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post Jun 13 2016, 14:32
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This is the thread for discussion of my auctions. For a while, most discussion had been going on in the Ask the Experts thread where I usually hang out, but I figured it was time to create a dedicated topic more suited to the purpose.

Feel free to make post suggestions, complaints, comments, or anything remotely related to auctions in general. The more feedback, the better - this is all for you guys, after all.

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Should the minimum bid increments be changed? Post #5+

Don't send trash that has no chance of getting bid on Post #60+

Limit of 3 proxy bids due to minimum increment advantage Post #94+

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Please send items individually so the unauctionable items can be returned. To send mails quickly, I recommend using HV Toolbox



Detailed stats of auctioned equips, taken from Percentile Ranges:




Last updated Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:59:18 GMT


One-Handed

[One01] Peerless Hallowed Rapier of the Nimble (337, ADB 100%, Parry 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, Agi 100%) ()
[One02] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (430, ADB 4%, Parry 32%, Str 91%, Dex 5%, Agi 80%) ()
[One03] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (429, ADB 31%, Parry 18%, Str 19%, Dex 53%, Agi 52%) ()
[One04] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (354, ADB 45%, Parry 80%, Str 30%, Dex 36%, Agi 7%) ()
[One05] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 88%, Parry 2%, Str 41%, Dex 98%, Agi 30%) ()
[One06] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 78%, Parry 67%, Str 69%, Dex 39%, Agi 41%) ()
[One07] Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter (480, ADB 16%, Parry 56%, Str 96%, Dex 60%, Agi 52%) ()
[One08] Legendary Demonic Rapier of the Nimble (409, ADB 82%, Parry 71%, Str 13%, Dex 80%, Agi 30%) ()
[One09] Legendary Demonic Rapier of the Battlecaster (401, ADB 68%, Parry 70%, Str 19%, Dex 53%, Agi 41%) ()
[One10] Legendary Tempestuous Club of Slaughter (500, IW 10, ADB 54%, Str 67%, Dex 69%, Agi 74%) ()
[One11] Legendary Shocking Axe of Slaughter (302, ADB 94%, Str 25%, Dex 2%, Agi 72%) ()
[One12] Legendary Shocking Axe of Slaughter (266, ADB 60%, Str 94%, Dex 2%, Agi 26%) ()
[One13] Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of Slaughter (500, ADB 80%, Parry 8%, Str 49%, Dex 36%, Agi 72%) ()
[One14] Legendary Tempestuous Wakizashi of the Nimble (432, ADB 52%, Parry 20%, Str 95%, Dex 77%, Agi 10%) ()
[One15] Legendary Fiery Wakizashi of the Nimble (407, ADB 92%, Parry 34%, Str 97%, Dex 37%, Agi 5%) ()
[One16] Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of Balance (471, ADB 1%, Parry 72%, Str 56%, Dex 13%, Agi 98%) ()
[One17] Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of Balance (500, IW 10, ADB 77%, Parry 26%, Str 36%, Dex 34%, Agi 73%) ()
[One18] Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of Swiftness (500, ADB 61%, Parry 15%, Str 56%, Dex 98%, Agi 1%) ()
[One19] Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of Swiftness (500, ADB 45%, Parry 87%, Str 36%, Dex 28%, Agi 96%) ()
[One20] Peerless Demonic Shortsword of Slaughter (479, ADB 100%, Parry 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, Agi 100%) ()
[One21] Legendary Demonic Shortsword of Slaughter (500, IW 10, ADB 64%, Parry 39%, Str 70%, Dex 43%, Agi 67%) ()
[One22] Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of the Battlecaster (377, ADB 89%, Parry 18%, Str 74%, Dex 22%, Agi 46%) ()


Two-Handed

[Two01] Legendary Tempestuous Katana of Slaughter (387, ADB 69%, Str 72%, Dex 10%, Agi 49%) ()
[Two02] Legendary Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter (500, ADB 78%, Str 58%, Dex 94%, Agi 86%) ()
[Two03] Legendary Tempestuous Estoc of Slaughter (500, IW 10, ADB 90%, Str 72%, Dex 63%, Agi 60%) ()
[Two04] Peerless Fiery Mace of Balance (432, ADB 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, Agi 100%) ()
[Two05] Legendary Demonic Longsword of the Battlecaster (500, IW 10, ADB 35%, Str 61%, Dex 16%, Agi 30%) ()


Staff

[Sta01] Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (500, MDB 88%, Int 16%, Wis 41%, Dark EDB 26%, Forb Prof 98%, Depr Prof 98%, CR 80%, Burden 50%) ()
[Sta02] Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction (365, MDB 47%, Int 53%, Wis 68%, Elec EDB 43%, Elem Prof 31%, Depr Prof 91%, CR 62%, Burden 22%) ()
[Sta03] Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction (500, MDB 70%, Int 54%, Wis 9%, Elec EDB 44%, Elem Prof 84%, Depr Prof 84%, CR 84%, Burden 39%) ()
[Sta04] Legendary Arctic Willow Staff of Destruction (500, MDB 36%, Int 61%, Wis 8%, Cold EDB 35%, Elem Prof 15%, Depr Prof 50%, CR 74%, Burden 39%) ()
[Sta05] Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction (500, MDB 56%, Int 56%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 44%, Elem Prof 56%, Depr Prof 86%, Burden 72%) ()
[Sta06] Legendary Shocking Redwood Staff of the Elementalist (500, MDB 45%, Int 45%, Wis 69%, Elec EDB 34%, Elem Prof 4%, Depr Prof 59%, Burden 6%) ()
[Sta07] Legendary Arctic Redwood Staff of Niflheim (500, IW 10, MDB 20%, Int 93%, Wis 38%, Cold EDB 22%, Elem Prof 97%, Depr Prof 12%, Burden 39%) ()
[Sta08] Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Niflheim (500, IW 10, MDB 59%, Int 83%, Wis 79%, Fire EDB 21%, Elem Prof 78%, Depr Prof 91%, Burden 61%) ()
[Sta09] Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction (500, MDB 44%, Int 28%, Wis 10%, Dark EDB 86%, Forb Prof 52%, Depr Prof 86%, Burden 36%) ()
[Sta10] Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Fenrir (500, MDB 34%, Int 11%, Wis 9%, Dark EDB 23%, Forb Prof 4%, Depr Prof 65%, Burden 68%) ()
[Sta11] Peerless Shocking Oak Staff of the Earth-walker (442, MDB 100%, Int 99%, Wis 99%, Elec EDB 100%, Elem Prof 100%, CR 100%, Burden 0%) ()
[Sta12] Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall (338, MDB 39%, Int 87%, Wis 3%, Holy EDB 29%, Divine Prof 87%, CR 31%, Burden 11%) ()
[Sta13] Legendary Ethereal Oak Staff of Heimdall (398, MDB 10%, Int 65%, Wis 14%, CR 14%) ()
[Sta14] Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall (407, Int 0%, Divine Prof 16%, CR 22%, Burden 161%) ()


Shield

[Shd01] Legendary Cobalt Force Shield of Stoneskin (500, Str Dex End, BLK 84%, Pmit 26%, Mmit 22%, Str 63%, Dex 95%, End 10%, Slas 45%) ()
[Shd02] Peerless Mithril Buckler of the Battlecaster (439, Str Dex Agi, BLK 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, Agi 100%) ()
[Shd03] Legendary Reinforced Buckler of Protection (386, Str Dex End, BLK 54%, Pmit 15%, Mmit 46%, Str 95%, Dex 51%, End 80%, Crus 11%, Pier 95%) ()


Cloth

[Clo01] Peerless Onyx Phase Robe of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 100%, Int 100%, Wis 100%, Evd 100%, Agi 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Crus 100%) ()
[Clo02] Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 53%, MDB 34%, Int 32%, Wis 94%, Evd 6%, Agi 55%, Pmit 68%, Mmit 23%, Crus 87%) ()
[Clo03] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 13%, MDB 29%, Int 18%, Wis 18%, Evd 92%, Agi 10%, Pmit 81%, Mmit 54%, Crus 35%) ()
[Clo04] Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall (463, Holy EDB 14%, Int 93%, Wis 68%, Cast Speed 24%, Evd 97%, Agi 85%, Pmit 8%, Mmit 15%, Crus 41%) ()
[Clo05] Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 49%, Int 12%, Wis 24%, Cast Speed 50%, Evd 81%, Agi 17%, Pmit 20%, Mmit 75%, Crus 62%) ()
[Clo06] Legendary Mystic Phase Shoes of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 86%, Int 49%, Wis 63%, Evd 19%, Agi 17%, Pmit 71%, Mmit 67%, Crus 70%) ()
[Clo07] Legendary Jade Phase Robe of Heimdall (426, Holy EDB 90%, Int 57%, Wis 52%, Evd 4%, Agi 22%, Pmit 39%, Mmit 9%, Crus 34%) ()
[Clo08] Legendary Zircon Phase Pants of Heimdall (500, Holy EDB 94%, Int 86%, Wis 6%, Evd 86%, Agi 90%, Pmit 17%, Mmit 78%, Crus 87%) ()
[Clo09] Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Heaven-sent (500, Divine Prof 60%, Int 42%, Wis 53%, Cast Speed 63%, Evd 2%, Agi 47%, Pmit 98%, Mmit 63%, Crus 41%) ()
[Clo10] Legendary Ruby Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent (301, IW 7, Divine Prof 81%, Int 13%, Wis 25%, Evd 59%, Agi 84%, Pmit 0%, Mmit 0%, Crus 50%) ()
[Clo11] Legendary Amber Cotton Shoes of the Heaven-sent (398, Divine Prof 22%, Int 75%, Wis 49%, Evd 65%, Agi 27%, Pmit 42%, Mmit 0%, Crus 59%) ()
[Clo12] Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Fenrir (429, Dark EDB 10%, MDB 29%, Int 81%, Wis 37%, Evd 91%, Agi 79%, Pmit 42%, Mmit 54%, Crus 79%) ()
[Clo13] Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Fenrir (500, Dark EDB 27%, Int 84%, Wis 45%, Cast Speed 78%, Evd 90%, Agi 1%, Pmit 98%, Mmit 31%, Crus 28%) ()
[Clo14] Legendary Mystic Phase Pants of Fenrir (496, Dark EDB 97%, Int 48%, Wis 78%, Evd 2%, Agi 38%, Pmit 81%, Mmit 70%, Crus 35%) ()
[Clo15] Legendary Mystic Phase Robe of Fenrir (385, Dark EDB 23%, Int 54%, Wis 33%, Evd 34%, Agi 88%, Pmit 73%, Mmit 35%, Crus 69%) ()
[Clo16] Magnificent Frugal Phase Robe of Fenrir (426, Int 1%, Evd 1%) ()
[Clo17] Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend (500, Forb Prof 74%, Int 39%, Wis 89%, Cast Speed 94%, Evd 97%, Agi 25%, Pmit 27%, Mmit 46%, Crus 17%) ()
[Clo18] Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Demon-fiend (500, Forb Prof 90%, Int 90%, Wis 1%, Cast Speed 13%, Evd 33%, Agi 22%, Pmit 75%, Mmit 89%, Crus 38%) ()
[Clo19] Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend (434, Forb Prof 68%, Int 67%, Wis 34%, Cast Speed 33%, Evd 88%, Agi 87%, Pmit 33%, Mmit 67%, Crus 94%) ()
[Clo20] Legendary Charged Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend (442, Forb Prof 34%, Int 68%, Wis 20%, Cast Speed 74%, Evd 85%, Agi 42%, Pmit 85%, Mmit 42%, Crus 10%) ()
[Clo21] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend (500, Forb Prof 93%, Int 45%, Wis 84%, Cast Speed 26%, Evd 97%, Agi 51%, Pmit 75%, Mmit 26%, Crus 24%) ()
[Clo22] Magnificent Charged Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend (452, Wis 16%, Cast Speed 12%, Pmit 15%) ()
[Clo23] Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Freyr (475, IW 10, Wind EDB 34%, MDB 48%, Int 33%, Wis 33%, Evd 57%, Agi 0%, Pmit 6%, Mmit 57%, Crus 4%) ()
[Clo24] Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Freyr (490, Wind EDB 14%, Int 45%, Wis 45%, Cast Speed 24%, Evd 88%, Agi 98%, Pmit 3%, Mmit 50%, Crus 79%) ()
[Clo25] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Freyr (500, Wind EDB 49%, Int 33%, Wis 1%, Cast Speed 74%, Evd 76%, Agi 61%, Pmit 26%, Mmit 42%, Crus 6%) ()
[Clo26] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Freyr (482, Wind EDB 41%, Int 53%, Wis 43%, Cast Speed 13%, Evd 60%, Agi 52%, Pmit 62%, Mmit 54%, Crus 23%) ()
[Clo27] Legendary Mystic Phase Robe of Freyr (379, Wind EDB 82%, Int 94%, Wis 84%, Evd 12%, Agi 96%, Pmit 7%, Mmit 75%, Crus 9%) ()
[Clo28] Legendary Frugal Phase Pants of Freyr (431, Wind EDB 48%, Int 53%, Wis 5%, Evd 13%, Agi 43%, Pmit 19%, Mmit 60%, Crus 74%) ()
[Clo29] Legendary Jade Phase Cap of Freyr (418, Wind EDB 23%, Int 70%, Wis 70%, Evd 91%, Agi 95%, Pmit 18%, Mmit 4%, Crus 34%) ()
[Clo30] Peerless Jade Phase Robe of Mjolnir (469, Elec EDB 100%, Int 100%, Wis 100%, Evd 100%, Agi 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Crus 100%) ()
[Clo31] Peerless Onyx Phase Pants of Mjolnir (414, IW 9, Elec EDB 100%, Int 100%, Wis 100%, Evd 100%, Agi 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Crus 100%) ()
[Clo32] Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir (500, Elec EDB 30%, Int 98%, Wis 87%, Cast Speed 86%, Evd 4%, Agi 6%, Pmit 11%, Mmit 93%, Crus 37%) ()
[Clo33] Legendary Zircon Phase Robe of Mjolnir (442, Elec EDB 31%, Int 47%, Wis 52%, Evd 94%, Agi 80%, Pmit 80%, Mmit 24%, Crus 94%) ()
[Clo34] Legendary Jade Phase Robe of Mjolnir (221, Elec EDB 75%, Int 73%, Wis 1%, Evd 49%, Agi 54%, Pmit 7%, Mmit 53%, Crus 87%) ()
[Clo35] Legendary Amber Phase Robe of Mjolnir (426, Elec EDB 53%, Int 82%, Wis 68%, Evd 1%, Agi 17%, Pmit 64%, Mmit 38%, Crus 72%) ()
[Clo36] Legendary Onyx Phase Pants of Mjolnir (425, Elec EDB 61%, Int 18%, Wis 36%, Evd 41%, Agi 70%, Pmit 86%, Mmit 14%, Crus 74%) ()
[Clo37] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 96%, Int 32%, Wis 11%, Cast Speed 64%, Evd 44%, Agi 1%, Pmit 55%, Mmit 49%, Crus 9%) ()
[Clo38] Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 24%, Int 16%, Wis 71%, Cast Speed 12%, Evd 87%, Agi 84%, Pmit 59%, Mmit 29%, Crus 21%) ()
[Clo39] Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim (401, Cold EDB 76%, Int 11%, Wis 23%, Cast Speed 2%, Evd 24%, Agi 98%, Pmit 24%, Mmit 0%, Crus 35%) ()
[Clo40] Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 45%, Int 69%, Wis 21%, Cast Speed 74%, Evd 17%, Agi 23%, Pmit 26%, Mmit 44%, Crus 35%) ()
[Clo41] Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 36%, Int 29%, Wis 87%, Cast Speed 24%, Evd 28%, Agi 82%, Pmit 58%, Mmit 41%, Crus 31%) ()
[Clo42] Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 73%, Int 7%, Wis 43%, Cast Speed 14%, Evd 36%, Agi 60%, Pmit 82%, Mmit 45%, Crus 71%) ()
[Clo43] Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 83%, Int 80%, Wis 1%, Cast Speed 14%, Evd 2%, Agi 56%, Pmit 88%, Mmit 26%, Crus 46%) ()
[Clo44] Legendary Amber Phase Cap of Niflheim (500, Cold EDB 89%, Int 65%, Wis 87%, Evd 76%, Agi 14%, Pmit 21%, Mmit 67%, Crus 21%) ()
[Clo45] Legendary Onyx Phase Pants of Niflheim (407, Cold EDB 41%, Int 93%, Wis 56%, Evd 97%, Agi 30%, Pmit 71%, Mmit 62%, Crus 32%) ()
[Clo46] Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Surtr (318, Fire EDB 24%, MDB 26%, Int 15%, Wis 82%, Evd 75%, Agi 67%, Pmit 68%, Mmit 38%, Crus 19%) ()
[Clo47] Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Surtr (338, Fire EDB 9%, MDB 14%, Int 24%, Wis 82%, Evd 4%, Agi 98%, Pmit 64%, Mmit 75%, Crus 97%) ()
[Clo48] Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Surtr (408, Fire EDB 1%, Int 99%, Wis 57%, Cast Speed 37%, Evd 97%, Agi 15%, Pmit 21%, Mmit 98%, Crus 86%) ()
[Clo49] Legendary Mystic Phase Robe of Surtr (500, Fire EDB 47%, Int 57%, Wis 33%, Evd 56%, Agi 30%, Pmit 34%, Mmit 89%, Crus 16%) ()
[Clo50] Legendary Frugal Phase Robe of Surtr (500, Fire EDB 89%, Int 15%, Wis 15%, Evd 53%, Agi 25%, Pmit 39%, Mmit 89%, Crus 6%) ()
[Clo51] Legendary Frugal Phase Shoes of Surtr (439, Fire EDB 87%, Int 29%, Wis 36%, Evd 85%, Agi 44%, Pmit 71%, Mmit 87%, Crus 30%) ()
[Clo52] Legendary Zircon Cotton Robe of the Elementalist (500, Elem Prof 85%, Int 52%, Wis 69%, Evd 16%, Agi 31%, Pmit 84%, Mmit 44%, Crus 76%) ()
[Clo53] Legendary Zircon Cotton Cap of the Elementalist (452, Elem Prof 96%, Int 73%, Wis 58%, Evd 97%, Agi 55%, Pmit 63%, Mmit 24%, Crus 56%) ()
[Clo54] Legendary Jade Cotton Pants of the Elementalist (426, Elem Prof 89%, Int 95%, Wis 36%, Evd 53%, Agi 49%, Pmit 10%, Mmit 50%, Crus 62%) ()
[Clo55] Peerless Zircon Cotton Gloves of Warding (422, Int 100%, Wis 100%, Evd 100%, Agi 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Crus 100%) ()


Light

[Lig01] Peerless Onyx Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer (500, ADB 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Evd 100%, Res 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, End 100%, Agi 100%, Crus 100%, Slas 100%, Interf 0%) ()
[Lig02] Peerless Jade Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet (500, ADB 99%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Evd 100%, Res 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, End 100%, Agi 100%, Crus 100%, Slas 100%, Interf 0%) ()
[Lig03] Legendary Savage Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer (454, ADB 43%, Pmit 36%, Mmit 27%, Evd 41%, Res 97%, Str 70%, Dex 1%, End 29%, Agi 89%, Crus 71%, Slas 58%, Interf 5%) ()
[Lig04] Legendary Agile Shade Leggings of the Fleet (369, ADB 80%, Attack Speed 44%, Pmit 72%, Mmit 98%, Evd 57%, Res 32%, Str 88%, Dex 21%, End 74%, Agi 93%, Crus 4%, Slas 28%, Interf 35%) ()
[Lig05] Legendary Savage Shade Helmet of the Arcanist (500, ADB 69%, Pmit 6%, Mmit 36%, Evd 92%, Res 74%, Str 36%, Dex 0%, End 66%, Agi 42%, Int 34%, Wis 34%, Crus 37%, Slas 27%, Interf 20%) ()
[Lig06] Legendary Amber Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist (458, ADB 31%, Pmit 21%, Mmit 82%, Evd 80%, Res 30%, Str 74%, Dex 34%, End 91%, Agi 48%, Int 56%, Wis 0%, Crus 71%, Slas 83%, Interf 25%) ()
[Lig07] Legendary Ruby Shade Boots of the Arcanist (378, ADB 61%, Pmit 13%, Mmit 52%, Evd 23%, Res 29%, Str 38%, Dex 7%, End 45%, Agi 27%, Int 0%, Wis 62%, Crus 79%, Slas 62%, Interf 25%) ()
[Lig08] Legendary Cobalt Shade Gauntlets of the Arcanist (350, ADB 40%, Pmit 48%, Mmit 52%, Evd 87%, Res 4%, Str 40%, Dex 63%, End 80%, Agi 15%, Int 0%, Wis 9%, Crus 71%, Slas 29%, Interf 75%) ()
[Lig09] Magnificent Savage Shade Boots of the Arcanist (20, Agi 9%, Slas 17%, Interf 100%) ()
[Lig10] Peerless Cobalt Leather Gauntlets of Protection (442, Pmit 102%, Mmit 100%, Evd 100%, Res 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, End 100%, Agi 100%, Crus 100%, Slas 100%, Pier 100%, Burden 0%, Interf 0%) ()


Heavy

[Hea01] Peerless Onyx Power Boots of Protection (439, IW 10, ADB 100%, Str 100%, Dex 100%, End 100%, Pmit 100%, Mmit 100%, Phy CC 100%, Phy CD 100%, Crus 100%, Slas 100%, Pier 100%, Burden 0%, Interf 0%) ()
[Hea02] Legendary Mithril Power Helmet of Protection (500, ADB 95%, Str 62%, Dex 4%, End 93%, Pmit 47%, Mmit 10%, Phy CC 25%, Phy CD 14%, Crus 50%, Slas 29%, Pier 18%, Burden 19%, Interf 41%) ()
[Hea03] Legendary Zircon Power Boots of Protection (442, ADB 8%, Str 0%, Dex 4%, End 80%, Pmit 53%, Mmit 59%, Phy CC 15%, Phy CD 0%, Crus 78%, Slas 19%, Pier 24%, Burden 33%, Interf 33%) ()
[Hea04] Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Protection (440, ADB 56%, Str 71%, Dex 14%, End 49%, Pmit 66%, Mmit 95%, Phy CC 41%, Phy CD 62%, Crus 79%, Slas 21%, Pier 79%, Burden 30%, Interf 95%) ()
[Hea05] Legendary Ruby Power Helmet of Protection (441, ADB 4%, Str 93%, Dex 63%, End 37%, Pmit 92%, Mmit 51%, Phy CC 33%, Phy CD 57%, Crus 37%, Slas 52%, Pier 71%, Burden 41%, Interf 95%) ()
[Hea06] Legendary Jade Power Gauntlets of Protection (500, ADB 98%, Str 82%, Dex 0%, End 35%, Pmit 69%, Mmit 73%, Phy CC 14%, Phy CD 23%, Crus 71%, Slas 21%, Pier 48%, Burden 85%, Interf 90%) ()
[Hea07] Legendary Ruby Power Gauntlets of Protection (397, ADB 0%, Str 70%, Dex 26%, End 48%, Pmit 34%, Mmit 3%, Phy CC 23%, Phy CD 23%, Crus 92%, Slas 81%, Pier 12%, Burden 50%, Interf 70%) ()
[Hea08] Legendary Savage Power Helmet of Balance (500, ADB 80%, Str 23%, Dex 54%, End 49%, Pmit 30%, Mmit 45%, Phy CC 58%, Phy CD 67%, Crus 37%, Slas 42%, Pier 49%, Burden 14%, Interf 91%) ()
[Hea09] Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Warding (439, ADB 44%, Str 3%, Dex 54%, End 89%, Pmit 54%, Mmit 34%, Phy CC 39%, Phy CD 6%, Crus 19%, Slas 9%, Pier 54%, Burden 17%, Interf 17%) ()
[Hea10] Legendary Jade Power Gauntlets of Warding (435, ADB 86%, Str 98%, Dex 53%, End 10%, Pmit 50%, Mmit 78%, Phy CC 95%, Phy CD 46%, Crus 46%, Slas 75%, Pier 85%, Burden 50%, Interf 50%) ()
[Hea11] Legendary Shielding Plate Helmet of Protection (500, BLK 46%, Str 9%, Dex 41%, End 92%, Pmit 37%, Mmit 84%, Crus 54%, Slas 13%, Pier 6%, Burden 86%, Interf 36%) ()
[Hea12] Legendary Shielding Plate Greaves of Protection (500, BLK 11%, Str 79%, Dex 86%, End 14%, Pmit 46%, Mmit 67%, Crus 32%, Slas 57%, Pier 14%, Burden 83%, Interf 71%) ()
[Hea13] Legendary Shielding Plate Gauntlets of Protection (500, BLK 38%, Str 16%, Dex 80%, End 56%, Pmit 44%, Mmit 61%, Crus 13%, Slas 38%, Pier 37%, Burden 35%, Interf 55%) ()
[Hea14] Legendary Shielding Plate Gauntlets of Warding (500, BLK 28%, Str 11%, Dex 32%, End 63%, Pmit 43%, Mmit 71%, Crus 28%, Slas 83%, Pier 51%, Burden 10%, Interf 70%) ()
[Hea15] Legendary Shielding Plate Sabatons of Dampening (440, BLK 11%, Str 53%, Dex 83%, End 84%, Pmit 47%, Mmit 99%, Crus 93%, Slas 45%, Pier 60%, Burden 83%, Interf 39%) ()

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Please send items individually so the unsold or subpar items can be returned. To send mails quickly, I recommend using HV Toolbox

For a general technical explanation of how the auctions work, see [reasoningtheory.net] this link.

Weekly auctions end on Saturdays at 14:00 UTC.

The "%" stats listed next to equipments is their Legendary percentile, which is how far between Lmin and Lmax the stat is, taken directly from the wiki.
Example and discussion

If you want me to auction an item for you:
  • No auction fees for sellers
  • The minimum starting bid is 50k, your item should have a good chance of someone bidding at least 50k
  • If an item isn't 100% guaranteed to sell, please send it in its own separate MoogleMail so that it can be returned easily if it's not worth listing or goes unsold
  • Don't know if something is worth auctioning or not? Scroll down, or use SmartSearch, or post in Ask the Experts or ask me
    If you want a particular minimum bid other than 50k, please include "start" somewhere in the MM content to make sure I see it.
  • Send items any time you want, no need to wait for the current auction to end - it doesn't create any problems.
  • If you send items while a current auction is in progress, I much prefer to wait until next week's to list it, but it can be added to the current auction if necessary
  • No need to include the equipment link, since I generate them directly from the attachment's HTML
  • Don't recall items after they've been listed in a live auction.
Regarding gear types I might return: (You can always ask me to try to list it anyway, I might be willing)

A quick way to check to see if an equipment is worth something is to use my SmartSearch script on WTS, with Include (Auction) checked, to see how much similar pieces have gone for in the past.

If something doesn't get a minimum bid of 50k after being listed, don't send it again.

Exception: Peerless are, of course, exempt from all rules below. They can always be auctioned.

Unassigned equipment from 0.81 and before is unlikely to be worth bidding on in most cases.

Materials/Special
Bindings worth less than 1k aren't worth auctioning
EDB bindings (barely worth 1k, usually) need to be in packs of 100+ to be auctioned
Low-grade mats need to be in packs of at least 1k for a good chance of getting bid on

1h
Rapiers are best.
Legendary is required, except for rapiers below level 400.
Clubs and Axes must be Slaughter, and they must be either under level 350 or Ethereal.
Melee weapons without prefixes or with useless suffixes (Vampire, Illithid, Banshee) are unauctionable.
Most wakizashis and shortswords are unlikely to auction unless Ethereal, Hallowed, or Demonic.

2h
Legendary is required.
2h weapons must be Slaughter, and they must be either under level 400, or Ethereal, or Katana.
Melee weapons with useless suffixes (Vampire, Illithid, Banshee) are unauctionable.

Staff
Most staffs must have good prefix, matching type, and good suffix.
Staffs over level 370 must be Legendary or they most likely won't get minimum bid.

Shield
Must be Legendary, or under level 350.
Bucklers must be Barrier or Battlecaster, or they won't get minimum bid.
Kite shields won't get minimum bid.

Cloth
Cloth must be Phase or have elemental/holy/dark proficiency suffix, or it is unauctionable.
The only Magnificent cloth allowed is (Radiant Phase + Under level 450), or (Good prefix + Under level 370 + 3 PAB).
High level plain-prefixed cloth needs good EDB or proficiency, or it won't get minimum bid. (Level 450+ cloth with plain prefix needs 90%+ EDB or prof)

Light
Legendary and lower Leather: Too unlikely to get minimum bid unless Reinforced Protection
Shade Negation needs to be Legendary and Savage, otherwise it's very unlikely to get minimum bid
Shade Fleet needs to be under level 400, or it needs to be Savage
Magnificent Shade is very unlikely to get minimum bid

Heavy
Legendary Plate: Only has a chance of getting minimum bid if it's Shielding of Protection or Dampening
Magnificent Power needs to be under level 330, or it needs to be Slaughter and under 450.
Power Balance/Warding/Protection over level 400 likely will not sell unless it's also Savage or has extremely high ADB.

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Lower-level gear can sometimes be lowish quality, but higher-level gear should be high quality.

If I return something and you want to know why or you really want me to try to auction it anyway, feel free to message me.

Note that auctions generally attract discerning and higher level players. Lower quality items that might not make the 50k minimum bid might be better posted in a shop, which lower level, less discerning, and more shy players are more likely to visit.

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"All posted bids should be in credits (or "Start" = starting bid) and must immediately follow the item code or codes."

Explanation: In my automatically-updating auctions, bids must be formatted properly for the bid to be read correctly.

Examples of good bids:
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Hea01 1000k (best)
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Hea01 1m (best)
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[Hea01] 1000k
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Hea01 1m
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Hea01 1000000
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Hea01 1,000,000
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Hea01 1000000c
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I want Hea01 1m
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hea01 1m
(the above are all equivalent)
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Hea01 Hea02 Hea03 100k
QUOTE
[Hea01] [Hea02] [Hea03] 100k
QUOTE
[Hea01][Hea02][Hea03] 100k
QUOTE
Hea01
Hea02
Hea03
100k
(the above are all equivalent)
QUOTE
Hea01 start
QUOTE
Hea01 Hea02 start
(the above are good as well)

Examples of bad bids:
QUOTE
Hea01 1000000z
"z" means nothing. Only use "k" = 1000, "m" = 1,000,000, "c" = 1, or nothing at all
QUOTE
Hea01 I will pay 100k
There should be nothing between the item code Hea01 and the bid amount 100k

There is a very small list of common exceptions which are allowed but discouraged:
'all', 'every', 'and', 'bid', '[', ']', '(', ')', '{', '}', '-', ':', '\n' - These are all removed from your post before I check for valid bids.
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Hea01 bid 100k => Hea01 100k
QUOTE
Hea01 and Hea02, bid 100k => Hea01 Hea02 100k
(both valid, but not good)

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中文拍卖规则:
  • 强烈推荐使用[reasoningtheory.net] 自动出价系统 ,尤其当你对某件拍品真的很感兴趣时,自动出价相比于平常的手动出价更具优势。如果你在这个网站上选择了自
    动出价并设置了上限,系统检测到其他人出价高于你当前出价时,会在你设置的上限内,自动帮你用最小的加价来
    压制对手的出价。(当然你还是可以在任何时候正常地手动出价)给我发PM来获取你的bidkey(自动出价密钥)。
  • 如果你想在别人出价时听到警报音,可以点进bid log(出价日志),链接在正在进行的拍卖楼中,你需要在该网页勾选"Update automatically for the next 60 minutes",并接着勾选"Alert when the following user gets outbid& quot;,在该选项后输入自己的用户名并回车,如果成功将会显示你现在出价领先的物品总数量,之后如果有人对这些
    拍品成功出价,你会听到提示音。(可以点击Test试听)
  • 自动通知系统:如果你想在某件拍品别人出价高于你时收到PM或者MM的自动通知,你可以在本楼中回复”物品编码 (出价?) notify”(PM和MM都通知)或”物品编码 (出价?) notify pm”(仅PM)或”物品编码 (出价?) notify mm”(仅MM)
    例子:One01 500k notify 或者 One01 notify mm 你只需要回复这样的内容一次,不需要每次重新出价都再要求自动通知。
  • 所有出价都是用credits(绅士币) (或者”Start”=起拍价),必须为1000的整数倍。出价必须紧跟着 一个或多个物品编码。物品编码需要和拍卖中显示的匹配:5个字母,没有空格。(大小写、括号、下划线没关系)1k=
    1000, 1m=1000k
    One01 200K 是有效的。 [One02]1.5m是有效的。 One04 start是有效的。 “One05 我想出价400K”是无效的。 “one06 one07 start”是有效的。
    可以换行,但不允许其它字符,可以看这个帖子来查看细节。
  • 出价和命令所在的帖子不可编辑,否则会失效。这是为了所有人可以按照帖子的顺序看到出价的顺序而不产生疑问。(2楼的日志会有编辑帖子的记录,避免意外)
  • 每件物品有其独立的到期时间,默认是拍卖总的倒计时。在单件拍品到期前的15分钟内的出价,会将该拍品的到期
    间延长至你最新出价时间的后15分钟。
  • 在到期时间的同一秒的出价有效,到下一秒就无效。
  • 即使最后15分钟有很多出价,本帖子也会每隔几秒在新出价后更新一次,这一点和其它拍卖不一样。
  • 出价可以被取消,方式是在拍卖结束前至少24小时回复”物品编码 cancel” (例: "One01 cancel").如果你出价时打错字,你可以编辑帖子使得该出价无效,只要你的出价还没有暴露别人的自动出价。
  • 无效的回帖/出价通常会被列在2楼的日志中而不是新回复,同时你也会自动收到PM/MM通知
  • 如果新版本(0.87)发布了,拍卖会暂停或者取消。
  • 你不需要立即支付全款,如果你是一个有信誉的玩家。没有定死的时间限制。如果你的预算不足以支付你的出价,
    请给我发PM
最少加价:
  • 起拍价:50K除非另有说明
  • + 30K如果当前出价<200K
  • + 50K如果200K <=当前出价<2m,且物品编号的开头不是"MAT"
  • 其他情况+ 3%
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オークションのルールと機能: (緑文字の文章は他のオークションの基本ルール・説明との相違点ですので, よく確認してください)
  • あなたがどうしても欲しい商品があるとき, 自動代理入札は通常の入札よりも非常にお勧めです. 入札を[reasoningtheory.net] このウェブサイトから行うと, あなたの限度額まで自動的に, 他の入札者よりも入札単位分だけ高く入札されるようになります. (もちろん通常の入札もいつでも行うことができます.) bidkey (入札キー) を取得するためには私に PM を送ってください.
  • アイテムが必要な場合は, 他の入札者へ親切となるように, 普段から早めに入札してください. 早期入札者には割引が適用されます. 最後の数時間まで待っていた入札者には税金が課されます. 詳細はこちらをご覧ください. ほとんどのプレーヤーは割引を受け取ります. 良い割引を受け取るには, オークションの最終日前に代理入札であなたの本当の限度額を提出してください.
  • 新しい入札や入札額の更新があったとき, リアルタイムでアラートを鳴らしたい場合は, bid log を参照してください (リンクはオークションスレッドにあります)
  • 入札額の更新通知: あなたの入札額が他人の入札によって上書きされたとき, PM か MM で通知を受け取りたい場合は, 次のように記入してください. "商品コード (入札額) notify" (PM と MM の両方の場合) もしくは "商品コード (入札額) notify pm" (PM のみ) か "商品コード (入札額) notify mm" (MM のみ).
    例: "One01 500k notify" もしくは "One01 notify mm". 通知を有効にする必要があるのは一度だけです (再入札のたびに "notify" する必要はありません).
  • 入札にあたって入札額は 1k 単位の Credit でなくてはならず (もしくは "Start" = 最低入札額) , また商品コードの直後に書く必要があります (1k = 1000, 1m = 1000k). コードはオークションに表示されているものと一致する必要があります; 5文字, スペースを含まない. (大小文字, かっこ, 及びダッシュは関係ありません)
    "One01 200k" は有効. "[One02] 1.5m" は有効. "One04 start" は有効. "One05 I will bid 400k"無効. "one06 one07 start" は有効.
    改行はできますが, それ以外の単語は使えません. 詳しくは この投稿 を参照してください.
  • 有効な入札やコマンドは 編集されていない 投稿に限ります. これは誰もが混乱することなく, 時系列順に入札を見ることができるようにするためです. (問題が発生した場合に備えて, Post #2 に編集された投稿のノートが追加されます)
  • オークション終了前15分もしくは終了後に行われた入札は, その商品のオークションを最後の入札の時点から15分延長します.
  • 締め切り時刻と同時 (例. xx:00) の投稿は有効ですが, それ以降 (例. xx:01) は無効です.
  • 終了前15分で大量の投稿がある場合でも, 他のオークションとは違い, このページは入札からわずかな時間で更新されます.
  • 入札をキャンセルするには, オークション終了24時間前までに, 次以降の投稿に "商品コード cancel" と記入します. それ以降はできません. ミスタイプがあった場合, あなたは投稿を編集することで入札を無効にすることができます (自動代理入札でない場合).
  • 無効な投稿/入札は返信にではなく Post #2 にリストアップされますが, 通常あなたはさらに, 自動返信の PM / MM を受け取ることになるでしょう.
  • HV 0.87 がリリースされた場合は, オークションは保留かキャンセルされます.
  • 落札者は商品を CoD (代金引換) で受け取ることになります.
  • あなたが信頼に値するプレイヤーならば, 代金を急いで支払う必要はありません. 厳格な期日はありません. もし支払いの当てがない場合は, 私に PM を送ってください.
入札単位:
  • 最低入札額: 50k 記載がなければ
  • 入札額 < 200k: +30k
  • 200k <= 入札額 < 2m かつ商品が [Mat] でない場合: +50k
  • それ以外: +3%
  • 代理入札者の最後の入札は免除されます(1kの最小増分)
あなたのアイテムをオークションに出品したいときは, いつでも遠慮なく私に送ってください. 詳しくは こちらの投稿 に.

訳者: tatarime


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경매 규칙들:
  • 어떤 물품을 정말 원하시엔 일반적으로 입찰하기 보다 Proxy Bid (본인이 입찰한 금액 + 두번째로 높았던 금액 같이 결제하는 방식)를 추천합니다. [reasoningtheory.net] 사이트에서 입찰할시, 입찰가는 자동으로 다른 입찰자들이 본인이 입찰한 금액을 상회해 본인이 지불할 수 있는 최대금액보다 높아질 것입니다 (물론, 언제든지 일반적인 방식으로 입찰해도 상관 없습니다.) Bidkey를 받으려면 저에게 PM 해주시길 바랍니다.
  • 새 입찰품목이나 상회입찰을 당했을 시 실시간 음성 알림을 받고싶은 분은 Bid Log로 가시면 됩니다.
  • 상회입찰 알림 : 상회입찰 당한 품목에 대해 PM이나 MM으로 알림을 받고 싶으시다면, “아이템코드 (입찰가) notify” (PM과 MM 둘다), “아이템코드 (입찰가) notify pm” (PM 경우만), “아이템코드 (입찰가) notify mm” (mm 경우만) 쳐서 보내면 됩니다. (입찰가는 본인 입맛에 맞게 붙이던지 안붙이던지 하시면 되는거 같습니다. 사이트 연동 방식인거 같은데 해보질 않아서 정확히는 번역이 안됩니다 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ)
    예시 : “One01 500k notify” 나 “One01 notify mm” 이렇게 보내시면 됩니다. 알림을 위해선 한번만 보내셔도 됩니다. 재입찰 할때마다 “notify” 안보내셔도 됩니다.
  • 시작 입찰가나 입찰가는 반드시 1k 단위 크레딧이여야 하고 반드시 아이템코드 뒤에 바로 붙어야 합니다. 코드는 경매에 명시된 공백없이 5글자와 일치해야 합니다. (대문자, 괄호, 대시 기호는 상관 없습니다)
    “One01 200k”는 됩니다. “[One02] 1.5m”도 됩니다. “One04 start”도 됩니다. “One05 나중에 입찰할 겁니다 400k”는 안됩니다. (사이트 연동 방식이라 아이템 코드와 입찰가가 공백 한칸을 두고 해야 하는 것 같습니다. 그냥 입찰할땐 예시처럼 해주시면 되겠습니다.) 행 바꿈도 괜찮지만, 다른 단어는 안됩니다. 자세한 건 이 포스트를 보시면 됩니다.
  • 입찰이나 커맨드는 수정되지 않은 글만 인정됩니다. 이는 사람들이 입찰을 한 순서대로 볼 수 있고 발생할 수 있는 혼선을 방지하기 위함입니다. (Post #2에 실수일 수 있는 수정된 포스트를 위한 노트가 추가됩니다.)
  • 경매 마감 15분 전후로 추가된 입찰에 대해선 마지막 입찰 시간 기준 경매 마감 시간이 15분 연장됩니다.
  • 마감 시간과 동시에 올라온 포스트는 인정되지만, 이후에는 인정되지 않습니다.
  • 다른 옥션과는 달리, 마지막 15분에 많은 입찰이 있으면, 이 경매는 마지막 입찰 이후 몇초 뒤 계속 갱신됩니다.
  • 입찰취소는 경매 마감 24시간 전 아이템코드 cancel ("One01 cancel") 을 다음 포스트에 입력하면 가능하지만, 이 이후에는 안됩니다. 만약에 실수로 작성했을시, Proxy Bid를 공개 안했을시 입찰을 수정해 무효화하면 됩니다. (이 Proxy Bid 여부를 공개한다는 건지, 어떤건지 잘 모르겠네요.. 번역자의 지식이 부족합니다ㅠ Proxy bid는 Automatic Bid와 동일한거라 보시면 됩니다. 일정 금액을 proxy bid 걸어놓으면 상회입찰 당할시 그 금액까지 알아서 입찰해줍니다.)
  • 부적합한 입찰/포스트 들은 새 답글이 달리지 않고 Post #2에 올라올 거지만, 이 경우에도 자동으로 PM / MM 을 받을겁니다.
  • 헨타이버스 0.87가 출시되면, 경매는 잠시 중단되거나 취소됩니다.
  • 낙찰자는 COD를 통해 품목을 받을 것입니다.
  • 평판이 좋은 유저의 경우는 바로 결제하지 않아도 됩니다. 결제 기한이 막 빡세고 그런건 아닙니다. 만약 최대 입찰액만큼 크레딧이 없다면, 저에게 PM 주세요.
최소 입찰 단위 :
  • 특별한 사항이 없을시 최소입찰 시작가는 50K 이상입니다.
  • 물품의 입찰가가 200K 미만일시, 전 입찰 가격보다 최소 30K 이상 높아야합니다.
  • [Mat]이 아닌 뭄품의 입찰가가 200K 이상 2M 미만일시, 전 입찰 가격보다 최소 50K 이상 높아야 합니다.
  • 그 외 다른것들은 전부 전 입찰 가격보다 최소 3% 높게 부르시면 됩니다.
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[b][size=3]Auction Rules and Features:[/size][/b][list]
[*]Proxy bids are [i]highly recommended[/i] over bidding normally if you're seriously interested in something. If you bid from [url=https://reasoningtheory.net/]the website[/url], you will automatically outbid any other bidders by the minimum bid, up to your limit. (You can still bid normally any time, of course.) PM me to get a bidkey.
[*]If you want realtime audio alerts on new bids or when you get outbid, go to the bid log (link is in the auction thread)
[*]Outbid Notifications: If you want to be alerted via PM or MM when you get outbid on an item, type "itemcode (bid?) notify" (both PM and MM) or "itemcode (bid?) notify pm" (PM only) or "itemcode (bid?) notify mm" (MM only).
Example: [i]"One01 500k notify"[/i] or [i]"One01 notify mm"[/i]. You only need to enable notifications once for an item (you don't need to "notify" again each time you re-bid).
[*]All posted bids should be in credits (or "Start" = starting bid) in multiples of 1k and must [b]immediately[/b] follow the item code or codes. Codes must match what's displayed in the auction; 5 characters, no spaces. (capitalization, brackets, and dashes don't matter)[indent][i]"One01 200k"[/i] is valid. [i]"[One02] 1.5m"[/i] is valid. [i]"One04 start"[/i] is valid. [i]"One05 [b]I will bid[/b] 400k"[/i] is [b]invalid.[/b] [i]"one06 one07 start"[/i] is valid.
Line breaks are fine, but other words are not. See [b][url=https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&showtopic=194413&view=findpost&p=4507093]this post[/url][/b] for details.[/indent]
[*]Valid bids and commands must be in [b]unedited[/b] posts only. This is so that everyone can see bids in chronological order without any possible confusion. (a note will be added to [b]Post #2[/b] for edited posts just in case it was accidental)
[*]Bids made during or after the last 15 minutes will extend the item auction for another 15 minutes starting from the last bid time.
[*]Posts made at the same time as the deadline (eg. xx:00) are valid, but bids after (eg. xx:01) are not.
[*]Even if there are many bids in the last 15 minutes this post will be updated a few seconds after bids are made, unlike other auctions.
[*]Bids can be canceled by typing "itemcode cancel" in a subsequent post before the last 24 hours of the auction, but should not be done after. If you mistype, you can edit your post to invalidate your bid [i]if you have not revealed a proxy bid[/i].
[*]Invalid posts/bids will be listed in [b]Post #2[/b] rather than being posted in a new reply, generally, [b]but you will also receive an automatic PM / MM.[/b]
[*]If HV 0.87 is released, the auction will be put on hold or canceled.
[*]Winners will receive the items with CoD.
[*]You do not have to pay immediately if you are a reputable player. There are no hard time limits. If you might not have the funds to pay your max bid, please PM me.
[/list][b][size=3]Minimum bid increments:[/size][/b][list]
[*]Start bid: 50k unless noted
[*]+30k if [b]bid < 200k[/b]
[*]+50k if [b]200k <= bid < 2m[/b] and the item is not a [Mat]
[*]+3% for everything else
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Naughty list:

edu5ardo - Sending an item to auction, waiting for it to be bid on, then intentionally taking it back and salvaging / buying back to make it untradable
c4f1234 - Bidding on multiple items and then not accepting them
hentai_fusion - Bidding a large amount on an item and then not accepting it
IDKfromS.K - Bidding on multiple items and not accepting them




Should the minimum bid increments be changed?

See posts in Ask the Experts:
QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 12 2016, 07:38) *
I think the 10% bid increments were useful in the past to make auction tracking manageable. But with auction tracking now largely automated, that reason no longer exists. It could also be the big reason to push bidders into placing proxy bids. IMO, the current scheme could even be reversed - 10% bid increments for items where the current bid is low, and 50k increments beyond the threshold.

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 12 2016, 12:51) *
As i already said 20m-->22m-->25m-->28m-->31m is something very common. Player can think "20m was ok, but 25m is already quite high price" and just leave that item. At the same time after 22m he could bid 23m and maybe even 25m in courage. Its absolutely different story. Just look at gap between 22m and 28m. Its huge and when person doing 22m bid it doesnt mean he ready to increase up to 28m in single step.

QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jun 12 2016, 14:04) *
I second this idea, for the most part. Going with 50k increments for all bids <1m allows for more flexibilty, and I am positive such a change is very much justified...

Personally I believe the best way to go would be fixed increments for different bid ranges, like:

50k - 1m: 50k increment
1m - 5m: 100k (maybe more?) increment
5m - 10m: 500k increment
>10m: 1m increment

This would allow more flexibilty in lower bid regions, encouriging more bids and possibly better revenues for sellers. Fixed increments should also decrease the number of invalid bids ( 500k --> 550k --> 600k isn't that uncoomon, but 600k is an invalid bid right now)

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No more bursting out the calculator to figure out how the next few bids will play out.

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- auctioneer doesn't care because it is automated
- bidders are choosing to bid with minimum increment. They can always choose to big with larger increment if they want to do so manually or even with +10% increments which would have no change from today. Or they can activate proxy bid if they don't want to stick around.
- eventual sale price might be higher or lower than today, so sellers should not see much difference. In your example, if the bidders are not willing to go to 22m, at least the price might have reached 20.7m after 14 outbids. Or the price may even go beyond the price with +10% increments because of the heat of bidding and the small hurdle of just 50k credits more.

Feel free to add your 2 cents.


My musings:

Now that I've been thinking about it for a bit, I'm really curious - what would an auction with virtually no minimum bid increment look like? (like a flat +50k, or less if the current bid is small)

Right now, once the current bid starts getting close to reasonable market price, I think most everyone habitually bids near exactly +10%, or roundup(+10%) to an even number. Almost no one bids significantly more, unless they're rich and don't care. But would people habitually bid only the minimum increment, generally? I think not, I hope not, but I think a few might, which could get annoying.

Regardless, bidders would think about how much they want to increase the bid on an item, rather than feeling fenced in by the 10%. ("+10% is already a lot, higher than that is silly, a lower bid is not allowed")

Also, with a small bid increment, players will be more able to prolong the item's auction time during the last 15 minutes, without significantly raising the current bid. Previously, the effectiveness of so-called "snipers" was a bit restricted because the bid amount would rise exponentially; their last-minute bid attempt would necessarily result in a notably higher required bid. With a low minimum bid increment, I would quite dislike it if someone comes out on top during a bid war in the first couple days of the auction, the item goes untouched, and then in the last 15 minutes someone else bids +50k and takes it.

One can say (1) "The other guy should've been online at the end" or (2) "the other guy should've used a proxy bid", but (1) is an annoying requirement for an auction to have, and a number of people will not do (2) because they don't understand it, or don't know English well enough to interpret it, or don't trust it.

If this sort of thing becomes the new rule, hopefully few would exploit it like that. But most people who care are online at the end of an auction anyway. So it might be an annoyance, but it's bearable.

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I would suggest lowering the minimum increment to 5% for the next auction and see how it goes.
Drastically changing how it works can possibly bring a lot of new issues, halving the increments should be minor enough to prevent annoyances like having to rebid 1000 times to get an item (for those who don't use proxy bid).

Also I think manual bid still have a place, for example they can be used for bluffing (like directly putting the max bid when you think it can go higher in a bid war, in the hope of scaring away the other potential bidders).
It would be good to think of a system where both type of bidding can still be used.
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 13 2016, 20:50) *

scaring away the other potential bidders


lol I used to do this and it never ever works.

Throw down a lump sum right off the bet doesn't make it any more intimidating than making small increments.
People will just bid like normal in both situations.
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Jun 13 2016, 15:06) *

lol I used to do this and it never ever works.

Yeah, never worked for me either (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Still, it's fun to try (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 13 2016, 23:09) *

Yeah, never worked for me either (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Still, it's fun to try (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Tried this last auction, you never know if it actually worked or not though heh.
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Tried this last auction, you never know if it actually worked or not though heh.


Well, there's no real way to measure its effectiveness

But......I've been at the receiving end and I simply felt nothing.
And.....it's not like I ever got anything for cheap when using this strategy
Also, the other bids will drown out your posts so people won't know if that amount was reached through 1 bid or many bids.


Talking about gimmicks, has anyone tried this:

Bid on something you don't want or have no money to pay for it, just to jack up the price because you just want to watch that other person pay more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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I like sapo idea about 5% increment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

but this will make long thread page for final hour of auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , my problem is how to get something auctionable now ~ kinda feel that snowflake really hate me in this 2016 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Before going into detailed discussion on auction mechanics and the like, I'd actually like to take a step back and ask what started this whole thing. Have there been any complaints about the current system?

I know I already offered some opinion on the matter in the experts' discussion thread, but at the same time I cannot ignore that the current system with live bid updates and proxy service is rather comfortable as is. Looking at the last auction with a total of 460 replies one cannot deny that it is a significant improvement over manual auctions, both for bidders and the auctioneer.

As for the bid increment issue, could we maybe get some statistics on (final) bid distribution? Arguing over increments for >10m items might be quite the non-issue, if that only concers maybe less than 5% of all bids. On the other hand, I am assuming quite a number of items reach final prices around ~1m and the like, so this might be worth a closer look. But I'd still like to see some numbers here if possible, simply to shift the attention towards the right place.
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I don't see any flaw in the actual system.

Don't want to raise ten times? Proxy bids.

Raises are too high? If you're interested you raise anyway, if you don't, just leave the item to the other person.

Starting bid is too high? Item unsold, and the problem is for the seller only.


I don't really get it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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I want a simple bid command to manually outbid on an item so I dont have to calc what is 10% more everytime (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
For example "One01 bid++" or "One01 +10%" something like that.
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I want a simple bid command to manually outbid on an item so I dont have to calc what is 10% more everytime (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
For example "One01 bid++" or "One01 +10%" something like that.

This is interesting, and it's far from impossible.
The bid system already recognizes an invalid bid, so it means that it already calculates the bids.
A simple "raise" or "bid+" command that recalls automatically that bid it's only a next step (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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I like the idea given by Rhydin.

Since most items are sold for up to 1m, I think even going from 50k to 50k, the final value is reached quickly. In addition, it facilitates the users to have the bids without having to make accounts with values more "rounded", and therefore less subject to error [(550k > 600k > 650k) is simpler than (550k > 605k > 665.5k)].

The 10% rule could still valid for higher values (up to 10m).
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jun 13 2016, 17:16) *

I want a simple bid command to manually outbid on an item so I dont have to calc what is 10% more everytime (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
For example "One01 bid++" or "One01 +10%" something like that.

Why not using automatic proxy bidding then?
It's free, it's fast and it's automatic.

You just need to get the bidkey from Super, go to the bid site, login, set your maximum bid and the system will automatic proxy bid up to the maximum you set.
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Why not using automatic proxy bidding then?
It's free, it's fast and it's automatic.

You just need to get the bidkey from Super, go to the bid site, login, set your maximum bid and the system will automatic proxy bid up to the maximum you set.

So you can change your max bid anytime instantly? Seems good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I just want a manual way so I can bail out anytime I want while raising the price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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What I was wondering: Should we remove the label that a bid was a proxy bid? I know this is a happy place where everybody loves each other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) but lets say someone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) wants to make you pay more and bid you up, it's very probably that your first proxy bid isn't your max.
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What I was wondering: Should we remove the label that a bid was a proxy bid? I know this is a happy place where everybody loves each other (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) but lets say someone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) wants to make you pay more and bid you up, it's very probably that your first proxy bid isn't your max.

And if it is? (I would put high proxy bid in the last day only, better to keep a low price at first)

But anyway, why both you and LOL50015 have so little faith on the other HV users (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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