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Jun 16 2019, 10:17
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 16 2019, 08:51)  What lestion forgot mention is that when prices for ED actually would decrease, so would the price you could demand for PA, so in the end you still would get more or less the same. Also i still wait for an explanaition why ED prices should falll, some people keep telling prices does and should do, and some people in WTS and WTB acting according to that, but imo this looks more like a self-fulfilling prophecy as something that happens with a real reason, because imo there is no reason for ED prices for fall in the long-term. Nothing actually did change between now and one year ago, except that people telling without any explanaition that ED prices do fall.
Why should they fall?... because they're barely getting bought at the current prices. I mean, that's totally okay if everyone is happy with sitting on their stash, but if it's based on the idea that one day the buyers will suddenly appear out of nowhere... I suspect there is very little foundation for that belief. This is basic supply and demand... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Last time this came up, when you listed the WTS prices as the going rate for EDs, I asked you if you could find many shop orders for them at those prices. How far back would you have to dig? I looked at the cheapest you listed (hc br's shop) and went back several months without finding ANY orders for EDs. And I would be willing to guess (without checking) that other shops have similar cases... Auction prices also reflect this: people are willing to buy stacks of EDs at around 80k per unit, but not considerably more. This post has been edited by lestion: Jun 16 2019, 10:19
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Jun 16 2019, 10:18
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Arkoniusx
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I ask you once again Uncle Stu, there is a topic where you can discuss that kind of things, like for example what you just pointed out, that there is no reason for energy drinks to go down in price at the moment.
Por que de verdad me gustaría hablar acerca de ese tipo de tópicos
This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Jun 16 2019, 10:20
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Jun 16 2019, 10:24
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Noni
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 16 2019, 10:18)  I ask you once again Uncle Stu, there is a topic where you can discuss that kind of things, like for example what you just pointed out, that there is no reason for energy drinks to go down in price at the moment.
Por que de verdad me gustaría hablar acerca de ese tipo de tópicos
Feel free to use the Ponyverse chat thread for that. And, this forum is solo inglés
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Jun 16 2019, 11:04
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17)  Why should they fall?
PA? Well, their price is based of what you get out of them, when what comes out of them is lower as the price they pay, buyer will no longer buy for that price, they are not stupid. QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17)  ... because they're barely getting bought at the current prices.
ED market was never actually big and may i remember you all for the 100th time, the easter even was recently. Easter even aka everyone gets a lot of ED. And sometimes you have to wait. I waited not long ago quite a while for a buyer for a few phazon. So what? Should i decrease prices just when dont sell any of a specific thing? No, you dont, you wait. QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17)  I mean, that's totally okay if everyone is happy with sitting on their stash, but if it's based on the idea that one day the buyers will suddenly appear out of nowhere... I suspect there is very little foundation for that belief. This is basic supply and demand... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I opened my shop end of february and at first the only two things i did had in stock were quite a few ED, 50 iirc, for 100k and some HGC for 13k. Only minutes later i did sold all of them. And please tell me, what did actually changed between then and now that would actually explain, why i should now sell my ED for much cheaper? Because that argument is the whole discussion still completly lacking. Because you and some other say so? Sorry, but that is not enough. QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17)  Auction prices also reflect this: people are willing to buy stacks of EDs at around 80k per unit, but not considerably more.
Self-fulfilling prophecy, ask your search engine if you are not familiar with the therm. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Also the last order for ED iirc in my shop was this one. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5411888And unless you actually have a real argument and/or reason why ED prices should drop, i end this discussion from my side. Because i am sick to repeat the same words over and over again, without any real arguments of the other side.
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Jun 16 2019, 11:18
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Arkoniusx
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 16 2019, 11:24)  Feel free to use the Ponyverse chat thread for that. And, this forum is solo inglés (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Sorry, I was answering in 2 forums at the same time, it is not the first time that happens to me, besides that sometimes my internet dies before the message I write is edited correctly.
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Jun 18 2019, 00:10
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KitsuneAbby
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No. Definitely no. Not even if it was Legendary.
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Jun 18 2019, 00:17
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 17 2019, 23:50)  A little help here, it's worth spending 60 thousand credits to improve this armor:
It is plain leather, so no it is not. Go get a shade, (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Also for the next time, hover your cursor above the item and press c and post the link you get, it will tell us much more information, even when in this case it was not really needed because it was quite obvious. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jun 18 2019, 00:18
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Jun 18 2019, 01:11
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Arkoniusx
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I can not, because I'm on the cell phone, when I'm not, I do what they recommended me to press the letter c to get the link and post it here.
By the way, I suppose it's a good idea to sell the aforementioned armor in the bazaar, is not it?
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Jun 18 2019, 02:05
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 18 2019, 01:11)  By the way, I suppose it's a good idea to sell the aforementioned armor in the bazaar, is not it?
Welll if you dont want to have it as part of your collection there is no reason to do something else.
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Jun 18 2019, 09:59
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Arkoniusx
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Jun 18 2019, 10:05
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 18 2019, 09:59)  see any worthwhile for me to change from light to heavy armor?
Just keep in mind that when you change, it has to be a full set of armor. Otherwhise you wouldnt get the ability bonus for that armor.
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Jun 18 2019, 10:13
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Arkoniusx
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 18 2019, 11:05)  Just keep in mind that when you change, it has to be a full set of armor. Otherwhise you wouldnt get the ability bonus for that armor.
I know, I used to bring heavy weapons since I was handling 2-handed weapons, but now that I'm with a shield and a sword, it does not look too efficient to bring heavy equipment.
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Jun 18 2019, 10:22
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 18 2019, 09:13)  I know, I used to bring heavy weapons since I was handling 2-handed weapons, but now that I'm with a shield and a sword, it does not look too efficient to bring heavy equipment.
Other way round - 1H players want to use heavy armour, while other melee styles traditionally use light. This is for 2 reasons - 1H prefers to avoid evade, because an evaded attack is one that is not parried or blocked (which would trigger a counter-attack). It's also because heavy armour offers higher damage than light armour (power has better ADB than shade). However, heavy armour is - weirdly enough - not as strong for survival as light armour (although it is more consistent). Because 2H, DW and Niten players don't have access to block, they need the evade from light armour to reduce damage. An extremely highly forged DW player could use heavy armour (because with the ideal set of weapons, they can get extremely high parry) but 2H and Niten are at a disadvantage because their only source of parry comes from the 2H parry ability, which - even with 600 proficiency - is still not very high. 2H heavy is theoretically playable at high levels also with max forging, but I'm not aware of the details. Decondelite or sickentide are the experts there, I think.
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Jun 18 2019, 13:54
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KitsuneAbby
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I'm on my way to have my Peerless Power set fully forged. So far I can tell with certainty that yes, if you don't use a full forged set, 2H simply lacks everything: damage, mitigation, damage avoidance.
I've barely been able to clear IW50 as Power Longsword the other day, with Forge 5 on my perfect IW Peerless weapon, and armor averaging Forge 30.
You'll get news soon when my armor will be full forged. I'll also bring the weapon to forge 50. Fortunately, it's less expensive than a mage set.
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Jun 18 2019, 16:26
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Firew
Group: Gold Star Club
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Hello, I just got this staff and two questions https://hentaiverse.org/equip/196928426/530340c200Would this be a good staff to start out with? Why does it have 127% cold damage? Is the db not accurate?
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Jun 18 2019, 16:54
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Firew @ Jun 18 2019, 15:26)  Hello, I just got this staff and two questions https://hentaiverse.org/equip/196928426/530340c200Would this be a good staff to start out with? Why does it have 127% cold damage? Is the db not accurate? It has 92% EDB according to my Live Percentile Ranges. Are you using Live Percentile Ranges 1.1.0? (Although, to my understanding, there are known issues but Superlatanium has not been around to attend to them for some time.) Also: it's not terrible, even if it's not highly desirable. Check out tox01's posts in the DWD thread to see what kind of mileage you can expect out of budget mage gear (notably here is a test of an Arctic Oak of Focus).
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Jun 18 2019, 17:01
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Firew
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thanks! I'll check out the topic.
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Jun 19 2019, 02:05
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randomuser1234
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 18 2019, 10:54)  It has 92% EDB according to my Live Percentile Ranges. Are you using Live Percentile Ranges 1.1.0?
I'm also using Live Percentile Ranges 1.1.0, but I see 127% like Firew did. The response from reasoningtheory says the range for Cold EDB on an Arctic staff is 16.64 - 18.03, yet that staff has 18.41. Is yours connecting to a different server or something? 
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