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How to configure mouse/keyboard/monsterbation for a mage?
So, today I put some mismatched cloth, took a staff and made through a few short arenas on hard.
It was interesting, fast and even SoL was not triggered.
It was also very frustrating as I don't get a neat way to play as a mage, as is at lost how to configure keyboard and mouse.
Basic tactic seems to be: imperil all (Ctrl-Z to C as targeted Imperils, same as melee, MMouse for failed), cast Tier3, then T2-T1 as needed. For now, I have T3 on B shortcut and Ctrl-hover as T2-T1 rotation. But don't feel easy or natural with this.
How do you play mage?

How to configure mouse/keyboard/monsterbation for a mage?
So, today I put some mismatched cloth, took a staff and made through a few short arenas on hard.
It was interesting, fast and even SoL was not triggered.
It was also very frustrating as I don't get a neat way to play as a mage, as is at lost how to configure keyboard and mouse.
Basic tactic seems to be: imperil all (Ctrl-Z to C as targeted Imperils, same as melee, MMouse for failed), cast Tier3, then T2-T1 as needed. For now, I have T3 on B shortcut and Ctrl-hover as T2-T1 rotation. But don't feel easy or natural with this.
How do you play mage?

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startRoundWithHover: false,


   mouseEngage: false,
    clickLeft: Strongest([ToggleHover, Use(5)]),
     clickRight: Strongest([Use('n1'), Use(7)]),
    hoverAction: Strongest([Cast('Ragnarok'), Cast('Disintegrate'), Cast('Corruption')]), // Dark spell rotation
    hoverShiftAction: Strongest([ToggleHover, Cast('Imperil')]), // single cast of Imperil


bind: "\
          Bind(KEY_Z, Shift, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_X, Shift, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_X, Ctrl, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_Z, Alt, ToggleHover);\
           Bind(KEY_Z, ToggleHover);\        
          Bind(KEY_SPACE, Strongest([Use(3), Cast('Full-Cure'), Cast('Cure'), Use(2)]));\
          Bind(KEY_SPACE, Shift, Strongest([Use(3), Cast('Full-Cure'), Use(2), Cast('Cure')]));\
          Bind(KEY_F, Strongest([Use('s6'), Use('s5'), Use('s4'), Use(12), Use('s3')]));\
          Bind(KEY_P, Use(8));\
          Bind(KEY_Q, HoverAction(Cast('MagNet')));\
          Bind(KEY_DOWN, Settings);\
          ",

Like this. Start round: point at monster, press shift Z, point at next, press Z, etc until all imperiled. then press Z to get the hover going. Kill em all. Next round.

Thank you!

startRoundWithHover: false,

This was the key!

This post has been edited by dibdib: May 26 2020, 22:11

Repair Bear hath perk is worth or not for 2 GF run daily?

Repair Bear hath perk is worth or not for 2 GF run daily?

Repair Bear need a shit-tone or two of Fest's to pay off. With two GF per day, that could take a while. I would say that it shouldnt be anywhere near of your high priority list.

Just to make sure you understand what i am talking about, it would take years to pay off with what you play right now.

And according to math and current hath prices you would need 4000 Fest until repair bear does pay off. These number comes to you thanks to lestion. If you have any problem with the number 4k, blame him not me.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: May 27 2020, 06:00

Is there a good way to cast full imperil at the start of rounds without using the keyboard? What is script allowed to do for this?

Is there a good way to cast full imperil at the start of rounds without using the keyboard? What is script allowed to do for this?

Well, you can just bind imperil to a mouse key, don't start round with hover, and then toggle hover with another mouse key. But automated, that would not be allowed.

i repeat my scheme:
disable "have hoverplay active at the beginning of each round"
left click & hover - T3 & T2 & T1
wheel up - imperil
wheel down - toggle hover
right click - cure

try, it's fast and simble

I'm guessing either of those won't be a big improvement over what I'm doing already. I just leave hover on at all times, and I manually leave the monster area between rounds, wheel up for imperil, then touch the mouse cursor to a monster and leave the area again, and wheel up while I'm moving 3 monsters down.

I don't think I made any changes to the default behavior of the script. I guess this seems to be about the fastest someone can go without the keyboard. Just wanted to make sure since I'm finishing up gathering my month-long imperil comparison data for rapier play.

Wait, would it be allowed to bind imperil plus a particular monster target to a mouse key, like you can for a keyboard key? Then just like using the keyboard, I could set 3 mouse buttons to be Imperil Monster 2, Imperil Monster 5, Imperil Monster 8.

Even better, is it allowed/possible to bind wheel up to imperil plus a click, and on a particular monster target? Then someone could just roll the wheel around with the mouse cursor in a neutral area.

Monsterbar? lines 153-158, not available from settings in menu.

Regarding old soulfused equipment like Mags and lower, should I sell them at the bazaar for the credits? Or is salvaging them better?

Depends on what equipment it is.

Honestly, one of the safest ways to make that choice is with HV Utils https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211883 , it'll tell you both the sell and salvage value (you can change the sales price of materials to match current forum prices).

What is the stun chance on counter attack with 1H style? Has anyone studied it?

So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

This post has been edited by FruitSmoothie: May 29 2020, 15:20

So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

Gambling on the shrine will rarely, if ever, go in your favour. Check out Decondelites low level auction (this weeks: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=238603 ), the prices for low level gear in that are pretty good, and most should be in soulfuse range. Just don't worry too much about getting very high end legendaries, best worry about those once you are more set up, with a steady income, and know what style you want to play for sure.

Back to the trophies, they are a good source of income to help fund buying better gear if you sell them, especially now that their prices have gone up. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=236519 lestions hvmarket is a good place to sell stuff like that . People with Follower of Snowflake have a use for them, but for everyone else the chance of getting legendaries is piss poor, and then the chance of getting a legendary that's actually useful is really bad. Then if the stars align and you do get one, you have to hope they are good rolls. Most people will make a loss shrining them.

This post has been edited by Ubershank: May 29 2020, 15:30

So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

"Good gear" is the mean, not the goal. They're what it takes to survive and deal damage at higher levels.
You'll eventually have access to more stuff as you level up, but also notice that the monsters will also be more and more mean. And it's where the spiral starts: better gear, more forging, more credits and grinding needed to defeat the ever stronger monsters.

At Lvl500, the monsters stop being stronger, but they're all damn tanks. And by tank, I mean both in sturdiness and damage output. One does not simply survive without decently forged "good gear", as you call it.

"Good gear" is the mean, not the goal. They're what it takes to survive and deal damage at higher levels.
You'll eventually have access to more stuff as you level up, but also notice that the monsters will also be more and more mean. And it's where the spiral starts: better gear, more forging, more credits and grinding needed to defeat the ever stronger monsters.

At Lvl500, the monsters stop being stronger, but they're all damn tanks. And by tank, I mean both in sturdiness and damage output. One does not simply survive without decently forged "good gear", as you call it.

It is my goal. People have different reasons to play. I'm well aware of everything you mentioned with leveling up.

Gambling on the shrine will rarely, if ever, go in your favour.

Back to the trophies, they are a good source of income to help fund buying better gear if you sell them, especially now that their prices have gone up. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=236519 lestions hvmarket is a good place to sell stuff like that . People with Follower of Snowflake have a use for them, but for everyone else the chance of getting legendaries is piss poor, and then the chance of getting a legendary that's actually useful is really bad. Then if the stars align and you do get one, you have to hope they are good rolls. Most people will make a loss shrining them.

Thanks, yeah, I remember the shrine being unreliable. That market does seem cool if it functions properly, I'm still a bit iffy about trusting programs like that though. Too bad the game still doesn't have a built in player shop. Maybe I'll just open a shop on the forum soon for that stuff. I was originally just going to try and keep to myself since returning and see how I can do without using the forum and stuff like that but I forgot how dependent on others you are for everything here.

This post has been edited by FruitSmoothie: May 30 2020, 00:31

can someone give me some mage tips?

currently i start off with 3 imperil cast, then t3, then t1/t2 clean up. this works fine for IWBTH but in PFFest my spark of life is getting triggered before i can even get my 3 imperils off. Am i doing this right?

currently only forged to 15 on each piece.
i know how minimal the benefits of forging past 25 on gear becomes and considering it's cloth, I can't imagine the defense bonus will be able to offset this kind of damage. is there a consensus on forge level to complete pffest?


i'm really hesitant to invest into my charged wind gear cause i'm getting slaughtered in pffest before i even reach round 500. with spirit elixiers i can last until 500-600 but the damage is so high and frequent i sometimes cant even get my 3 imperil cast off without spark of life being triggered. also my damage is kind of on the low end with only 4619MDB and 340% EDB && DDVI.

This post has been edited by jackalo: May 30 2020, 03:49

Hi,

I play 1h style now and don't have too much credit for mage.

I wonder what's the benefit for soulfuse if I could pass all PFUDOR arena.(at current 3xx level)

I only soulfuse 34 block ex force shield right now. And I always can find something from shop or monster.
and any benefit for 500lv soulfuse(2x pxp from IW?)

BTW, is there any advance search function for forum?
it's hard to search the old post

can someone give me some mage tips?

currently i start off with 3 imperil cast, then t3, then t1/t2 clean up. this works fine for IWBTH but in PFFest my spark of life is getting triggered before i can even get my 3 imperils off. Am i doing this right?

currently only forged to 15 on each piece.
i know how minimal the benefits of forging past 25 on gear becomes and considering it's cloth, I can't imagine the defense bonus will be able to offset this kind of damage. is there a consensus on forge level to complete pffest?
i'm really hesitant to invest into my charged wind gear cause i'm getting slaughtered in pffest before i even reach round 500. with spirit elixiers i can last until 500-600 but the damage is so high and frequent i sometimes cant even get my 3 imperil cast off without spark of life being triggered. also my damage is kind of on the low end with only 4619MDB and 340% EDB && DDVI.

PFest is meant to be very, very hard and even at full forge, it's a little unpleasant. You should farm on IWBTH until PF is more comfortable for you. If you're not using scrolls (protection/swiftness/shadows), their buffs are considerably better than the casted/IA versions, so those help a lot.

Hi,

I play 1h style now and don't have too much credit for mage.

I wonder what's the benefit for soulfuse if I could pass all PFUDOR arena.(at current 3xx level)

I only soulfuse 34 block ex force shield right now. And I always can find something from shop or monster.
and any benefit for 500lv soulfuse(2x pxp from IW?)

BTW, is there any advance search function for forum?
it's hard to search the old post

Soulfusing keeps your equipment at your level no matter how many times you level up. It's always useful if you've got good equipment but it's not as good anymore due to level scaling. A level 500 player gets no benefit from soulfusing a level 500 item, but anything lower level is worth soulfusing even for them. (Technically, they get increased PXP gain in item world, but this is actually a negative because it means you have to do your first runs on Hell & Nintendo instead of IWBTH then PFUDOR if you want to use amnesia shards efficiently.)

Finding replacements for your equipment becomes harder when you're using good items (particularly legendaries, but even magnificents can be hard to replace).

There is this tool for forum searching. It isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the native search, although it requires some player input. You press 'save' to save all threads on the page into its database, and then you can search them. It will show you the age of the thread (and the last time it was updated), and you can remove threads from your database at your discretion.

This post has been edited by lestion: May 30 2020, 07:07