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Players of a similar level tend to share similar concerns so I understand why its-just-me was concerned about starting a new style and having difficulty catching up proficiency to your level. I did just this with 1H and Heavy Armor recently, trying to keep my level fixed while grinding proficiency.

What I found in the end was, this isn't any concern at low-to-medium proficiency, as the new proficiency gains are so great that it dwarfs even the proficiency/level ratio you would have reasonably achieved under the old system. Plus you finish in a few battles at high difficulty, versus a month of tedious grinding at low difficulty the old way.

At high proficiency near your level, there is a period where I might have preferred the old way. However it will only be a few days from this point until your proficiency actually surpasses your level, at which point you can have no complaint in terms of the power your character achieved. (On the other hand, granting more power is not necessarily a good thing for the game overall).

If anything prof is becoming a negligible game mechanic due to how easy it is to get; it's practically tied to your level if you put in a reasonable amount of effort.

Part of what used to make proficiency interesting was that it was gained linearly while experience was gained on a curve. It made for alternative ways to play, but it seems Tenboro didn't like players grinding on low difficulty. Maybe adding a difficulty modifier to the old proficiency system could have worked.

For some reason, all my monsters have an extra attack with a default name.
When did it happen?

For some reason, all my monsters have an extra attack with a default name.
When did it happen?

either this or last patch, iirc

For some reason, all my monsters have an extra attack with a default name.
When did it happen?

Range for skills probably changed, along with the tweaks to the gifts' quality levels.
Your monsters probably are in that range.

Btw, how long for the proficiency update? Not my intention to rush anyone but, back in the day 10b said that weekend wasn't okay for downtime, yet 3 or 4 weeks passed.
I just wanted to know if there were some issues or if the date was postponed and, in case, know such date.


Also, any news about the hath perks that should change their price in a while?

Btw, how long for the proficiency update? Not my intention to rush anyone but, back in the day 10b said that weekend wasn't okay for downtime, yet 3 or 4 weeks passed.

The change is on the main database, not the HV database, and at the very least it has to be done during low-ish traffic hours. We don't have those in the weeks around Comiket.

The change is on the main database, not the HV database

how comes? because dawns are treated like a global thing, even if here would affect only HV section?

Note that the cost of some older hath perks will soon be increased to match the increased availability. Buy them now if you want them at the old price.

Do we know which perks are included in this?

Do we know which perks are included in this?

I haven't decided exactly which perks and by how much, it's mostly a warning that I'm considering tweaking some of the costs. Ultimately it could end up being just a few of them, and it's more likely to affect the gallery perks than the HV perks.

If you don't have the relatively inexpensive gallery perks like Ads-Be-Gone or More Pages, then now might be a good time to invest in them if you like browsing the galleries.

how comes? because dawns are treated like a global thing, even if here would affect only HV section?

Dawns do happen on Galleries. Shared things like EXP, level, credits, hath and GP are global, not HV-only. And since Galleries servers don't talk to the HV database directly, adding a separate field to tally dawn EXP avoids an uglier and more expensive hack that would also be prone to drop EXP.

Okay, understood, thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If anything prof is becoming a negligible game mechanic due to how easy it is to get; it's practically tied to your level if you put in a reasonable amount of effort.

How the ever-loving fuck is anyone complaining about prof gains being too low?

I don't grind much, so about half of my exp comes from the Dawn events. (Maybe more, didn't really count)

My current level is 469, and my exp is sitting on exactly half way to 470. I only play with heavy armor, and my current heavy armor proficiency is 468.1, with Assimilator level 3.

Is it slow? Yes, it's very slow. But those bonus don't really affect much at this level, so I won't put more effort on this just to catch up.

Is it slow? Yes, it's very slow. But those bonus don't really affect much at this level, so I won't put more effort on this just to catch up.

ooooh! at least someone said it!

I think I get why some people are saying their prof gains are lousy; their EXP modifiers are too low.

I forgot about my awards and toplist placements boosting my gains.

This post has been edited by Maximum_Joe: Sep 6 2017, 16:20

I think I get why some people are saying their prof gains are lousy; their EXP modifiers are too low.

I forgot about my awards and toplist placements boosting my gains.

Some of us have too much privilege many bonuses. They certainly have added up over the years.

bonuses

Bonerses. rawr~

This post has been edited by Sesshomaru Moon: Sep 6 2017, 23:01

I think I get why some people are saying their prof gains are lousy; their EXP modifiers are too low.

I forgot about my awards and toplist placements boosting my gains.

My gains are barely enough as for now, and it will be worse at each level up. And my exp modifiers are quite high (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

But the future dawn system will fix this for sure, so I'm not worrying anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

My gains are barely enough as for now, and it will be worse at each level up. And my exp modifiers are quite high (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

But the future dawn system will fix this for sure, so I'm not worrying anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Don't do cardio (grind) cardio ruins gains

nice a update (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks for the update.

Just ago I started the last training of Assimilator, so I post it now.


Final costs of other trainings are 10^n (1,000,...) or 10^n-1 (9,999,...), but Assimilator is not.

CODE

Cost = round[(base_cost + level_cost * N) ^ (1 + exponent * N)]

Where:

base_cost = The initial base cost of the training item
level_cost = The cost to go up from level N to level N+1
N = The current level trained
exponent = The exponential value used to create a dynamic cost curve

base_cost = 50000
level_cost = 50000


So, the exponent to make the cost of Assimilator_25 9,999,999 should be

Math.pow(50000+50000*24,1+e*24)=9999999
e=(Math.log(9999999)/Math.log(50000+50000*24)-1)/24
=0.006171773499716158


But Tenboro put 25 instead of 24.

Math.pow(50000+50000*25,1+e*25)=9999999
e=(Math.log(9999999)/Math.log(50000+50000*25)-1)/25
=0.005796956584031144

CODE

e    |  0.0057969565  |  0.0061717734  
=======================================
001  |        50,000  |        50,000  
002  |       106,902  |       107,364  
003  |       172,227  |       173,773  
004  |       247,297  |       250,715  
005  |       333,508  |       339,781  
006  |       432,389  |       442,730  
007  |       545,633  |       561,524  
008  |       675,125  |       698,365  
009  |       822,970  |       855,727  
010  |       991,517  |     1,036,394  
011  |     1,183,393  |     1,243,497  
012  |     1,401,535  |     1,480,564  
013  |     1,649,225  |     1,751,561  
014  |     1,930,133  |     2,060,953  
015  |     2,248,360  |     2,413,765  
016  |     2,608,491  |     2,815,646  
017  |     3,015,645  |     3,272,950  
018  |     3,475,544  |     3,792,822  
019  |     3,994,574  |     4,383,292  
020  |     4,579,869  |     5,053,382  
021  |     5,239,390  |     5,813,231  
022  |     5,982,025  |     6,674,226  
023  |     6,817,687  |     7,649,154  
024  |     7,757,441  |     8,752,373  
025  |     8,813,625  |     9,999,999  
026* |    (9,999,999) |  
=======================================
sum  |    65,074,505  |    71,673,788  

Yeah, I saved 6.6m!