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my cloth and staff proficiency is terrible, only 270-280 ish, I guess boosting these two takes lots of time.
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It looks terrible but not surprising. Gonna read the instruction from the link you provided and try to get some usable magnificant cloth to begin with.
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Take it easy, Staff/Cloth proficiency is less important (Only Staff Spell Damage and Cloth Castspeed are important, others = unless or useful but not important)

This set is very terrible, I doubt if you can farm Normal difficulty with this set easily. Use smartsearch to check wts forum oftenly. Try to collect 3 Phase of Fenrir and 2 Cotton of Demon-fiend (assume you want to become dark mage), don't care the slot because anything is better than nothing.

LDWD is more rare (also means more expensive) than LSWD/LTWD, pay attention to super's auction, don't miss any chance.

Before you get a decent LDWD, you can buy a MDWD or LDWF for temporary use (not sure if MDWF is better than your current Staff), remeber IW it for Penetrator Lv.5 because Penetrator is really very important for any mage.

Right, I notice SGs -1 resistance against holy/dark, I guess that's why infusion of dark/holy is way more expensive than flame and frost.
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For PAcc, I have no idea where to check it because I cannot see this stats in any page. At least from what I feel, I did not remember frequently attach missed or blocked or parried in 1H, however, when I switch DW, same equips and just replace the shield with another 1H weapon(shortsword+rapier), it seems that almost half of my attack is missed. So I gave up DW.

That's because there are more holy/dark mages than fire/cold, frequency players are almost mages already.

it's

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Physical Attack
% hit chance

So they're right, for 1H-melee PAcc > 150% is enough, despite other melee style still need PAcc > 200% (because they don't have Overwhelming Strikes)

This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 12 2021, 14:33

Take it easy, Staff/Cloth proficiency is less important (Only Staff Spell Damage and Cloth Castspeed are important, others = unless or useful but not important)

This set is very terrible, I doubt if you can farm Normal difficulty with this set easily. Use smartsearch to check wts forum oftenly. Try to collect 3 Phase of Fenrir and 2 Cotton of Demon-fiend (assume you want to become dark mage), don't care the slot because anything is better than nothing.

LDWD is more rare (also means more expensive) than LSWD/LTWD, pay attention to super's auction, don't miss any chance.

Before you get a decent LDWD, you can buy a MDWD or LDWF for temporary use (not sure if MDWF is better than your current Staff), remeber IW it for Penetrator Lv.5 because Penetrator is really very important for any mage.
That's because there are more holy/dark mages than fire/cold, frequency players are almost mages already.

it's

CODE

Physical Attack
% hit chance

So they're right, for 1H-melee PAcc > 150% is enough, despite other melee style still need PAcc > 200% (because they don't have Overwhelming Strikes)

OK, I feel like the whole thing take a while, long learning curve.

Just realized that I bided your kite shield in auction a few days ago lol.

Just realized that I bided your kite shield in auction a few days ago lol.

That shield should perform as my Mag. force shield in my shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I auction it because it's name is good-listening, and wish a collector may have interest. (but seems no (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , maybe because it isn't a SDE shield)

Don't worry, 50k is generally nothing

Edit: zu0 has got some level 300ish dark Staff, if you have interest you may contact him.

This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 12 2021, 15:21

That shield should perform as my Mag. force shield in my shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I auction it because it's name is good-listening, and wish a collector may have interest. (but seems no (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , maybe because it isn't a SDE shield)

Don't worry, 50k is generally nothing

Force shield is so rare, very difficult to get, I don't have even one decent shield so far. So this one looks OK to me.

What is the order of the 4 stats for shield? I guess Strength is the most important because I see shield with great stats in Bazaar for a long time and no one buy it just because it is Dex Agi End, no Str. So how to rank these 4 stats in order?

Yea, I am not worry about your shield, 50k is OK, never expecting a great shield with 50k price. What I am worried about is the Lig08 I bided earlier. This is the first time I bid and I clearly bid too much, now I am regret and want to cancel the 140k Lig08 bid, but the rule says I can only cancel 24h before it ends so too late. I don't want to ruin my reputation and I will pay 140k if nobody bid, but I think 140k for Lig08 is a bad price and I will probably use it for a while and sell to WTS or auction again lol.

Force shield is so rare, very difficult to get, I don't have even one decent shield so far. So this one looks OK to me.

What is the order of the 4 stats for shield? I guess Strength is the most important because I see shield with great stats in Bazaar for a long time and no one buy it just because it is Dex Agi End, no Str. So how to rank these 4 stats in order?

Yea, I am not worry about your shield, 50k is OK, never expecting a great shield with 50k price. What I am worried about is the Lig08 I bided earlier. This is the first time I bid and I clearly bid too much, now I am regret and want to cancel the 140k Lig08 bid, but the rule says I can only cancel 24h before it ends so too late. I don't want to ruin my reputation and I will pay 140k if nobody bid, but I think 140k for Lig08 is a bad price and I will probably use it for a while and sell to WTS or auction again lol.

For Mage DEA, otherwise SDE.

What is the order of the 4 stats for shield? I guess Strength is the most important because I see shield with great stats in Bazaar for a long time and no one buy it just because it is Dex Agi End, no Str. So how to rank these 4 stats in order?

Defensive: E > A ≈ D > S = 0
Offensive (melee): S > D > A = E = 0
Offensive (mage): S ≈ D = A = E = 0

For melee shield, if you need defence, it should be:
DEA > SEA ≈ SDE > SDA
But 1H-melee player usually want to become more offensive, so:
SDE ≈ SDA > SEA > DEA

For mage shield, that's simple:
DEA > SEA ≈ SDE > SDA

What is the order of the 4 stats for shield? I guess Strength is the most important because I see shield with great stats in Bazaar for a long time and no one buy it just because it is Dex Agi End, no Str. So how to rank these 4 stats in order?

Most of the reason for that is that 1H players prefer to avoid agi.

Agi is a useful stat - it grants physical mitigation in particular - but it also grants evade and attack speed.

1H gets a lot of damage from counter-attacks - which happen when a 1H player blocks or parries. But evade is calculated before block or parry, so if you evade an attack, you cannot counter it. Also, attack speed makes you faster relative to the monsters, which means they attack you less often.

In many situations some evade and attack speed is fine, because you can only do 3 counter-attacks per turn anyway. But still, 1H players generally try to keep attack speed and evade low, because surviving as 1H is easy with the right gear and some forge upgrades.

That's why only shields with str, dex, end sell well. Although, 1H mage players like dex, end, agi on reinforced buckler shields (usually only of the barrier or of the battlecaster).

Thank you for your suggestion. I am preparing for a Goldstar and mage equips now.

First of all, the mage proficiency, fortunately I cast fiery blast, smite, and corruption every time in random encounter since I start to play this game with melee as I realized that random encounter gives lots of proficiency so I think this extra a few seconds time spent in random encounter will keep my mage proficiency not too low. So now my Elemental, divine, forbidden proficiency is 360-ish while my highest 1H and heavy armor is 380-390. Guess not too bad. However, my cloth and staff proficiency is terrible, only 270-280 ish, I guess boosting these two takes lots of time.

Second, the equips, due to extremely high price of high-grade cloth, I cannot get any trash magnificent cloth equip from the bazaar to get started. So far I searched my equip inventory as well as the one you gave me, I equipped like this:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/272336190/b3a85add9d
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/264466431/0e40b44e00
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271852738/ce3a5caea3
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/272452230/333e619972
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271564002/6943f9c794
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271732277/14f9c16e57

It looks terrible but not surprising. Gonna read the instruction from the link you provided and try to get some usable magnificant cloth to begin with.

Again, thank you so much for your suggestion, let me know if you have anything else willing to sell or any other suggestions.

It is terrible, because it appears like you're not knowing what you're doing; sorry for being so abrupt, but doing mage is not going to work (not even on low arenas Normal difficulty) if you just throw together some cotton and a staff.

First, staff and Phase must all match (i.e., give MDB, EDB and proficiency all geared for the same element); otherwise Mag or even Leg gear would perform even worse then a set of well-chosen exquisites.

Your build has a staff that could eventually (if it had the right prefix) be used (mainly for Dark, Elec or Wind, possibly for Fire/Ice, never for Holy), but then you have differnet elements in some equip, and even a plain cotton "of Warding" that is quite useless.

For staff/cotton prof, you should start doing only RE with mage build, while doing Arenas with your regular 1H build; that's because doing PFUDOR RE is possible at your level even with unforged Exq. mage build, and gives a lot of prof. While farming arenas is better done with 1H, at least until you have a reasonably good mage staff & set and high enough prof.

Finally, a word of caution; doing mage is not just much more expensive then 1H, it's also much more complicated; you must know (and know well) quite a bit of things about the inner working of all the stuff involved. Take your time to study all there is to know, before plunging into it, because experimenting with it in the wrong way will hurt your wallet, believe me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

For staff/cotton prof, you should start doing only RE with mage build, while doing Arenas with your regular 1H build; that's because doing PFUDOR RE is possible at your level even with unforged Exq. mage build, and gives a lot of prof. While farming arenas is better done with 1H, at least until you have a reasonably good mage staff & set and high enough prof.

PF REs can be seriously hard as a beginner mage depending on how many monsters you get, especially if you don't have IA5. At least the low arenas have lower monster density per round.

For staff/cotton prof, you should start doing only RE with mage build, while doing Arenas with your regular 1H build; that's because doing PFUDOR RE is possible at your level even with unforged Exq. mage build,

Finally, a word of caution; doing mage is not just much more expensive then 1H,

That's impossible. Even with Avatar+God, it should be still impossible unless he/she finish "All Magnificent" set.

It's not, unless the player can only afford 1m credit or less. Within 2m credit player can collect every Magnificent pieces of mage set, as cheap as mid-grade melee gears (Mag. Power Slaughter & Leg. Power Protection). The only problem is this mage cannot farm PF AR/PF RE easily (need Scrolls). If that's acceptable, mage is not expensive at all.

PF REs can be seriously hard as a beginner mage depending on how many monsters you get, especially if you don't have IA5. At least the low arenas have lower monster density per round.

He needs to gain prof; arenas give much less of that, especially the lower ones; and when he has done the first 4/5, the daily quota of doable arenas for his build is over. While he can do 10 RE in a day, gaining vastly more prof.

That's impossible. Even with Avatar+God, it should be still impossible unless he/she finish "All Magnificent" set.

It is possible, because I did it around L.350, with IA3 (Spark, Protection & Spirit Shield), barely reasonable Mag staff and a mix of Mag. & Exq. (only plain cotton prof pieces forged to 5).

Hand-cast Shadow Veil and Haste, never Avatar/God. Start the round with Regen, then target the monsters which have the more complete bars (HP/MP/SP regardless of stregth) with Sleep, Silence and Blind. This is to disable or limit first those that are more probably near to unleash a devastating attack. During this you will almost surely spike (if there are >6 monsters), just wait for the spike to happen, apply fullcure and continue like before. After the first spike, keep an eye on your health and do Cure when it goes below 60%, it shouldn't spike again.

Then spam Weaken on all (even those already affected by S/S/B); then spam Imperil and start attacking with the normal element spell cycle. Most monsters will be cleared quick enough, that the few remaining can have the disabling buff applied when necessary before killing them, without much risk.

It is not faster the 1H, but you do it for prof not speed.

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Jun 13 2021, 11:58

For Mage DEA, otherwise SDE.

Thanks for your suggestion. Makes sense.

Defensive: E > A ≈ D > S = 0
Offensive (melee): S > D > A = E = 0
Offensive (mage): S ≈ D = A = E = 0

For melee shield, if you need defence, it should be:
DEA > SEA ≈ SDE > SDA
But 1H-melee player usually want to become more offensive, so:
SDE ≈ SDA > SEA > DEA

For mage shield, that's simple:
DEA > SEA ≈ SDE > SDA

Right, I will personally pick Str and End first as these two showed their effect clearly, which is damage and health boost, not sure about Dex and Agi, but as someone said here, 1H don't want high evade so Dex is preferred over Agi.

Most of the reason for that is that 1H players prefer to avoid agi.

Agi is a useful stat - it grants physical mitigation in particular - but it also grants evade and attack speed.

1H gets a lot of damage from counter-attacks - which happen when a 1H player blocks or parries. But evade is calculated before block or parry, so if you evade an attack, you cannot counter it. Also, attack speed makes you faster relative to the monsters, which means they attack you less often.

In many situations some evade and attack speed is fine, because you can only do 3 counter-attacks per turn anyway. But still, 1H players generally try to keep attack speed and evade low, because surviving as 1H is easy with the right gear and some forge upgrades.

That's why only shields with str, dex, end sell well. Although, 1H mage players like dex, end, agi on reinforced buckler shields (usually only of the barrier or of the battlecaster).

Thank you so much, very professional, clear, and reasonable explanation, I guess you are a scientific area related person, or an engineer lol. One more question, for me at level 342 who can smoothly clear all AR in PFUDOR with 1H style, what is the best way to earn credits? For now I farm SGs everyday, in PFUDOR if not busy day, and in Normal if busy day, the last AR A150 takes 90-100 min to finish in PFUDOR and 30-40 min in Normal. Which way is better? Is there any other more effective way to earn credits?

It is terrible, because it appears like you're not knowing what you're doing; sorry for being so abrupt, but doing mage is not going to work (not even on low arenas Normal difficulty) if you just throw together some cotton and a staff.

First, staff and Phase must all match (i.e., give MDB, EDB and proficiency all geared for the same element); otherwise Mag or even Leg gear would perform even worse then a set of well-chosen exquisites.

Your build has a staff that could eventually (if it had the right prefix) be used (mainly for Dark, Elec or Wind, possibly for Fire/Ice, never for Holy), but then you have differnet elements in some equip, and even a plain cotton "of Warding" that is quite useless.

For staff/cotton prof, you should start doing only RE with mage build, while doing Arenas with your regular 1H build; that's because doing PFUDOR RE is possible at your level even with unforged Exq. mage build, and gives a lot of prof. While farming arenas is better done with 1H, at least until you have a reasonably good mage staff & set and high enough prof.

Finally, a word of caution; doing mage is not just much more expensive then 1H, it's also much more complicated; you must know (and know well) quite a bit of things about the inner working of all the stuff involved. Take your time to study all there is to know, before plunging into it, because experimenting with it in the wrong way will hurt your wallet, believe me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Thank you so much for your suggestion. You are correct. I had zero knowledge about mage a few days ago and never bought any mage equips. I just look around my current equip inventory and tried to pick up a "better" combination for mage. I feel like it is not a good idea to switch to mage before I have at least 5m credits to be invested in mage equips. I plan to continue with 1H for now, do daily SG farming and selling trophies to earn credits, but also pay attention to mage equip farming by reading more educational post here and checking the auction. Once I am lucky and got a decent mage equip, I will pick the mage style based on the equip and start to invest on mage equips. I guess it will be super time-consuming and credit-consuming lol. Everything here is about the money, have to find out how to earn credits quickly, of course the knowledge of the mage mechanism here as well.

It is not faster the 1H, but you do it for prof not speed.

If a "mage" is slower than melee, I will say, "oh no that's not mage".

Doing that much just for prof. is not an economic choice.
Just cast a spell before OFC cleaning, their prof. gain is the same.

I myself am very lazy and want everything goes quickly and brainlessly.
( But in isekai, I am forced to cast weaken and do something with brain, that's unacceptable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) So I won't join the next season)

This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 13 2021, 15:40

hi,

as mentioned ealier, i'm looking for equips to build an exq-mag mage, but suddenly a critical problem comes to me

nearly all items i could find in WTS is higher than my level, which means to soulfuse, but does it worth?
i doubt if i won't have enough fragments when better equip appear in auction

maybe i should just look for closer level equips, and take some time to find a appropriate set
or i should just stop calculate too much, and enjoy the game

hi,

as mentioned ealier, i'm looking for equips to build an exq-mag mage, but suddenly a critical problem comes to me

nearly all items i could find in WTS is higher than my level, which means to soulfuse, but does it worth?
i doubt if i won't have enough fragments when better equip appear in auction

maybe i should just look for closer level equips, and take some time to find a appropriate set
or i should just stop calculate too much, and enjoy the game

Depend on how much time you can spend in HV. The more you can spend, the later you could switch to mage.

If you do PFDwD everyday, the level up speed should be acceptable before Lv.350. If you do the last 7 Arenas, that should be acceptable before Lv.380. To buy a gold star makes you level up much quicker, you can just wait until Lv.400 (here will be another problem if you switch to mage too late, the Prof. Factor, which can be solved by 1. using Cotton Gloves or Cap as Prof. slot instead of Shoes, or 2. hurrying to Lv.500)

But if your time is highly limited, you'd better stop waiting since your level up speed is slow.

If a "mage" is slower than melee, I will say, "oh no that's not mage".

Doing that much just for prof. is not an economic choice.

Playing HV is not an economic choice, either.

Neither is living, on the whole; and yet most of us insist on doing it.

Different beings do different things for different reasons, given what they have.

And economic choices do not exist: you can only have economic reasons to justify a choice, after the choice has been done already.

Depend on how much time you can spend in HV. The more you can spend, the later you could switch to mage.

And this is exactly the opposite of what I'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Jun 13 2021, 22:00

Haven't played in a while and just learnt about the Isekai mode.
Question: If my goal is credits is it better to run Arena in the highest difficulty that I can do? Would I get more credits that way compared to running it on hard and completing them all faster?

And this is exactly the opposite of what I'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If your idea is "give up mage if time is not enough"
I simply agree.

Haven't played in a while and just learnt about the Isekai mode.
Question: If my goal is credits is it better to run Arena in the highest difficulty that I can do? Would I get more credits that way compared to running it on hard and completing them all faster?

credit from where? isekai? buy a star first or you'll get "almost" nothing but isk.

Edit: The most valuable thing in isekai is trophy, and then forge material, but player cannot sell them without a star
mobs do drop some isk, and will convert to persistent credit when isekai season ends, but the amount is relatively small

This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 14 2021, 03:49

credit from where? isekai? buy a star first or you'll get "almost" nothing but isk.

Oh, so I have to pay money to progress in isekai mode?
Guess I'll stick to persistent mode instead then. Thanks.

nvm

This post has been edited by shamil11: Jun 14 2021, 04:48