owner Grandmasters. If Grandmasters' account was hacked, definitely the hacker plays HV and are familiar with HV otherwise how could a random hacker know this auction and sent equips to Super? What confused me is, if Grandmasters was hacked, then why he has other people's auction items? When someone want to sell something in auction, they sent them to Super right? Why they are at Grandmasters pocket?

EDIT: Nevermind, I just read the post about this hacking event. I think I know what happened now. Everyone stay safe.

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post Aug 1 2021, 20:10
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 1 2021, 18:32) *

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What confused me is, if Grandmasters was hacked, then why he has other people's auction items? When someone want to sell something in auction, they sent them to Super right? Why they are at Grandmasters pocket?


There's no confusion. Yes, GM was hacked; but the equips stolen from him was not just his own. He also had some equips of other players, who had sent it to him for IW service. And they didn't end up just in one account (multiple accounts were involved, in an effort to "hide the tracks" you could say), as stated by Tenboro himself.

FYI, I had sent a staff to him for IW a few weeks ago. It was also robbed, and though it didn't end up in auction ( possibly because it wasn't good enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) I could see it was then in the hands of MinamiYume.

So also MinamiYume had items that weren't his (don't know if legitimately, for instance having bought them unknowingly from the hacker, or otherwise).

The net effect is that Tenboro reverted all those transactions. So also items in auction from MinamiYume have been returned to Grandmasters, correctly. He will then send back to each of his clients what is theirs.

I think you won't find those things in next auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Aug 1 2021, 21:28
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So MinamiYume was one of hacked accounts, now it make sense.
Wonder how many were involved in total...
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post Aug 2 2021, 03:22
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Aug 1 2021, 10:10) *

There's no confusion. Yes, GM was hacked; but the equips stolen from him was not just his own. He also had some equips of other players, who had sent it to him for IW service. And they didn't end up just in one account (multiple accounts were involved, in an effort to "hide the tracks" you could say), as stated by Tenboro himself.

FYI, I had sent a staff to him for IW a few weeks ago. It was also robbed, and though it didn't end up in auction ( possibly because it wasn't good enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) I could see it was then in the hands of MinamiYume.

So also MinamiYume had items that weren't his (don't know if legitimately, for instance having bought them unknowingly from the hacker, or otherwise).

The net effect is that Tenboro reverted all those transactions. So also items in auction from MinamiYume have been returned to Grandmasters, correctly. He will then send back to each of his clients what is theirs.

I think you won't find those things in next auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Maybe you have noticed that I was the one posted IW service request right after you in Grandmasters' shop. I don't know if he did the free IW service for you, but for me, I was unlucky. He said welcome and he accepted my request and will do the free IW service for me, then I sent him my staff, he read the MM message but did not take the staff. I waited 2 weeks and he did not take the staff. Finally, there is nothing I could do but recall my staff and asked 프레이 (Cafe Pray IW service in WTS) to do the 5p4s for me. I knew I should not blame him, after all, Grandmaster was providing a discounted IW service, not a regular full price IW service, but if he could not do it, it would be better to tell me rather than disappearing and ignoring my MM for 2 weeks. I was a little unhappy for that before because I wasted 2 weeks. Now I guess maybe his account had been hacked at time and that's why he did not do the IW service?

At least My Staff was pretty trash and did not get stolen lol (bought it at 2m and was told by a top hardcore player later that I got a little bit ripped off for paying 2m with this staff at "crude" condition).

QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 1 2021, 11:28) *

So MinamiYume was one of hacked accounts, now it make sense.
Wonder how many were involved in total...


Yea, now everything makes sense, hope our community can fix this issue soon.
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post Aug 2 2021, 04:54
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I noticed that some 1H uses OFC in PGC and SPL...
Why though??? I thought OFC isn't effective in SG arena???
Does it due to mob's HP are higher, so just using VS alone is inefficient???
Or maybe just for convenient issue??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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post Aug 2 2021, 04:55
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Aug 2 2021, 03:54) *

I noticed that some 1H uses OFC in PGC and SPL...
Why though??? I thought OFC isn't effective in SG arena???
Does it due to mob's HP are higher, so just using VS alone is inefficient???
Or maybe just for convenient issue??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


If you're looking at my results, it's because I have Manehattan Project (among other things that make my damage really high) - so I can 1-shot even schoolgirls with it.

But for most people, just using VS is generally better.
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post Aug 2 2021, 05:00
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Well i cant talk for others, but i just wanted to test it at first, because after i played 1H the last time i got some additional damage forging, 3 level of DD, the additional isekai pab and the tower bonus. It didnt really worked out as i was hoping. For someone with a slaughter build the reason can be to get rid of more monster faster, nothing i would care about, i mean even with PGC and SPL before 10bo did reduce the HP of the endmonster and the SG i only had to heal four time in the SPL on a friyday. I was still impressed tho.

But now that i think about it, i never tried the OFC after 10bo did reduce their HP. Maybe i could give it another try. I mean i read so often from low level player that they use the OFC with success against them. Not that i have ever seen that myself.
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post Aug 2 2021, 05:00
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Aug 2 2021, 09:55) *

If you're looking at my results, it's because I have Manehattan Project (among other things that make my damage really high) - so I can 1-shot even schoolgirls with it.

But for most people, just using VS is generally better.

I think I saw Basara and Uncle using it too...
Does they also have the perks???

Edit:
Now i rechecked again, they also use it in DwD, VS + OFC...

@Uncle...
IIRC I already tried using only OFC 2 year ago on legacy DWD...
Turn wise, VS only is better...
Maybe my dmg is still not enough???

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post Aug 2 2021, 05:01
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Aug 2 2021, 05:00) *

Does they also have the perks???

Manehattan Project? Nope, didnt had that many hath to waste so far.
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