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Some may ask well how much play is enough?

Depends on level, at your level, with the original update I would be able to gain 2 levels per day and keep profs 20 levels higher.
At my current level, with the original update I would be barely able to keep my prof on par.

Why? Because needing 4,083,965,921 EXP or 233,656,955,014 EXP to level up is a bit different and when dawn of day gives you 11,682,847,750 EXP is really easy to fall behind unless you play a lot.

Ideally dawn of day bonus as proposed by Tenboro + 2X prof multiplier sounds like the perfect balance.

At my current level, with the original update I would be barely able to keep my prof on par.

That seems a little harsh, but then again a lot of things in HV get harder as you progress. Still I double checked some things on the wiki and might have found an issue. Could someone take a look at the 3rd item in Gains section of the Proficiencies wiki? I'm pretty sure that the amount of gain is no longer chosen at random, but now based on the amount of experience you gain during battles.

That seems a little harsh, but then again a lot of things in HV get harder as you progress. Still I double checked some things on the wiki and might have found an issue. Could someone take a look at the 3rd item in Gains section of the Proficiencies wiki? I'm pretty sure that the amount of gain is no longer chosen at random, but now based on the amount of experience you gain during battles.

yes, it's an obsolete thing. you know, wiki is quite big and there's no way everything can be updated at once.
though i noted that joe already modified that section a little, probably he's just thinking about how to put it in proper words

Some may ask well how much play is enough? I just happened to level up a few hours after this version was released and my proficiency for my primary fighting style was previously maxed. I have 0 Assimilator training, and yet just by doing around 110 REs plus about 90 minutes of Arenas a week, I only need .071 proficiency to reach my current level. I have approximately 6.05 bars at the bottom of the battle screen, so I could probably cut my Arena time to a third and still maintain my proficiency. Naturally, your mileage my vary, but honestly I don't think we need to gain proficiency at the dawn. However, I'll gladly take the free proficiency.

That may be your experience, but certainly hasn't been mine.

Obviously doing nothing but sitting in front of your computer and playing HV all day every day, doing every arena, etc is how it is now.

I leveled up right BEFORE the 0.86 mess. Doing my normal batch of arenas everyday (I don't do them ALL, no) and getting almost every hourly every day, my main prof was at around the the halfway point from my level when I started, and I JUST went over a day or so ago.

More accurately, I've been spamming spells left and right and my dep is still under .8, and my forb. is still under .6 from level, and those two were a full point below my level since I hadn't grinded those yet when the "update" hit. It's so tedious and time consuming and boring.

Getting level up automatic prof is essentially necessary if gains are going to remain at their current level, i.e. .01, .02 or .03 per ACTION nerfed into .004 or below per hourlies, or occasional .001's during RE's when your prof is below your own level.

As I've stated more than once, any players looking to go ABOVE their level with prof, the current system is fair. anybody below level, the nerfed gain is (intentionally) broken.

Matching profs with level is a thing?

I just got dinged a point of stamina for choosing Rarity on a Horse puzzle that had three versions of her, one that was highly opaque.

And then I got another 3xRarity AGAIN and it's saying I was wrong. It was DEFINITELY Rarity.

If I had the credits/hath I would get them.
5% damage is always pretty good, FoS is useless unless you also buy trophies.
And anyway, the reason why DD was expanded is that 112 players already had DD V (worth every hath, fantastic upgrade).

So very true.

5% to me is much more MDB than I would get with any peerless radiant piece out there.

Whether it's expensive is relative to the player.

Ahhhh... who am I kidding? It's expensive to everyone of us.

Its gonna take me weeks... Maybe even months. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Edit: Just kidding of course. 140,000 HatH is over the top for anyone.

This post has been edited by RoadShoe: Aug 28 2017, 11:41

I just got dinged a point of stamina for choosing Rarity on a Horse puzzle that had three versions of her, one that was highly opaque.

And then I got another 3xRarity AGAIN and it's saying I was wrong. It was DEFINITELY Rarity.

If you get a riddle that you think is wrong, hit back and save the image.

So very true.

5% to me is much more MDB than I would get with any peerless radiant piece out there.

Whether it's expensive is relative to the player.

Ahhhh... who am I kidding? It's expensive to everyone of us.

Its gonna take me weeks... Maybe even months. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Edit: Just kidding of course. 140,000 HatH is over the top for anyone.

Oh... that's right...

Rich people are mages...

I actually forgot this...

Oh... that's right...

Rich people are mages...

I actually forgot this...

Sarcasm noted. Thank you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

for some reason I have 10.000 hath now.

Has something changed or have I just forgotten how rich I am?

Peerless Ethereal Willow Staff of the Curse-weaver
Magic Damage base: 31.98
Counter-Resist base: 13.58
Elec base: 8.1
Wind base 8.1
Elemental base: 6.14
Forbidden base: 6.14
Intelligence base: 4.82
Wisdom base: 7.22

Peerless Demonic Willow Staff of Focus
Magic Damage base: 31.99
Counter-Resist base: 13.59
Elec base: 8.11
Wind base 8.11
Elemental base: 6.15
Forbidden base: 6.15
Intelligence base: 4.83
Wisdom base: 7.23

A bug has existed for a long period of time. Same things happened in all staffs and shades, not sure for the others.

This post has been edited by Phreeman: Aug 30 2017, 10:26

seems like rounding errors to me

seems like rounding errors to me

Focus staves has higher pxp0 so higher stats.

This is most evident with Arcanist shades where the higher pxp0 gives ~6% L-Range advantage.

Sarcasm noted. Thank you! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Not really.

I actually was just thinking of my melee pov, and you opened my eyes, as, like you said, spending millions on a piece of radiant cloth might not be very different than buying one of the new 5% perks.

Rich mages have it really good. ; n ;

Focus staves has higher pxp0 so higher stats.

This is most evident with Arcanist shades where the higher pxp0 gives ~6% L-Range advantage.

Yay someone pays attention

I pay attention to Chippeh-doodle.

for some reason I have 10.000 hath now.

Has something changed or have I just forgotten how rich I am?

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Not really.

I actually was just thinking of my melee pov, and you opened my eyes, as, like you said, spending millions on a piece of radiant cloth might not be very different than buying one of the new 5% perks.

Rich mages have it really good. ; n ;

I was thinking with the extended DD perk, I would have it made though.
Go Charged! No more competing with the ultra barons on Radiant.

I found out real quick, there's no decent charged pieces either. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Focus staves has higher pxp0 so higher stats.

This is most evident with Arcanist shades where the higher pxp0 gives ~6% L-Range advantage.

I did know this! I did notice how much higher the pxp0 was on all Arcanist.
Big difference there.

LOL ROTFLMAO

I cast one forbidden spell and jumped 163 points in forbidden proficiency

163 motherfucking points, man, I shit you not

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Did it again with Staff prof, went from 8 to 128.

Oh man that's aces.

This post has been edited by jacquelope: Aug 31 2017, 21:40

You gain 0.017 points of heavy armor proficiency.
You gain 0.021 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
You gain 160.978 points of elemental magic proficiency.
You gain 158.700 points of divine magic proficiency.
You gain 6.149 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
You gain 0.027 points of supportive magic proficiency.
You gain 7433873 EXP!
You obtained five [Soul Fragments]
Predator dropped [3x Crystal of Frost]
Koneko Toujou dropped [Health Potion]
Scorpii dropped [3x Crystal of Tempest]
Bertolt Hoover dropped [Monster Edibles]
In Memorabilia Of Dark Sage Sv dropped [Monster Chow]
Katawaredoki dropped [Health Draught]
You are Victorious!

Yep, high level players are learning geniuses now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)