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Aug 13 2019, 12:13
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Arkoniusx
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No, the script does not work that way, and no, nobody is going to buy you something of that kind of quality at the price you buy it in the bazaar, that's why those weapons are there, nobody wants them or needs them.
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Aug 13 2019, 12:18
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FalconF
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 13 2019, 07:13)  No, the script does not work that way, and no, nobody is going to buy you something of that kind of quality at the price you buy it in the bazaar, that's why those weapons are there, nobody wants them or needs them.
Even legendary equipment?
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Aug 13 2019, 12:22
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Arkoniusx
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Well, yes, take for example that I have a Peerless weapon that nobody wants to buy, now imagine that, if nobody wants to buy me a peerless grade weapon, obviously there will also be legendary weapons and equipment that nobody wants to buy.
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Aug 13 2019, 12:28
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 13 2019, 11:13)  No, the script does not work that way, and no, nobody is going to buy you something of that kind of quality at the price you buy it in the bazaar, that's why those weapons are there, nobody wants them or needs them.
This is not necessarily true - we have an entire thread of Bazaar Finds where people have mistakenly sold useful equipment. Sometimes you can even find Peerless there. But it is very rare. However... buying something from the Equipment Shop in-game makes it untradeable, so it's only worth buying something you want for yourself, and even then - only if it is worth the inflated bazaar prices. How will you know if something is worth buying? While there's no replacement for experience, decondelite's auctions have a fairly exhaustive list of items that are valuable at various level ranges, which can be used as rule of thumb. (See the 'submitting items for auction' heading). QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 13 2019, 11:13)  No, the script does not work that way, and no, nobody is going to buy you something of that kind of quality at the price you buy it in the bazaar, that's why those weapons are there, nobody wants them or needs them.
Essentially, it DOES work that way - it filters the equipment shop down to only legendaries, peerlesses, and certain desirable magnificents (including those that salvage for materials that are worth more than their buy price). This post has been edited by lestion: Aug 13 2019, 12:32
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Aug 13 2019, 12:30
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FalconF
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 13 2019, 07:22)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Well, yes, take for example that I have a Peerless weapon that nobody wants to buy, now imagine that, if nobody wants to buy me a peerless grade weapon, obviously there will also be legendary weapons and equipment that nobody wants to buy. But why ppl sell legendary equip rather than salvage?
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Aug 13 2019, 12:33
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FalconF
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And one more thing wanna know: Do I have to play Arena to obtain token of blood? In which way shall be good to get it without spending much time?
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Aug 13 2019, 12:34
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Nezu
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 13 2019, 11:30)  But why ppl sell legendary equip rather than salvage?
Generally, weapons, light armor and heavy armor sell to the bazaar for more credits than the materials they salvage for are worth. Staffs, shields and cloth generally are worth more to salvage. There are rare exceptions but HVUtils can make reliable decisions for you on what to sell and what to salvage. QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 13 2019, 11:33)  And one more thing wanna know: Do I have to play Arena to obtain token of blood? In which way shall be good to get it without spending much time?
All battles can drop tokens. They are fairly rare without Tokenizer perks. In order of value per time spent - random encounters are best, then arenas, then grindfest and item world (depending on whether you want crystals, or to level equipment). This post has been edited by lestion: Aug 13 2019, 12:35
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Aug 13 2019, 12:44
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acnx365
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I have a question; If i upgrade spell damage in melee weapon, would it increase elemental strike power?
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Aug 13 2019, 12:51
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Nezu
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QUOTE(acnx365 @ Aug 13 2019, 11:44)  I have a question; If i upgrade spell damage in melee weapon, would it increase elemental strike power?
No, it doesn't.
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Aug 13 2019, 13:09
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KitsuneAbby
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Little thing: my auction listings are good guidelines to know what items are reasonably sought-after, at least enough to be auctioned, but that doesn't mean that everything else is undesirable.
For example there is still a small demand for suboptimal Mag Power Lvl300-350 that tend to pick the interest of players with a very low budget. Same goes for Exq Power of Protection Lvl250-300, that tend to be used by players who don't want to wait for a good Mag in that range, or are allergic to Warding, but overall bear with that until they get their hands on more serious stuff once they leveled up a bit. There are even things that tend to sell a bit, while the majority of the playerbase would discard instantly. Such as Legendary Wakizashi of Slaughter (I swear that these things don't stay on display for long), or Lvl250-350 plain Mag cotton/phase.
Still, what I'm getting at isn't that one should get his hopes up when he has stuff that my auctions don't list (let's not get crazy), but that these listings are not an absolute rule. Proof: I do make exceptions from time to time for equipment that don't fit, yet still have "something" that makes them desirable. That's where experience kicks in.
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Aug 13 2019, 13:53
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mega-wifeacc
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 13 2019, 14:09)  There are even things that tend to sell a bit, while the majority of the playerbase would discard instantly. Such as Legendary Wakizashi of Slaughter (I swear that these things don't stay on display for long), or Lvl250-350 plain Mag cotton/phase.
Low level players can 1H waki before being able to afford (or care about) a rapier. That's what I did. It's super tanky. A good example of equipment that might not be sought after by experts but others might find useful.
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Aug 13 2019, 16:00
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FalconF
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I saw a legendary force shield in bazaar. I think a force shield with suffix of protection shall be good. Is there anything else that matters the evaluation? Legendary Ruby Force Shield of ProtectionThis post has been edited by FalconF: Aug 13 2019, 16:01
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Aug 13 2019, 16:03
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Nezu
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 13 2019, 15:00)  I saw a legendary force shield in bazaar. I think a force shield with suffix of protection shall be good. Is there anything else that matters the evaluation?
Well, to you, the level especially would be important. If it's a level 500 shield, you would be unable to soulfuse it for so long, you are likely to have found a better one in the meantime. Other important things are whether the attributes on it are strength, dexterity and endurance. Combinations involving agi are less desirable for 1H players, although on a low level force shield it would not matter so much. At high levels, a user would also consider how good the block percentile is, and after that, physical mitigation and the quality of the primary attributes.
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Aug 13 2019, 16:08
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FalconF
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QUOTE(lestion @ Aug 13 2019, 11:03)  Well, to you, the level especially would be important. If it's a level 500 shield, you would be unable to soulfuse it for so long, you are likely to have found a better one in the meantime.
Other important things are whether the attributes on it are strength, dexterity and endurance. Combinations involving agi are less desirable for 1H players, although on a low level force shield it would not matter so much.
At high levels, a user would also consider how good the block percentile is, and after that, physical mitigation and the quality of the primary attributes.
I know, just try to learn how to evaluate and find good equips.
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Aug 13 2019, 16:17
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Nezu
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 13 2019, 15:08)  I know, just try to learn how to evaluate and find good equips.
One of the most useful tools for evaluating equipment quality is Superlatanium's Live Percentile Ranges. Learning the most important stat on an item (for example, block rate on the shield you mentioned) and watching those stats can help you make a considerably better estimate about their value. This is still secondary to it being the right type of equipment for the fighting style you are aiming for. Those most important things are using equipment that has beneficial prefixes and suffixes for your style, and a base type that suits it also. For shields, a 1H player generally is going to prefer force shields because they have considerably higher block rate than other types, and then they may look for a shield of protection for better physical mitigation. Of course, for a low level player, there are very few accessible items on the market, so compromises often must be made. Sometimes, if you cannot get a good force shield, a kite shield might be worth considering. Mega-wifeacc also pointed out that, in the case that a rapier or shortsword is not available, a wakizashi can still be a very good defensive weapon - even though at high level, a wakizashi of slaughter would be almost universally disregarded. An exhaustive list of useful combinations would take some considerable time to write out, but for general reference, high-level players may list their equipment in their signatures (which would help). You could also ask here for advice specific to a fighting style.
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Aug 13 2019, 16:41
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Bolide
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Aug 13 2019, 16:46
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Bolide @ Aug 13 2019, 15:41)  Although "Ethereal" Suffix made the staff no burden(quite a little more evade chance than others), but it has no elemental spell bonus which is much more important.
The max burden a (legendary) Katalox staff can have is 8.54. All others have 6.16 or lower. A featherweight shard reduces an item's burden by 50%, or flat 7 - whichever is higher. So besides for Katalox staffs (the least used type), a mage can completely eliminate their staff's burden with a featherweight shard. This is why ethereal isn't really a benefit for burden, either.
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Aug 13 2019, 17:03
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FalconF
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QUOTE(lestion @ Aug 13 2019, 11:17)  You could also ask here for advice specific to a fighting style.
Thank you. I am about playing 1H style. Is it fine for me spending credits on Hatch to unlock Innate Arcana I?
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Aug 13 2019, 17:04
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 13 2019, 17:03)  Is it fine for me spending credits on Hatch to unlock Innate Arcana I?
Yes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Aug 13 2019, 18:02
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FalconF
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Btw, when is fine for me to turn to use heavy armor? Also, what is ADB? Is that average damage bonus?
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