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Sep 25 2019, 18:12
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Sep 25 2019, 17:47)  only if you use some inferior non-free OS
you don't like mac, i guess...
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Sep 25 2019, 18:35
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 25 2019, 18:12)  you don't like mac, i guess...
mac os was excellent at some point, but now you can't boot from RAID, can't encrypt your home folder only etc., and i have come to prefer something with more customisation options. i'm still getting great use out of their hardware though
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Sep 25 2019, 18:55
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Sep 25 2019, 18:35)  i'm still getting great use out of their hardware though
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) for how i see it, mac os main point has been to be so strictly integrated with hardware that they could afford to optimize it for a specific machine. if windows could be fit in such a way, probably its memory management would be better
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Sep 25 2019, 21:50
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 21:12)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Yep! We're talking shit again from Microsoft. and again, unless a moderator comes saying "dudes, stay on topic" this can still be considered as "discussing about the stability of a platform to run the game". so, until a mod speaks... Spoiler text - Highlight to read...
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Sep 25 2019, 22:18
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Noni
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Dudes! Please. Keep your operating system stable so you can grind in the HentaiVerse!
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Sep 25 2019, 22:54
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Arkoniusx
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Just whit the name, the Legendary Zircon cotton cap of protection, have some value? Fuck me!, is the 3 Legendary cloth that I have and is trash. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Sep 25 2019, 22:55
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Sep 26 2019, 00:17
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 25 2019, 22:18)  Dudes! Please. Keep your operating system stable so you can grind in the HentaiVerse!
a mod descended! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 22:54)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Just whit the name, the Legendary Zircon cotton cap of protection, have some value? Fuck me!, is the 3 Legendary cloth that I have and is trash. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) desired suffixes for cotton are proficiencies: heaven-sent, demon-fiend and elementalist. someone may want some peerless-ish earth-walker or curse-weaver for experimenting, but it's something like once in a blue moon. protection and warding are insta-salvaging.
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Sep 26 2019, 08:31
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Arkoniusx
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Quick question, why are there so many users at my level or a little higher than my level, who have almost no credits? I do not want to say how much I have, but I have enough to improve my new legendary armor as they appear completely up to grade 5, and still I would have enough credits. I don't want to sound offensive, but it will be because they spend too many credits on material H, for ... you know ...?
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Sep 26 2019, 09:09
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ahroun
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Well, I'd say you never have enough credits, and moreover when you are starting this game.
Right now, part of my credits (whatever comes from Precursor Artifacts and Noodly Appendages) goes straight to get Hath perks.
Then, from whatever I make from trophies and loot, I try to keep a balance between purchasing/upgrading gears and getting training (LoTD and Archeologist are my priorities in this regard).
I have yet to drop something really valuable, like over 1M.
There is also the fact that levels 300-400 are the worst gears wise. It's where gears get most expensive (see recent Super's auctions regarding some rapiers that were shit, but people paid 1.5-2.5M for them) and where you also start considering upgrading your gears.
Well, that's for the upper level half of that, I'd say. On the lower half, and especially between 300-310, you're just figuring out what to get and start switching from "getting whatever" to getting some proper stuff, mag level at least if possible. Plus you start thinking about switching to PFUDOR, if possible.
And yet, you do need to upgrade your gears periodically (if you haven't soulfused), because things get obsolete.
Well, at least that's my case, more or less. And I'm very stingy regarding soulfusing: either it's something I really need, like a Force Shield or I won't soulfuse it. If possible I'd like to soulfuse stuff that has at least 50% ADB, PMit and MMit.
Yeah, it's surprising how many people focus only on ADB and forget about getting a decent PMit and MMit for their Legendary Power Armors...
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Sep 26 2019, 10:24
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 26 2019, 07:31)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Quick question, why are there so many users at my level or a little higher than my level, who have almost no credits? I do not want to say how much I have, but I have enough to improve my new legendary armor as they appear completely up to grade 5, and still I would have enough credits. I don't want to sound offensive, but it will be because they spend too many credits on material H, for ... you know ...? A lot of those people probably do have more credits than you, they just also consider themselves still very poor because they don't have enough for the things they want to buy next... like, say, 8 million for DD1 (and obviously, much more for every level thereafter...).
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Sep 26 2019, 13:02
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BlueWaterSplash
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How much spare credits a non-rich player has around doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their purchasing habits. Because all credits can easily be sunk on Training or Hath Perks, especially considering these increase exponentially the higher you go. Your pocket funds may sometimes have more to do with how much you feel you want to keep in reserve to win auctions. I regret not buying any hath when the market recently crashed. I was too stingy and hopeful hath would drop further. I looked at my wallet at the time and it would have been drained. If I could go back in time I would buy hath now. Although any day an equipment that I want could appear for sale then I will be thankful I hoarded up credits. QUOTE(ahroun)  Why is Hallowed considered to be on par of Demonic when both are the same against SGs, but then Hallowed isn't as good vs normal monsters? Research for 1H concluded that Demonic and Hallowed were effectively identical. The 18.60% to 18.51% difference is nothing compared to the differences with other elements, and within the realm of calculation, assumption, or methodology variation. Other people including myself have tried other methods of comparison and tend to agree Demonic and Hallowed is close enough to warrant the same prices, though individuals including myself may prefer one to the other as personal bias. In regards to a question you asked way back, I also wondered long ago if counter attacks could be parried. Checking battle logs I never saw that happen, so I'm guessing not. This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Sep 27 2019, 01:30
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Sep 26 2019, 13:32
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KitsuneAbby
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Please stop weaving that research for everything and anything. Keep in mind that this research is old. Nowadays the monsters we face are stronger in average.
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Sep 26 2019, 15:07
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Scremaz
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also, broken link :B QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 26 2019, 08:31)  I don't want to sound offensive, but it will be because they spend too many credits on material H, for ... you know ...?
actually H is quite cheap, if compared to HV expenses.
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Sep 26 2019, 15:57
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ahroun
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Here, made this little excel with current monster database.
Monsters.zip ( 5.3mb )
Number of downloads: 14In the lower part, there are the averages according to a max and min PL range. Take your own conclusions, but one of mine is that Imperil changes a lot of things regarding weapons vs high level monsters. Assuming you have maxed Imperil and Holy and Dark Imperils (-40 ele mit, -25 holy and dark mits). For example, in this case (in parenthesis, elemental mitigations under Imperil): CODE PL Min = 1751 PL Max = 2250
Fire = 64.81 (24.81) Cold = 57.50 (17.50) Elec = 63.24 (23.24) Wind = 59.30 (19.30) Holy = 57.89 (32.89) Dark = 53.79 (28.79)
Talking about Melee weapons, not about mages that got a completely different makeup. Now, I understand that non-Imp style you prefer Holy and Dark weapons for normal monsters. At least they'll have the most effect. But, using Imperil, they are the worst except vs Schoolgirls and similar monsters. You'd prefer an Arctic Weapon with Infusion of Wind for more effect of your elemental strikes. And also, this confirms that Demonic is better than Hallowed. The difference is 46% Dark damage that passes, vs 42% Holy damage that passes, being Hallowed at the same level as Cold if non-Imperiled (for those who think that a 4% difference doesn't mean much, it's the equivalent of a 10% damage in elemental strikes). Of course, this doesn't take into account whole PMit and MMit of each of the monsters, that could influence the results. Still, the highest mitigation monsters are usually weaker to Cold and Dark (think of Dragonkin and Giants, for example) while the most dangerous being Celestials and Sprites due to their special attacks are usually pretty weak, so it isn't like having elements specifically against them is gonna help you much. I mean, using a nuke instead of a cannon to swat a fly has a similar effect regarding the fly. This post has been edited by ahroun: Sep 26 2019, 21:28
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Sep 26 2019, 16:31
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Shank
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Sep 26 2019, 14:57)  Here, made this little excel with current monster database.
Thanks for sharing, just taking a nosy at that now. Also, only 1 of my monsters got scanned (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Though most are extremely low leveled, so not surprised.
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Sep 26 2019, 21:37
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ahroun
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Expanded the table with the whole list (sheet 2 of the spreadsheet), including the stale monster, for up to more than 50,000 monsters.
I also added a distribution of monster types, so that we could see.
I wasn't able to add an standard deviation option to the table, because excel doesn't have a standard deviation formula that allows for conditions the same AVERAGEIF does.
But well, you can see that the most used monsters are Celestials, Dragonkin and Giants; with Celestials making up for almost 20% of the monsters with a PL over 1750.
Undead get some love, but Daimons are mainly ignored.
This post has been edited by ahroun: Sep 26 2019, 21:37
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Sep 26 2019, 21:54
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Noni
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Sep 26 2019, 21:37)  Expanded the table with the whole list (sheet 2 of the spreadsheet), including the stale monster, for up to more than 50,000 monsters.
I also added a distribution of monster types, so that we could see.
I wasn't able to add an standard deviation option to the table, because excel doesn't have a standard deviation formula that allows for conditions the same AVERAGEIF does.
But well, you can see that the most used monsters are Celestials, Dragonkin and Giants; with Celestials making up for almost 20% of the monsters with a PL over 1750.
Undead get some love, but Daimons are mainly ignored.
I have some high level daimons
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Sep 26 2019, 22:51
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 26 2019, 21:54)  I have some high level daimons
PL Min = 1751
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Sep 26 2019, 22:56
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ahroun
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Well, I've never meant that they aren't. When I say "ignore" I mean it in the statistical sense: that is, lower frequency.
Still, see that your monsters are closer to 1500 than to 2250.
At my level, 356, my PL max is around 2250 at PFUDOR. That means that I'll find monsters with PLs ranging from 1125 to 2250; but with more preference to monsters close to my PL cap, that is, 2250.
A level 500 player has max PL of 3307 (yes, I know the cap is at 2250, but not sure if it applies to the pl_max variable that also defines his minimum), and I guess that his minimum is 1653, with even more chances of seeing PL 2250 monsters in his runs.
Check out monsters over 1750 and especially over 2000. Celestials make up 1/4 of the monsters ranging the 1750 to 2000 PL range, and 11% of the highest level ranks (2000 to 2250). Daimons barely make for 2% in the 1750-2000 range, with 3.6% monsters being Daimon on the higher level ranges.
That's mostly the monsters you'll find out. When I saw decon's list first time, it was like, "shit, I think I've seen all of these. Too often for my liking".
For example, I see First of the Porn Start, Noel The Celestial or any of the Peerless series constantly (all of them are level 2250). It's been a while since I saw My Little Noni.
Obviously, this doesn't apply to players with lower levels/difficulty. But of course, they (and me too) prefer Holy/Dark combo thanks to the schoolbitches.
See that my comment Holy (or even Dark) with Imperil is more directed towards non-SG arenas (that is, IW and Grindfest), that are the areas where high leveled players go.
PS: I'm up for seeing more Daimons, so feed them up so that my Hallowed Shortsword can kill them.
Edit: fixed calculations of PL for level 500.
This post has been edited by ahroun: Sep 26 2019, 22:58
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