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post May 27 2019, 07:31
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 13:28) *

As it's when I will stop switching equipment for those of higher levels

You will stop switching waaay before that.
In general melee is cheap to forge, so you can forge any equip you are wearing to lvl 5 on all stats.
And speaking of when you will stop switching equipment, once you get Legendary armor/weapons with ADB 50% or above, there won't be much incentive to switch over.

Either way, at the moment I wouldn't upgrade anything past lvl 5 if I were you.
Once you get to lvl ~350-400 that's when you'll start getting equips that last a long time.

I wouldn't soulfuse stuff either if I were you. At least not until you get Legendary with good ADB.


Then again, I would suggest you get ready to swap over to mage at lvl 350. Because even the cheapest mage set up is way faster than melee.


P.s. forging level doesn't matter.
If you REALLY want to get high forging, you can just send your gear with the materials over to someone who has max forge level and they'll upgrade it for you.

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post May 27 2019, 08:42
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Whats the most versatile melee setup I can build? I want something that's useful in different fighting styles such as 1HD, DW and Ninten.

I've been considering a Shadowdancer set, Agile or Savage?
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post May 27 2019, 08:59
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There is no "most versatile" melee set, only melee sets with different kinds of focus.
If you want something that does a compromize between defense, clear speed and pretty muych everything, I'd say that Power/Plate 2H is quite spot-on, yet it's very unpopular because it doesn't excel anywhere: you can go faster by playing mage, and it doesn't provide the defense of 1H or even high-speed DW / FRD DW / FRD Niten.

When it comes to a Shadowdancer set, be it Savage or Agile, be prepared for the extreme rarity of those parts. Agile is more popular, mostly because the point of shade armor is to avoid attacks... and to be so God damn fast for the sake of coolness.

I'd advice you to rather choose what you want to focus on, and what you enjoy. You must like the way you're playing, otherwise it's quite pointless.
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post May 27 2019, 13:45
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ May 27 2019, 07:31) *

You will stop switching waaay before that.
In general melee is cheap to forge, so you can forge any equip you are wearing to lvl 5 on all stats.
And speaking of when you will stop switching equipment, once you get Legendary armor/weapons with ADB 50% or above, there won't be much incentive to switch over.

Either way, at the moment I wouldn't upgrade anything past lvl 5 if I were you.
Once you get to lvl ~350-400 that's when you'll start getting equips that last a long time.

I wouldn't soulfuse stuff either if I were you. At least not until you get Legendary with good ADB.
Then again, I would suggest you get ready to swap over to mage at lvl 350. Because even the cheapest mage set up is way faster than melee.
P.s. forging level doesn't matter.
If you REALLY want to get high forging, you can just send your gear with the materials over to someone who has max forge level and they'll upgrade it for you.


How do I figure a good ADB (Attack Damage Bonus)? I've checked this page on the Wiki, but I can't figure out how it works.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

This question would apply to any piece of gear.

As for my choice of melee, is mostly because I'm lazy and don't want to think. Still, I'm saving all phase and shade stuff for now to be open to any set up, plus a decent staff, if I find it.

Thanks again for the help.
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post May 27 2019, 18:00
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Hello guys,
May I ask if 2H or Niten Ichiryuu is better?
What are their advantages?

Some how I remember Niten Ichiryuu was op but now I usually see people go 1H or 2H
Stopped playing it long time ago and picked up again last month!
Open to any advice and opinion!

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post May 27 2019, 18:11
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28) *

So I guess wait for level 500 then?
No, i didnt say that, not even something close to that. Like Kamui said long before level 500.
QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28) *

As it's when I will stop switching equipment for those of higher levels, unless I get Peerless (and that won't happen, I guess).
You dont need peerl. There is a lot of good equipment out there that isnt peerl.
QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28) *

And btw, that waki is there because it did better than the Ethereal Rapier I had before. The damage was similar, but the waki has better parry and allows me to counter, so I deal a lot of damage from that.
Well, parry is fine and yeah, i can see why you did switch to the waki when the damage was equal but parry was higher. But ethereal is nothing but overrated. And i still dont understand why it is.
QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28) *

Obviously I want a better Ethereal Rapier, Magnificent if possible, as the other higher level Exquisite Rapier I have I can't equip yet, is "of the Nimble", so damage is slightly lower and with worse specs; and I can't equip it yet (lvl 229).
No, you wont. You want a rapier with an element. Something like holy, dark, ice, maybe elec or wind.
QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 13:45) *

How do I figure a good ADB (Attack Damage Bonus)? I've checked this page on the Wiki, but I can't figure out how it works.
Well, you can use the equiment range, but i would suggest just use the Live Percentile Ranges scripts.
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Hello guys,
Hello. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(OBV @ May 27 2019, 18:00) *

May I ask if 2H or Niten Ichiryuu is better?
What are their advantages?
Well, overall it would be Niten, damage and parry is overall higher, but it would take some time to the needed good waki and Katana. And of course the prof gain will be a problem. Iirc it is halved between DW and 2H so i wouldnt use it without at least a few level of assimilator training.
QUOTE(OBV @ May 27 2019, 18:00) *

Some how I remember Niten Ichiryuu was op but now I usually see people go 1H or 2H
Stopped playing it long time ago and picked up again last month!
Open to any advice and opinion!
Yeah, not many do actually play it, so i guess there is a reason for that. I would suggest play something differen first until you are ready with at least decent weapon and some training and try it after that.
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post May 28 2019, 03:56
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Noob question: I currently use 2h with light armor, and mostly play the shorter arenas on Nintendo or lower difficulty. (I'm less interested in clearing everything on high difficulties, than I am on low-effort grinding and gathering loot to sell or use to enhance my monster stable) How much longer will 2h-light be viable play style for me as I level up? What changes will I eventually need to make in order to still be able to play at Nintendo or Hell difficulty?

To clarify, my weapon is a hollow-forged magnificent demonic mace of balance, and my armor is a mixture of whatever exquisite-legendary gear I can get my hands on. I have grown very attached to 2h maces, because stunned enemies don't fight back.

ALSO: is anyone else still having trouble viewing [hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com? I heard the issue was supposed to have been fixed, but it still appears blank to me.

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post May 28 2019, 05:07
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QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 03:56) *

Noob question: I currently use 2h with light armor, and mostly play the shorter arenas on Nintendo or lower difficulty. (I'm less interested in clearing everything on high difficulties, than I am on low-effort grinding and gathering loot to sell or use to enhance my monster stable) How much longer will 2h-light be viable play style for me as I level up?
Well, with a bit of work, better equipment, forging, you could play up to level 500 with it. But you should really switch to rainbow niten mage after level 501. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 03:56) *

What changes will I eventually need to make in order to still be able to play at Nintendo or Hell difficulty?
Better equipment, some forging and a few level ups also cant hurt.
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post May 28 2019, 05:51
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QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 02:56) *

Noob question: I currently use 2h with light armor, and mostly play the shorter arenas on Nintendo or lower difficulty. (I'm less interested in clearing everything on high difficulties, than I am on low-effort grinding and gathering loot to sell or use to enhance my monster stable) How much longer will 2h-light be viable play style for me as I level up? What changes will I eventually need to make in order to still be able to play at Nintendo or Hell difficulty?

To clarify, my weapon is a hollow-forged magnificent demonic mace of balance, and my armor is a mixture of whatever exquisite-legendary gear I can get my hands on. I have grown very attached to 2h maces, because stunned enemies don't fight back.

ALSO: is anyone else still having trouble viewing [hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com? I heard the issue was supposed to have been fixed, but it still appears blank to me.


How far do you want to go and how much do you want to invest in it? Like uncle says, light-armor playstyles are playable (especially if you're not playing on pfudor), although they do slow down a lot later. The lowest effort playstyle is 1H+shield, the next most survivable playstyle is dual-wield (with a slaughter rapier mainhand and nimble wakizashi offhand, for super high parry), but none of the melee styles are particularly speedy at higher levels - it starts to slow down noticeably around the late 300s. Mage is much much faster but getting that speed can be expensive (though tox01's results in the DWD thread show that expense isn't necessary to get started).

Also, the site works fine for me

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post May 28 2019, 07:53
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Is counter-parry a useful stat on Katana? I do item world and it keeps getting me counter-parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post May 28 2019, 08:30
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QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 01:56) *

ALSO: is anyone else still having trouble viewing [hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com? I heard the issue was supposed to have been fixed, but it still appears blank to me.

Weird. The behavior of the filter-less page seems to have changed without me doing anything.
But frankly you don't want to have the entire monster database to be loaded anyway, when there is no filter.
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post May 28 2019, 09:28
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 20:45) *

How do I figure a good ADB (Attack Damage Bonus)?


Use this script:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=212481
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post May 28 2019, 15:01
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Yeah, I did so as per Uncle Stu's suggestion. Thanks for the advice, though.


Ok, now another question. I've got these weapons I can choose to equip:

Magnificent Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193922522/a6e562ef83

Low damage, 30% parry, Void damage.

Magnificent Ethereal Shortsword of the Slaughter: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/194693388/e5b7cc5a22

Moderate damage, 17% parry, Void damage.

Magnificent Shocking Axe of the Slaughter: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/194729121/3c833af843

Highest damage, no parry, Electrical damage and forget about accuracy, this is an axe.


1H build, your tipical force/power armour build; no original thoughts were put into this build.

Which weapon would you recommend?

No, I have no rapiers. Well, I have them, but low damage.
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post May 28 2019, 18:02
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QUOTE(OBV @ May 28 2019, 07:53) *

Is counter-parry a useful stat on Katana? I do item world and it keeps getting me counter-parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Overpower is useful, yes


QUOTE(ahroun @ May 28 2019, 15:01) *

Yeah, I did so as per Uncle Stu's suggestion. Thanks for the advice, though.
Ok, now another question. I've got these weapons I can choose to equip:

Magnificent Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193922522/a6e562ef83

Low damage, 30% parry, Void damage.

Magnificent Ethereal Shortsword of the Slaughter: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/194693388/e5b7cc5a22

Moderate damage, 17% parry, Void damage.

Magnificent Shocking Axe of the Slaughter: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/194729121/3c833af843

Highest damage, no parry, Electrical damage and forget about accuracy, this is an axe.
1H build, your tipical force/power armour build; no original thoughts were put into this build.

Which weapon would you recommend?

No, I have no rapiers. Well, I have them, but low damage.



I would go for the shortsword
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post May 28 2019, 21:46
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this bothers me for a while...
are scrolls have different action speed formula than potions?
because I sometimes see expiring cooldown when using scrolls.

this one health potion cooldown finished after using scroll of shadow
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and this one mana potion cooldown finished after using scroll of swiftness.
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post May 29 2019, 01:43
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I think the item cooldowns are just based on number of turns, even if you do an action that takes 0 time.
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post May 29 2019, 07:45
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I think the item cooldowns are just based on number of turns, even if you do an action that takes 0 time.


you meant player action instead of actual battle turn (which tied to buff counter)?
that makes sense...

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post May 30 2019, 02:58
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 28 2019, 02:30) *

Weird. The behavior of the filter-less page seems to have changed without me doing anything.
But frankly you don't want to have the entire monster database to be loaded anyway, when there is no filter.

The default filter hides monsters that haven't been scanned in 30 days, and it looks like nothing has been scanned since April 17th. Is the scanning API also broken?
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post May 30 2019, 04:24
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How do Shadow Veil and Haste interact with Heavy armour build?

Do they have any effect or better not to cast them?
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post May 30 2019, 04:47
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 30 2019, 04:24) *

How do Shadow Veil and Haste interact with Heavy armour build?
They gave mostly a flat bonus, so what you get from them is overall the same as with other armor sets.
QUOTE(ahroun @ May 30 2019, 04:24) *

Do they have any effect or better not to cast them?
That depends more on your playstyle as on the armor you use. Lets say you play 2H Heavy, in that case you should really use it. If you play 1H Heavy, you should really stop using it as soon as you can survive without it.
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