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May 1 2019, 18:12
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yrch
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Hello guys,
i have 500 hath finally and was wondering what to spend it is best on?
IA IV Mentats Effluent ether, or Resplendent regen
I am a very casual player with only aim to clear 5-6 random encounters with DW light style daily.
Much thanks for your input!
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May 1 2019, 18:23
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(yrch @ May 1 2019, 18:12)  i have 500 hath finally and was wondering what to spend it is best on? ... I am a very casual player with only aim to clear 5-6 random encounters with DW light style daily.
Tbh, none of those perks will make any difference and the only perk of those you would have any benefit of, would be mentats. IA IV would only help you to save some mana in a longer run, what does mean nothing for RE. EE or RR would only help you to save some draughts or potion in a long run, what does also mean nothing for RE. So except you want to actually waste your hath for something you dont benefit at all from. Get mentat and just forget those other perks do even exist.
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May 1 2019, 18:25
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yrch
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 1 2019, 23:23)  Tbh, none of those perks will make any difference and the only perk of those you would have any benefit of, would be mentats. IA IV would only help you to save some mana in a longer run, what does mean nothing for RE. EE or RR would only help you to save some draughts or potion in a long run, what does also mean nothing for RE. So except you want to actually waste your hath for something you dont benefit at all from. Get mentat and just forget those other perks do even exist.
True, rest all matter in the long run only. thanks for the heads up, I will get the exp bonus.
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May 1 2019, 18:54
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Hakrei
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Does exp bonus perks like Thinking Cap, etc and training like adept learner benefit in some other way or is it just for leveling up faster?
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May 1 2019, 19:08
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sickentide
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i disagree with IA being useless for REs: it's where IA has the biggest impact. having your buffs up instantly when entering a RE and being ready to attack with maximum effectiveness after minimal setup is a great convenience, and was my main reason to prioritise IA when unlocking perks
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May 1 2019, 19:15
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Hakrei @ May 1 2019, 18:54)  Does exp bonus perks like Thinking Cap, etc and training like adept learner benefit in some other way or is it just for leveling up faster?
It also helps to gain prof. QUOTE(sickentide @ May 1 2019, 19:08)  i disagree with IA being useless for REs: it's where IA has the biggest impact. having your buffs up instantly when entering a RE and being ready to attack with maximum effectiveness after minimal setup is a great convenience, and was my main reason to prioritise IA when unlocking perks
But we talk about IA IV and not about IA in general and IA III which i assume he allready owns, is more than enough for that.
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May 1 2019, 19:20
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sickentide
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it's a matter of preference, but having haste, protection, shadow veil and either spirit shield or spark up instantly is something i would value over the other perks in question when doing REs with DW, especially at mid level and possibly with non-exceptional gear
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May 1 2019, 22:30
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Noni
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QUOTE(william1024 @ May 1 2019, 17:18)  Okay... the gist I can get from that is that you find that proficiency is preferable to direct damage bonuses. That seems to be the opposite of what is suggested on the wiki's advice page, which is to focus on elemental equipment with just one or two proficiency. Or is that sufficient to hit a limit? I don't know what "Proficiency Factor" is or how to calculate it from my stats and equipment. Right now I am at level 289 and have "Effective Proficiency" 494 for Elemental. Is that 494/289 >1 and therefore capped at 1? Can I lose some elemental proficiency to gain damage bonus if there is an opportunity to swap at a good equipment level? I have "Spell Damage Bonus" of 97.4% for Wind right now. Or is the proficiency factor (494-289)/289 = 0.709 for monsters encountered at my level, and I have room to improve that until it's twice my level?
Thank you for the response and I'm sorry if I'm being dense.
the advice advance page of the wiki states: Proficiency factor for elemental mage should be 0.68. A bit higher is even better, but not more than 0.78 (even though decondelite perhaps disagrees - it's still true). That's because you play imperil style. One good prof cotton and a good staff is enough to reach 0.68 prof factor. Prof factor = (your total proficiency / your level) - 1 (494-289)/289 = 0.709 is correct. You have enough proficiency, you can now focus on damage, more damage, and even more damage.
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May 1 2019, 23:45
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KitsuneAbby
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As always, it's a matter of objectives. 1.0 is better to wipe the entire party faster, provided that there do are monsters that resisted Imperil. 0.7 is better to kill as many imperiled monsters as possible in the fewest blasts. If you did optimize the proficiency so that you can have as much EDB as possible.
The former is preferable for daily arenas. The latter is preferable for difficult challenges (IW, PFFEST).
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May 1 2019, 23:52
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william1024
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Allright, thank you both very much!
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May 2 2019, 03:17
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(mewsf @ May 1 2019, 18:51)  I don't know why my first two legendary drops are both leather helmet...I don't need them at all! Maybe someone could tell the actual price of the equipment?I know nothing about it.
Bazaar fooder.
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May 2 2019, 15:19
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Finestela
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Quick question: Is the Spike Shield ability worth getting? If so, which element should I get? Or do I just pick one at random? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Finally, is there any way to find out what "type" of a monster it is? Thanks!
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May 2 2019, 17:21
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t_t_z
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 2 2019, 09:19)  Quick question: Is the Spike Shield ability worth getting? If so, which element should I get? Or do I just pick one at random? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Finally, is there any way to find out what "type" of a monster it is? Thanks! Note that elemental strikes explode the debuffs that trigger from the spike shields, so you get some extra damage for using one opposing your weapon element (or infusion). Haven't tested how much it is. For 1H Heavy at least, I recommend fire spike shield as the rest that have a beneficial effect reduces your expected number of counters as well (well expect Elec, but reducing evade likely isn't as helpful as reducing damage dealt; does anyone note if spell debuff is additive or multiplicative for evade debuff? Either way it would have no effect at all once you hit 200% hit chance as 1H). Cold also appears to be the lowest average mitigation out of monsters with PLvl>1100; however this may not be as useful to use in decision making as the higher HP/tankiness types (giants i.e.) are resistance to it. Though, note that a 1H research done by sssss2 quite a while ago seemed to go with cold infusion on his holy/dark weapon. tl;dr: I recommend fire shield for cold/holy/dark strike; unsure about fire or opposing element for other strikes. For the type of monster, you can scan; monsterbation used to have that, but it broke and people are fixing it atm. I haven't tried other scripts (i.e. HVStats) so not sure if they still work or not. This post has been edited by t_t_z: May 2 2019, 17:24
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May 2 2019, 17:28
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Noni
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ May 2 2019, 17:21)  Note that elemental strikes explode the debuffs that trigger from the spike shields, so you get some extra damage for using one opposing your weapon element (or infusion). Haven't tested how much it is. For 1H Heavy at least, I recommend fire spike shield as the rest that have a beneficial effect reduces your expected number of counters as well (well expect Elec, but reducing evade likely isn't as helpful as reducing damage dealt; does anyone note if spell debuff is additive or multiplicative for evade debuff? Either way it would have no effect at all once you hit 200% hit chance as 1H). Cold also appears to be the lowest average mitigation out of monsters with PLvl>1100; however this may not be as useful to use in decision making as the higher HP/tankiness types (giants i.e.) are resistance to it. Though, note that a 1H research done by sssss2 quite a while ago seemed to go with cold infusion on his holy/dark weapon. tl;dr: I recommend fire shield for cold/holy/dark strike; unsure about fire or opposing element for other strikes. For the type of monster, you can scan; monsterbation used to have that, but it broke and people are fixing it atm. I haven't tried other scripts (i.e. HVStats) so not sure if they still work or not. For mages it does not matter at all. No noticeable effect. The damage of exploding spell is not high enough. Dark/Holy don't get the explosion anyway. And then when the going gets tough: scroll of protection, no more spikes. Just go with whatever you like.
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May 2 2019, 17:51
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Insania
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May 2 2019, 17:52
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Finestela
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Thank you for the replies! I'm having a bit of spare AP right now, and I want to see if there's something I can get right now that'd be of use at my level. And, yes, thank you so much for reminding me of scanning... lol... I've totally forgotten about it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 2 2019, 18:06
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Insania @ May 2 2019, 15:51)  Yes, why not?
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