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Jan 14 2017, 21:27
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noname902210
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jan 14 2017, 16:41) Self-preservation of the site.
What kind of selfpreservation? From what? QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jan 14 2017, 03:12) Does it matter?
Man, that's rude. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 14 2017, 05:31) "But $10 USD per month is expensive!" Bullshit. That's only around ₽600 RUB. You're already paying way more for internet access than this. ₽600 RUB is like what, 2 meals at McDonalds's? It's like ₽19.67 RUB per day or an equivalent of $0.33 USD per day.
Yeah, censorship is tough. But the Chinese on this forum have been dealing with it across multiple points of the internet, not just for e-hentai, for years due to GFW. What does that make you?
Internet is very cheap in Russia. I pay about $6 per month for 100mbps. And it's extremely pointless to pay for VPS just for one site, considering the fact that this site blocks your (mine) IP, not RKN. Does EH blocks chinese users' IPs? I'm not sure, but i guess no. The Great Chinese Firewall blocks them from visiting some sites. 'due to GFW', not due to EH. As RKN does towards the some sites, but not towards this one. That's the point. And we can't get a clear explanation on that block. And we can deal with the RKN blocking some sites, but the dealing with some site blocking your country by IP is 'a bit' harder. QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jan 14 2017, 13:39) I thought ruskies were pro hackers but now i see you can't even proxy...
Think about the difference between a country blocking one site and a site blocking one country before the talk about hackers. QUOTE(Luna_Flina @ Jan 14 2017, 18:51) Tenboro's site is his, not anyone else's, and if he wanted to destroy it this instant just to spite all of us, you couldn't do anything about it because that's his damn right as a site owner and nothing here belongs to any of us - it belongs to the community and stops belonging to the community the instant the community no longer exists. Please read the thread. If you want details, for all that is perverted and unholy, (wo)man the fuck up and investigate instead of trying to force leaks like a fucking peasant because that will not work. This is not how you fight "the enemy". And the enemy for you, today, is the Russian telecom monitoring service.
Lol. But the 'Russian telecom monitoring service' have nothing to do with IP's block from EH, how can you not understand this? So, the enemy for us is the one who didn't any harm to us on this point, but not the one who did? Any logic around here? Of course it's his site and he can do whatever he want to, i agree. We are just asking for an explanation of that block, because it seems pointless from our perspective. Lmao on that 'internet manners' line.
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Jan 14 2017, 22:30
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SumimotoZero01
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Oh, dear...
Well, I guess, It's time to open my dusty TOR+VPN
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Jan 14 2017, 22:37
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SumimotoZero01
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Ok, let's talk. 1) Yarovaya, Mizulina and RKN are crybabies. Actually, I should use another word, but... you know, swearing is bad XD 2) Most Russians know how to bypass all blocks. I'm using TOR for it, some are using Frigate etc. 3) there was absolutely NO reason to block gallery from Russian users. You don't keep your stuff on our servers, and you are, actually, already blocked in Russia (my ISP sucks) I don't see any problem to watch galleries even now, but, c'mon - blocking everybody from Russia is a bit overkill, don't you think?
MAKE RUSSIAN FAP GREAT AGAIN
This post has been edited by SumimotoZero01: Jan 14 2017, 22:49
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Jan 14 2017, 22:38
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 14 2017, 19:27) Man, that's rude. Oh, fuck, man you're rude. That gives me a good reason to be a complete rude cunt 'cause I'm the centre of universe. (FIFY) If you want an answer then make a question. What do you want to know?
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Jan 14 2017, 22:43
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krabokiller
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объяснение бессмысленно потраченного времени на настройку прокси так и не получено(целых 7 минут!)
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Jan 14 2017, 22:45
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SumimotoZero01
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QUOTE(krabokiller @ Jan 14 2017, 23:43) объяснение бессмысленно потраченного времени на настройку прокси так и не получено(целых 7 минут!)
Could you write this stuff in English, I cant understand a thing XD Ох, я идиот. Уже по привычке подумал, что гугл транслейт, хехе Слушай, скачай тор браузер и не парься. Тор качай с официального сайта ТОЛЬКО! Ходят слухи, что наш. Русский сайт, который выдается первым в поиске идет с «жучком» в сборке. Ну ты знаешь, лучше пересрать, чем недосрать This post has been edited by SumimotoZero01: Jan 14 2017, 22:47
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Jan 15 2017, 00:51
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abukara
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[ i.imgur.com] Image of that error if anyone wonders.AFIK that error only effects https://e-hentai.org/, so there shouldn't be any issues to browse galleries even without proxy/donations after login. This post has been edited by abukara: Jan 15 2017, 00:59
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Jan 15 2017, 01:14
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cmos
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QUOTE(abukara @ Jan 15 2017, 01:51) That's an ISP-specific block page and it varies by ISP. EH is different because it blocks the users itself so it just says "This content is not available in Russia."
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Jan 15 2017, 01:22
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abukara
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QUOTE(cmos @ Jan 15 2017, 08:14) That's an ISP-specific block page and it varies by ISP. EH is different because it blocks the users itself so it just says "This content is not available in Russia."
On that case I must have gotten back to home from my trip before this block.
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Jan 15 2017, 02:04
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Super_Mew
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This is the Fakku debacle all over again. Tenboro blocks shit only out of necessity. Quit your whining and start your proxying.
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Jan 15 2017, 02:29
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EsotericSatire
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Wouldn't be necessary if Russian government and crime syndicates stopped hacking everything in sight and site.
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Jan 15 2017, 02:34
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kfahchan
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QUOTE(friman444 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:21) Here is an example - you close the store for the Germans in London in which people were walking for 5~ years without explanation and writing on the label "Say thank you to Berlin , use the back door." We want only rational explanation of the incident and possible unlock, because the lock produced by the site, not our government.
Alright, here's a counter example: You're in a room with a Nazi investigator and a Jew. Neither the Jew nor the Nazi Investigator are aware of each other's identities but you are. How do you tell the Jew to get the fuck out before they're carted off to a concentration camp without tipping off the Nazi? Or, if you're a Nazi sympathizer, how do you tell the Nazi without giving the Jew an opportunity to escape? This is the conundrum this site faces and merely mentioning which side this site fights on can cause problems. I'm not an insider so I have no idea what is really going on but the answer from those who do has been clear. They cannot explain it so stop asking and deal with it. This isn't the only circumstance this has happened. In fact, it happens all of the time and is something of a policy. So, even if the explanation is not compromising in this specific incidence it could compromise future incidents to make a case where the information was made clear. Due to the controversial nature of the content of this site it is vital to make a consistent pattern of not talking about EH restrictions or policies on content accessibility.
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Jan 15 2017, 03:52
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chriseras
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QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:27) Does EH blocks chinese users' IPs? I'm not sure, but i guess no. The Great Chinese Firewall blocks them from visiting some sites. 'due to GFW', not due to EH. As RKN does towards the some sites, but not towards this one. Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know because GFW blocks all traffic to and from g.e-hentai except for the few that manage to leak past during heavy load times (details of which are for another GFW topic itself). See [ i.imgur.com] here, [ i.imgur.com] here, [ i.imgur.com] here, and [ i.imgur.com] here. Even if they do block without GFW, it's just another layer on the firewall. QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:27) And we can deal with the RKN blocking some sites, but the dealing with some site blocking your country by IP is 'a bit' harder. Then deal with it. In the end, it's solved the same way - by having proxy servers outside of the country. The Chinese mainlanders are laughing at your Russian laziness. QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:27) Think about the difference between a country blocking one site and a site blocking one country before the talk about hackers. No difference whatsoever. End result is the same. Everyone in that one country is blocked whether you do it from a national firewall or from a single site. This site is generous than I am from what I've observed over the past 7 years. The admin is the sort that restricts access only when there is a problem present. They're not what's called an evil admin in industry (you don't want to meet those). I personally do full country denials on my sites such as blocking the entirety of China on my torrent client or blocking Romania, Russia, Czech Republic, Ukraine, and China on my sites, regardless of whether or not the government requests it - mainly due to annoying brute forcers that jump IPs within the country and assholes that keep running automated vulnerability exploit engines. QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:27) Of course it's his site and he can do whatever he want to, i agree. We are just asking for an explanation of that block, because it seems pointless from our perspective. Access to site content is a privilege, not a right.If you ask any person for an explanation and you get an unsatisfactory response, what are you going to do? Are you going to force the person to answer? No. If the person you're asking doesn't want to give a clear explanation, then drop it, and move on with life. But instead, you and several others are choosing to continue pestering anyone and everyone for an explanation without considering dropping it. That's what this entire thread is about. Neither you nor I hold any power here. This site may continue for the next several decades or it might go offline forever tomorrow - and there is nothing we can do to stop it. This post has been edited by chriseras: Jan 15 2017, 03:53
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Jan 15 2017, 04:01
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QUOTE <tenboro> you should probably assume that if I ever do something that makes the site less accessible or just outright worse, it's not for shits and giggles This is really all anyone needs to know. You may want more explanation but none of us are entitled to one and posting over and over asking for one is not going to make one materialise.
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Jan 15 2017, 04:37
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BarsikPura
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There is no news about block from roskomnadzor. When they block something it comes to news. Even if it little sites. And when they block sites, forums blocks too. But i can b on forum even without DNS. But i cant visit gallery even with DNS. There is no block from roscomnadzor here. It block from e-hentai side [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/EUChG
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Jan 15 2017, 05:11
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 15 2017, 01:52) If you ask any person for an explanation and you get an unsatisfactory response, what are you going to do? Are you going to force the person to answer? No. If the person you're asking doesn't want to give a clear explanation, then drop it, and move on with life. But instead, you and several others are choosing to continue pestering anyone and everyone for an explanation without considering dropping it. That's what this entire thread is about QUOTE(Mrsuperhappy @ Jan 15 2017, 02:01) QUOTE <tenboro> you should probably assume that if I ever do something that makes the site less accessible or just outright worse, it's not for shits and giggles This is really all anyone needs to know. You may want more explanation but none of us are entitled to one and posting over and over asking for one is not going to make one materialise. OK, I have set up a script that will post these two quotes in this thread every 24 hours. That was and still is the answer but since no one is reading the thread anyway i may as well post it every 24 hours for the gigs. The only reason this thread isn't getting closed is 'cause we like to drink your tears. Go on, whine more, they're delicious. This post has been edited by blue penguin: Jan 15 2017, 06:30
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Jan 15 2017, 06:17
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Sanddan
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And here I was wondering why the thread continues even though the question has already been answered. Now I know. QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 15 2017, 06:11) 'cause we like to drink your tears. Go on, whine more, they're delicious.
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Jan 15 2017, 13:40
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noname902210
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 14 2017, 23:38) Oh, fuck, man you're rude. That gives me a good reason to be a complete rude cunt 'cause I'm the centre of universe.
(FIFY)
If you want an answer then make a question.
What do you want to know?
That gives me a good reason to be a complete rude cunt (i'm still polite, you see), because someone else thinking he is the centre of universe. It's in the first post, lets read that. QUOTE Apparently, Russian IPs have been blocked from accessing galleries. While I'm not particularly opposed to this, I'm rather interested in the reasons behind this. Below there is even more the same questions. And there wasn't a single answer except of 'nevermind-useaproxy'-style 'answers' from the regular users and this one: QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 13 2017, 00:27) You can thank Roskomnadzor for that one. Use a proxy.
But RKN have nothing to do with the block from EH. Galleries (and the whole site) not even in the black-list of our ISPs. So what's the point of self-censoring russian IPs? What's the point of that considering the fact that you can get an access to forum and to galleries without any proxy? It's like a censor a half of a single nipple. That's seems ridiculous and we just want to receive an answer on that point. Also there is a lot of answers about VPN and how pointless is this. I even read again your posts there. QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 13 2017, 04:37) What I cannot stand is people shouting at EH because they're too afraid of shouting at Roscomnadzor. 'Tis like "do the fighting for us 'cause we are too lazy".
'Tis also not like Roscomnadzor couldn't force a stateful firewall rule on all Russian ISPs. They are *exactly* the ones who have those resources. And answering the question that the previous sentence creates: No, there will be no comments on how the infrastructure on the ban is implemented and who is doing what. Adding anything in writing on a public forum would be plain stupid.
It takes an hour to figure it out (two, by reading a tutorial).
Why should we shouting at RKN if they didn't any harm to this site? They didn't block it on their side. And by the second part of this message i guess RKN is not the problem itself? And you basically ignored all the stuff gianfrix94 wrote. QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 15 2017, 03:29) Wouldn't be necessary if Russian government and crime syndicates stopped hacking everything in sight and site.
This is on the whole another level of paranoia. I hope no one there will talk about Syria and Trump. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 15 2017, 04:52) Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know because GFW blocks all traffic to and from g.e-hentai except for the few that manage to leak past during heavy load times (details of which are for another GFW topic itself). See [ i.imgur.com] here, [ i.imgur.com] here, [ i.imgur.com] here, and [ i.imgur.com] here. Even if they do block without GFW, it's just another layer on the firewall. They can't block traffic directly from the site, they can block requests to some sites, so there would not be any traffic from their users. That's another situation. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 15 2017, 04:52) In the end, it's solved the same way - by having proxy servers outside of the country. The Chinese mainlanders are laughing at your Russian laziness. No difference whatsoever. End result is the same. Everyone in that one country is blocked whether you do it from a national firewall or from a single site.
I don't know where are you from, but i'm laughing at your acumen. We can use the proxies, and the main question/problem not in them. The key point is: Why do we have to do efforts? What's the point of that? Also there is a big difference. Not in result, but in way to pass. If the government blocks a site, they you can easily get round this block by setting up some public proxies, change DNS or whatever. If the site (such as EH) blocks your IP, you can't simply change your DNS or use a proxy. The free proxies doesn't works here, because of traffic limit or smth like that, and you need to pay for a good proxies. I don't know what sites are you holding if you don't know such basics. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 15 2017, 04:52) Access to site content is a privilege, not a right.
If you ask any person for an explanation and you get an unsatisfactory response, what are you going to do? Are you going to force the person to answer? No. If the person you're asking doesn't want to give a clear explanation, then drop it, and move on with life. But instead, you and several others are choosing to continue pestering anyone and everyone for an explanation without considering dropping it. That's what this entire thread is about.
Neither you nor I hold any power here. This site may continue for the next several decades or it might go offline forever tomorrow - and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Nobody demands any answers or force someone to give it. If i get an unsatisfactory response i can ask for more details, and the one who i ask can not answer me. But i can ask him, there is nothing wrong with it. Also there wasn't any comment such as 'nocomments-don'twanttoanswermore'. There was a one vague answer. QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 15 2017, 06:11) The only reason this thread isn't getting closed is 'cause we like to drink your tears. Go on, whine more, they're delicious.
Lol, nobody cries here. The only reason i'm posting in this thread is cause i see some users says complete nonsense and the logic of these talks is something to giggle on.
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Jan 15 2017, 14:55
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chriseras
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QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 15 2017, 03:40) If the government blocks a site, they you can easily get round this block by setting up some public proxies, change DNS or whatever. Followed by: QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 15 2017, 03:40) If the site (such as EH) blocks your IP, you can't simply change your DNS or use a proxy. Wow... Do enlighten me on how firewalls work, because obviously I don't know.
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Jan 15 2017, 18:35
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avarinu
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QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 15 2017, 14:40) RKN have nothing to do with the block from EH. They didn't block it on their side.
Well, RKN did blocked some pages. Probably decided that blocking one page at a time wasn't worth it, since no one notices, so they sent a bunch of letters demanding something unreasonable. That's what they do. QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 15 2017, 14:40) what's the point of self-censoring russian IPs?
I feel like it's worth just to deny RKN credit for doing anything. QUOTE(noname902210 @ Jan 15 2017, 14:40) But RKN have nothing to do with the block from EH.
What, you think it has nothing to do with RKN and Tenboro lied just to watch the shitstorm unfold? You might be onto something.
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