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post Jan 16 2021, 08:32
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QUOTE(akir44 @ Jan 16 2021, 01:21) *

hello, i want to ask again.
1. is there any script to judge the quality of equipment from lowest to highest?
i found at the wiki something like this
Average ~188-227
Superior ~228-282
Exquisite ~277-303
Magnificent~304-348
but some of the equipment are above that. did i miss something?
2. is there script that help me determine the price of equipment?
i would like to sell some low level equipment, but dont know what kind of price to put.
3. what kind of equipment should i keep? i dont know which one to sell and which one to kept. for Heavy armor i think it is power prefix, but what about others like staff, two hand, shield, cloth, light armor etc?
thank you.


1 - yes, Live Percentile Ranges shows you how well each stat rolled compared to its minimum and maximum possible values.

2. No.

3. I recommend reading this thread I wrote about prices. It has some info about how to find prices for equipment in it, and what equipment might be valuable.
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post Jan 16 2021, 09:26
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[quote name='Nezu' date='Jan 16 2021, 13:32' post='5841259']
1 - yes, Live Percentile Ranges shows you how well each stat rolled compared to its minimum and maximum possible values.

can you tell me how to make it like this?
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=A...t&id=113606
mine only show base value when i hover my mouse over it. and at the bottom it said "No data available for this equip type"
if i miss something. please tell me how to use it step by step
Thank you.
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post Jan 16 2021, 19:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 16 2021, 04:53) *

I would suggest the usual. Use weaken. Besides that only improving your equipment would help.


Turns out, this is lowkey one of the best tips for starting out as melee.

Having played nothing but glass cannon mage for years, I defaulted to using Imperil in isekai as well, because that's what I was accustomed to. However, Weaken is way, way, WAY more helpful for surviving. Just managed to clear all arenas on IWBTH (except DwD, as it's not unlocked yet) simply by using Weaken over Imperil.

Just wanted to highlight this tip to anyone else starting out in isekai (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 16 2021, 21:25
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Just asking, but do you use a full power armor set? Because you shouldnt. Plate gives higher mitigations and because there arent as many Actuators available also much easier to forge.
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post Jan 16 2021, 23:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 16 2021, 21:25) *

Just asking, but do you use a full power armor set? Because you shouldnt. Plate gives higher mitigations and because there arent as many Actuators available also much easier to forge.


I'm using a mix of random power/plate, depending on what I find (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Haven't forged any armor at all yet, so materials aren't really a factor. I wouldn't want to waste Actuators on Superior/Exquisite armor anyway.
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post Jan 17 2021, 00:25
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Nezu, your thread is a good start for me getting back into the game. But even when I played, I never did mage. I know the meta has shifted (and was back in 2018 anyways) and I know literal jack shit about staves, mage equips, whats good, whats worth scrapping for HGC immediately, etc. I'm reading your thread and the wiki, but besides just spending hours upon hours of my time scouring the forums trying to poorly absorb info gleaned from peoples posts, is there any other advice or areas I can look into to get my knowledge gap back?

I suppose I can check recent auctions, see what equips sell well and stuff to get an idea of whats valuable and whatnot

EDIT: WTF is Weaken the new meta for Melee? I remember the days when me and Decon would tell all melee players to use Imperil because nobody fuckin' did any of that back in the day. Weaken is the new hotness over Imperil? Interesting. Going to have to try it out

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post Jan 17 2021, 02:14
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Mage efficiency question. With a proper setup (ignoring economics for the moment, just equally rare setup say abstract 50% everything Leg) would Dark be better in Arenas than Elec? Imperil seems to be needed either way of course.
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post Jan 17 2021, 09:45
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jan 17 2021, 01:14) *

Mage efficiency question. With a proper setup (ignoring economics for the moment, just equally rare setup say abstract 50% everything Leg) would Dark be better in Arenas than Elec? Imperil seems to be needed either way of course.

I would say 'yes' because of the schoolgirls -> they don't like dark, they are weak against it.
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post Jan 17 2021, 10:11
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QUOTE(aleden @ Jan 16 2021, 22:25) *

EDIT: WTF is Weaken the new meta for Melee? I remember the days when me and Decon would tell all melee players to use Imperil because nobody fuckin' did any of that back in the day. Weaken is the new hotness over Imperil? Interesting. Going to have to try it out


Imperil and Weaken have two different purposes. Imperil makes things die faster. Weaken makes them kill you slower.

People are using weaken a lot at the moment in isekai because we're pushing into high difficulty very early with lower gear than people are normally accustomed to having.
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post Jan 17 2021, 10:48
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jan 17 2021, 04:26) *

I'm using a mix of random power/plate, depending on what I find (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Haven't forged any armor at all yet, so materials aren't really a factor. I wouldn't want to waste Actuators on Superior/Exquisite armor anyway.


is this talkin bout forging in isekai ? cause we dont need actuators and sht right. just the basic mats

edit:
actually you do need special mats. just checked on phase armor and it needs phazon wtf.
re-read the isekai stuff and yea only bindings are not required.

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post Jan 17 2021, 11:54
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jan 17 2021, 10:48) *

is this talkin bout forging in isekai ? cause we dont need actuators and sht right. just the basic mats


Yeah, but even basic mats (mid-grade metals/cloth/wood/leather) are super scarce right now.

Unlike persistent, there is no monster lab to supply you with a steady stream, nor can you just buy them in bulk in WTS threads, because no one has any to spare. They sometimes drop from enemies, but the rates are abysmally low. So basically, you're just limited to a handful of upgrades per equipment, based on how many junk exquisites you manage to salvage.
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post Jan 17 2021, 11:56
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jan 17 2021, 09:54) *

Yeah, but even basic mats (mid-grade metals/cloth/wood/leather) are super scarce right now.

Unlike persistent, there is no monster lab to supply you with a steady stream, nor can you just buy them in bulk in WTS threads, because no one has any to spare. They sometimes drop from enemies, but the rates are abysmally low. So basically, you're just limited to a handful of upgrades per equipment, based on how many junk exquisites you manage to salvage.


Well, wait til you've been farming all arenas on PF for a month or so then see how it feels. They're currently dropping at 4x artifact rate, so they should start to build up in time, especially since people will be selling/trading the ones that don't apply to their build. Don't forget it's a 5ish month marathon from hereon, and you're not expected to get much forging in the first week...
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post Jan 17 2021, 11:57
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in isekai do you think dw can outperform 1h due to the lack of ofc skill?
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post Jan 17 2021, 12:01
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 17 2021, 11:56) *

Well, wait til you've been farming all arenas on PF for a month or so then see how it feels. They're currently dropping at 4x artifact rate, so they should start to build up in time, especially since people will be selling/trading the ones that don't apply to their build. Don't forget it's a 5ish month marathon from hereon, and you're not expected to get much forging in the first week...


Oh, I don't doubt that the situation will improve over time. It's just that right now, in the early days, you can't rely on forging to help you boost your power in the same way that you can in persistent.
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post Jan 17 2021, 12:02
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QUOTE(prot993 @ Jan 17 2021, 09:57) *

in isekai do you think dw can outperform 1h due to the lack of ofc skill?


That's a really big 'maybe'.

DW has a surprisingly high skill ceiling due to interactions between FBs, spirit stance and imperil, as well as placement and timing. It can be used very well by a skilled player, but I would not personally advise an average player to try - they're likely to have a much easier time with 1H. DW is more micromanagement oriented in that regard.

DW will likely outperform 1H in arenas (almost certainly, really) but in Tower? No, probably not.

QUOTE(friggo @ Jan 17 2021, 10:01) *

Oh, I don't doubt that the situation will improve over time. It's just that right now, in the early days, you can't rely on forging to help you boost your power in the same way that you can in persistent.


Don't compare it to persistent then, lol. Persistent is seriously unbalanced for newbies right now compared to how the experience was intended and everyone's been spoiled with just jumping immediately up to PFUDOR on easily-attainable traded legendaries, dirt cheap mid-grades, credits and consumables charity galore...

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post Jan 17 2021, 12:23
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 17 2021, 12:02) *
Persistent is seriously unbalanced for newbies right now compared to how the experience was intended and everyone's been spoiled with just jumping immediately up to PFUDOR on easily-attainable traded legendaries, dirt cheap mid-grades, credits and consumables charity galore...


Hard agree.

That was my point from the beginning:

QUOTE(friggo @ Jan 16 2021, 23:26) *
Haven't forged any armor at all yet, so materials aren't really a factor.


As in, don't expect to have enough materials to do any serious forging this early on. Sorry if it didn't come across well.
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post Jan 17 2021, 20:02
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I havent played for a long time, when do you generally soulbind your equipment? is +- 100 level okay to use?

I have soulfused my weapon even though I know its bad item so I want to be more careful in the future. thanks!
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post Jan 17 2021, 21:30
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Jan 17 2021, 19:02) *

I havent played for a long time, when do you generally soulbind your equipment? is +- 100 level okay to use?

I have soulfused my weapon even though I know its bad item so I want to be more careful in the future. thanks!


It depends. Not just on the item itself, but also on the player level, style, commitment, future plans, stock of soulfrags and forging cost.

Each player has to decide for himself what is better for him, because one can choose to soulbound an item that another would not even touch and still be satisfied.

Generally it's adviced not to soulfuse anything below Legendary or (very good) Magnificent. But it isn't a hard rule, there can be exceptions.

An important factor is the speed at which you intend and/or manage to level up; if you're going to reach a level where you can find many Legendaries and you are short in Soulfrags. , then there's no point to waste them on Mags. (or lower) that you will use only briefly and then change.

But if you have plenty of Soulfrags. and you level up slow, then Mags. can be OK to soulfuse, and even some rare/special Exquisite (like a good Rapier of Slaughter if you do 1H, or a good matching staff if you mage).

Just be careful always to keep enough soulfrags in case you get unexpectedly something that you want to use right away, imho.

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post Jan 17 2021, 22:29
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jan 18 2021, 02:30) *

It depends. Not just on the item itself, but also on the player level, style, commitment, future plans, stock of soulfrags and forging cost.

Each player has to decide for himself what is better for him, because one can choose to soulbound an item that another would not even touch and still be satisfied.

Generally it's adviced not to soulfuse anything below Legendary or (very good) Magnificent. But it isn't a hard rule, there can be exceptions.

An important factor is the speed at which you intend and/or manage to level up; if you're going to reach a level where you can find many Legendaries and you are short in Soulfrags. , then there's no point to waste them on Mags. (or lower) that you will use only briefly and then change.

But if you have plenty of Soulfrags. and you level up slow, then Mags. can be OK to soulfuse, and even some rare/special Exquisite (like a good Rapier of Slaughter if you do 1H, or a good matching staff if you mage).

Just be careful always to keep enough soulfrags in case you get unexpectedly something that you want to use right away, imho.


Ah, I see. I dont plan to rush the game just to fill my time while doing WFH and yeah my soulbound weapon is exquisite rapier lol.

Another question, I use masterbation script and got rather confused how to bind the key, say I place vital strike on skill slot 7, how to bind it to my keyboard?
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post Jan 18 2021, 02:33
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jan 17 2021, 10:11) *

Imperil and Weaken have two different purposes. Imperil makes things die faster. Weaken makes them kill you slower.

People are using weaken a lot at the moment in isekai because we're pushing into high difficulty very early with lower gear than people are normally accustomed to having.

Ah cool, thanks for the info Nezu. I figured that (well, kind of) but I wasn't sure.

Of all times to get back into site functions, I chose this time. Both a kind of interesting time to come back but also, a lot has changed. I have to get back into unlocking my ancient, bygone knowledge. Though I have to say, Isekai doesn't really appeal to me so I'll probably keep chugging along here in persistent. I'm not even level 400, I level slow as fuck so, yannow.

Alright, time to imperil some motherfuckers
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