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Peerless Fiery Axe of the Illithid

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The maximum base attack for an axe is 49.63?

Shrineing trophies from Schoolgirls:

Peerless Fiery Axe of the Illithid

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congrats

whew. so the peerless finally showed up

Ouzai Thief dropped [Exquisite Hallowed Mace of Balance]

I knew the first Peerless would be full of trolling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Shrineing trophies from Schoolgirls:

Peerless Fiery Axe of the Illithid

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Why does peerless not even have 4 PABs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Why does peerless not even have 4 PABs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You need to read the patch notes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You need to read the patch notes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Peerless Gear

Equipment can now drop in a new, extremely rare "Peerless" quality. This is similar to Legendary as far as max stats go, but they are guaranteed to always have all stats maxed, as well as to have a prefix and all possible attribute bonuses. Essentially, if you get a Peerless Fuzzy Staff of the Badger, that will be the best possible Fuzzy Staff of the Badger obtainable.

Unlike "normal" quality ranges, Peerless is not quality range you get by rolling high enough stats; rather, it is a separate roll using a specific "peerless chance". As such, the chance of getting a Peerless drop does not depend on normal quality modifiers outside of difficulty level. On normal, it is literally a one in a million drop, while being somewhat more common at higher difficulties.

Also note that Snowflake treats all trophies the same when it comes to Peerless chance, so a Noodle and a MBP Tail have the same (low) chance of dropping one.

Which part should I read? From my understanding its guaranteed to have all attributes and stats maxed. As well as "Peerless Fuzzy Staff of the Badger, that will be the best possible Fuzzy Staff of the Badger obtainable".

Exactly... "all possible attribute bonuses". Axe has str+dex+agi... So all possible spawnable attributes on an Axe now is..? =)

As for why T decided on that. It was expected considering he has been taking off an attribute from each type of equip wherever he can.

edit: Basically 3pab seems to be his magic # of pabs. Maybe so that light armor has something that makes it special (4pabs)

This post has been edited by Slobber: Sep 24 2013, 00:22

Exactly... "all possible attribute bonuses". Axe has str+dex+agi... So all possible spawnable attributes on an Axe now is..? =)

As for why T decided on that. It was expected considering he has been taking off an attribute from each type of equip wherever he can.

You are missing the previous line, "guaranteed to always have". Also, if attributes are taken out, it will no longer be the "best" of that item.

Edit: Well, nowhere in the notes show that axe only has 3 PABs now. If thats the case, you can't really ask me to read patch notes :\.

This post has been edited by hino1314: Sep 24 2013, 00:26

You are missing the previous line, "guaranteed to always have". Also, if attributes are taken out, it will no longer be the "best" of that item.

No I didn't miss anything.

"they are guaranteed to always have all stats maxed" means every stat spawn-able is maxed. Nothing more. Nothing less. Endurance was simply removed from the spawnability of the Axe.

"Best" is pretty subjective to begin with but when T referred to it, he simply meant it'd have everything possible in the current generation of spawns. I doubt he was considering the older equipment. History has hinted that he tends not to. (otherwise you'd have people complaining about Peerless phase that still has less evade than the old phase, y'know)

Unless T was pulling our legs and meant otherwise or messed up on his coding somewhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Edit: I can. I saw Gasior's Axe. I knew T makes plenty of ninja changes without posting (reasons why are unknown but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it's because he forgets to write down all his changes). I read the notes and it said "Peerless will all attainable PABs" essentially. I then put 1 and 1 together and went "Oh! Axes spawn with 3 PAB now!" How was I able to make such a deduction? Because I read the patch notes. It's a pretty reasonable deduction =)

This post has been edited by Slobber: Sep 24 2013, 00:31

Fact: Tenb's information (or lack thereof) are extremely unreliable.

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You are missing the previous line, "guaranteed to always have". Also, if attributes are taken out, it will no longer be the "best" of that item.

An equip's PABs are generated before its quality is. PABs that do not exist to begin with cannot be maxed. Or exist for that matter.

I'd like to clear up my confusion from earlier. I forgot that my MAG axe had a slaughter suffix.

An equip's PABs are generated before its quality is. PABs that do not exist to begin with cannot be maxed. Or exist for that matter.

I'd like to clear up my confusion from earlier. I forgot that my MAG axe had a slaughter suffix.

I guess he should really add "Axe no longer drops with +END" to patch notes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I was also expecting it to have 4 pabs, why the fuck not.
Unless IW'ing it no longer give PAB potencies so you can't get endurance then i'm kinda ok with it.

Peerless piece of shit anyway, where is the golden glow around the frame?

I was also expecting it to have 4 pabs, why the fuck not.
Unless IW'ing it no longer give PAB potencies so you can't get endurance then i'm kinda ok with it.

Peerless piece of shit anyway, where is the golden glow around the frame?

Potency tweaks

- Two new 1H/2H weapon potencies were added: Fatality (+attack crit damage) and Overpower (+counter-parry).

- Three new staff potencies were added: Spellweaver (+cast speed), Annihilator (+spell crit damage) and Penetration (+counter-resist).

- The primary attribute potencies were retired. Note that they will eventually be removed.

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I guess he should really add "Axe no longer drops with +END" to patch notes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I was also expecting it to have 4 pabs, why the fuck not.
Unless IW'ing it no longer give PAB potencies so you can't get endurance then i'm kinda ok with it.

Peerless piece of shit anyway, where is the golden glow around the frame?

That is the way T does things. I already mentioned it in my post above. Maybe give a look at the one handed weapons you find from the start of the new patch and ask yourself, which of them actually have 4pab now?

Another example (if memory serves correct). Agi was taken out from the PAB generation in heavy armor. Where was that mentioned in patch notes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Stuff like this happens all the time. That's why information is power.

edit: fixing some grammar. Gah I have shitty grammar.

This post has been edited by Slobber: Sep 24 2013, 00:40

That is the way T does things. I already mentioned it in my post above. Maybe give a look at the one handed weapons you find from the start of the new patch and ask yourself, which of them actually have 4pab now?

Another example (if memory serves correct). Agi was taken out from the PAB generation in heavy armor. Where was that mentioned in patch notes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Stuff like this happens all the time. That's why information is power.

edit: fixing some grammar. Gah I have shitty grammar.

Well, you are the one who asked me to read the patch notes which I already did before posting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Although heavy armors removal of agi were not written, he did write for cloth.

- Phase Armor no longer drops with +DEX, but now have +attack accuracy [1,5] and +resist [2,5].

Also, even if I did not get 4 PAB's on a 1H Weap, My data alone is not accurate, someone else might have gotten 4PABs and I wouldn't know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

The 3 pab 1H weapons thing was in the back of my mind, but i definitely got suspicious when allot of superiors were dropping with no pabs at all.

Well, you are the one who asked me to read the patch notes which I already did before posting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Although heavy armors removal of agi were not written, he did write for cloth.
Also, even if I did not get 4 PAB's on a 1H Weap, My data alone is not accurate, someone else might have gotten 4PABs and I wouldn't know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

I already expected you to have read the patch notes. That is why I said "You need to read the patch notes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)" and not "Read the patch notes." If it wasn't clear to you (which seems to be the case), what I meant was "you should give the patch notes a closer look because it provides *all the information* that was needed to deduce what was going on:

Exactly... "all possible attribute bonuses". Axe has str+dex+agi... So all possible spawnable attributes on an Axe now is..? =)

And yes, I already wrote the reasoning:
Edit: I can. I saw Gasior's Axe. I knew T makes plenty of ninja changes without posting (reasons why are unknown but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it's because he forgets to write down all his changes). In a previous post.

As for your data alone, yes it is not enough for a conclusion (yet). But it is enough for a suspicion. And it's not exactly rocket science to verify.

tldr Nothing surprising happened.