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Jan 14 2017, 02:12
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(friman444 @ Jan 13 2017, 19:03)  Why blocked Russian IP address
Does it matter?
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Jan 14 2017, 04:31
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chriseras
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There is an easy solution to this. Get a Virtual Private Server (VPS), secure it, and set it up as a proxy server. Yes you have to pay per month, but they're cheap, cheap enough to be trivial in comparison to everything else. Linode and DigitalOcean offer servers at $10 USD per month with 2TB of transfer and a 24-30GB SSD. Amazon EC2 offers similar services for on-demand (more expensive) or discounted prices. DigitalOcean even offers a pricing plan for $5 USD per month with 1TB transfer and a 20GB SSD. "But $10 USD per month is expensive!" Bullshit. That's only around ₽600 RUB. You're already paying way more for internet access than this. ₽600 RUB is like what, 2 meals at McDonalds's? It's like ₽19.67 RUB per day or an equivalent of $0.33 USD per day. Yeah, censorship is tough. But the Chinese on this forum have been dealing with it across multiple points of the internet, not just for e-hentai, for years due to GFW. What does that make you? DigitalOcean Pricing: [ www.digitalocean.com] https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/Linode Pricing: [ www.linode.com] https://www.linode.com/pricingAmazon Pricing: [ aws.amazon.com] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/Edit: Also forgot to mention that they can be set up outside of Russia. You have a variety of locations and real estate to choose from such as the United States, Tropical Singapore, Japan, Europe, etc. Hell, you can even get one in South America, excluding the fancy cocktails. This post has been edited by chriseras: Jan 14 2017, 04:35
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Jan 14 2017, 08:57
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DeBugger
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QUOTE(dnbdave @ Jan 14 2017, 03:06)  You're failing to grasp that we are not the Roskomnadzor. Talk to them.
What I should tell them? According public database they did not blacklist EH. QUOTE(chriseras @ Jan 14 2017, 05:31)  "But $10 USD per month is expensive!" Bullshit. That's only around ₽600 RUB. You're already paying way more for internet access than this. ₽600 RUB is like what, 2 meals at McDonalds's? It's like ₽19.67 RUB per day or an equivalent of $0.33 USD per day.
It is expensive. I pay ₽350 RUB (less than $6 USD) per month for 100 Mb/s unlimited Internet connection.
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Jan 14 2017, 10:16
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dnbdave
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QUOTE(DeBugger @ Jan 14 2017, 01:57)  What I should tell them? According public database they did not blacklist EH. It is expensive. I pay ₽350 RUB (less than $6 USD) per month for 100 Mb/s unlimited Internet connection.
How much extra for the freedom to access what you please?
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Jan 14 2017, 10:24
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Goreserga
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I've heard that with a bronze star Image Limits are not tied to the IP, and to profile it so?
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Jan 14 2017, 11:13
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worldendDominator2
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jan 14 2017, 05:12)  Does it matter? Yes. If you give people a valid reason, they will stop protesting. And if it's invalid, we could discuss removing the block or at least toning it down.
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Jan 14 2017, 11:46
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sennken
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So if I understand correctly, roskomnadzor demanded that you remove H content from your site, otherwise they'd block your site for all russian IPs, right? And you responded by blocking all the russian IPs by yourself because if you hadn't roskomnadzor would have done... the same? It doesn't make any sense.
If you're upset at russians and their government (as some in this thread obviously are), that would be another matter, because at least that would be explainable.
But i guess the answer "it doesn't matter" will have to do.
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Jan 14 2017, 12:34
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kfahchan
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For those worried about the price: If you use hourly pricing and a spin up script you can use EH (and other parts of the internet) 12 hours a day for only $2.75 USD/month. It takes a couple of minutes to set up and then disable each session. If you don't use EH 12 hours a day, 365 days a year, then it will only get cheaper.
Alternatively, use free VPNs and buy a $20 star (pays for itself in under a year compared to the alternative).
As for why: I assume if you read between the lines you can see that it can't be talked about. Even talking about why it can't be talked about can't be talked about. It's a common theme around here.
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Jan 14 2017, 12:39
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Pillowgirl
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I thought ruskies were pro hackers but now i see you can't even proxy...
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Jan 14 2017, 12:46
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friman444
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QUOTE(kfahchan @ Jan 14 2017, 13:34) 
As for why: I assume if you read between the lines you can see that it can't be talked about. Even talking about why it can't be talked about can't be talked about. It's a common theme around here.
But it doesn't make sense, he is afraid of Russian hackers or something? there was not any explanation or anything, just block Russian IP without explanation and without any logic. We are all adults and just want clarification on the reason for such a massive unit, but if not , then please return to what worked for so long and no one cared ( Roskomnadzor) , and these replies "who cares" "we don't Roskomnadzor" etc just causes confusion among people.
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Jan 14 2017, 13:05
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kfahchan
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Sometimes you cannot identify the enemy because identifying the enemy will compromise you. Sometimes explaining why you can't identify the enemy will necessarily identify the enemy. That's about as much as I can help you.
Whether it's hackers, abusers, government agencies, or other people targetting the community: there must be an adversary. I doubt the site administration would submit over a simple unenforceable legal threat either. They've taken big risks in the past. I hope I'm not saying too much.
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Jan 14 2017, 13:21
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friman444
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QUOTE(kfahchan @ Jan 14 2017, 14:05)  Sometimes you cannot identify the enemy because identifying the enemy will compromise you. Sometimes explaining why you can't identify the enemy will necessarily identify the enemy. That's about as much as I can help you.
Whether it's hackers, abusers, government agencies, or other people targetting the community: there must be an adversary. I doubt the site administration would submit over a simple unenforceable legal threat either. They've taken big risks in the past. I hope I'm not saying too much.
Here is an example - you close the store for the Germans in London in which people were walking for 5~ years without explanation and writing on the label "Say thank you to Berlin , use the back door." We want only rational explanation of the incident and possible unlock, because the lock produced by the site, not our government.
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Jan 14 2017, 14:52
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kserox
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 13 2017, 02:27)  You can thank Roskomnadzor for that one. Use a proxy.
RKN never blocked g.e in its life though. How am I supposed to buy gps for lotteries now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by Mrsuperhappy: Jan 14 2017, 19:42
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Jan 14 2017, 15:41
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(worldendDominator2 @ Jan 14 2017, 04:13)  If you give people a valid reason, they will stop protesting
Self-preservation of the site. But let me guess: the whining will continue despite your statement as the desire to wank has not dissipated.
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Jan 14 2017, 15:44
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friman444
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jan 14 2017, 16:41)  Self-preservation of the site.
But let me guess: the whining will continue despite your statement as the desire to wank has not dissipated.
So, explain you received a letter from Roskomnadzor or you just decided to do ( then I don't see the point of the block, so you never were interested from there).
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Jan 14 2017, 16:29
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cmos
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jan 14 2017, 16:41)  Self-preservation of the site.
But let me guess: the whining will continue despite your statement as the desire to wank has not dissipated.
I wouldn't call wanting to know the reason for your essentially ban whining, it's natural. There wouldn't be such whining if Tenboro just made a clear statement from the beginning instead of leaving it up to mods and IRC brown nosers. "We have received demands/threats from Roscomnadzor and since we don't want to mess with Russian Hackers™ we're closing up the shop preventively." There. Instead people are supposed to guess what it all means and they do it differently depending on the information available to them.
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Jan 14 2017, 16:54
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(cmos @ Jan 14 2017, 09:29)  people are supposed to guess what it all means
You were already told what it all means: QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 12 2017, 16:27)  Use a proxy.
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Jan 14 2017, 17:28
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(cmos @ Jan 14 2017, 22:29)  I wouldn't call wanting to know the reason for your essentially ban whining, it's natural. There wouldn't be such whining if Tenboro just made a clear statement from the beginning instead of leaving it up to mods and IRC brown nosers. "We have received demands/threats from Roscomnadzor and since we don't want to mess with Russian Hackers™ we're closing up the shop preventively." There. Instead people are supposed to guess what it all means and they do it differently depending on the information available to them.
I wouldn't say its hackers they're worried about but the attention. The way I see it, the reason is something that can potentially be self-incriminating. I'm pretty sure the action taken and replies given here isn't because "shit and giggles" either. I think something like [ kproxy.com] https://kproxy.com/ should work and be easy enough to use.
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Jan 14 2017, 17:51
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@43883
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jan 14 2017, 10:39)  I thought ruskies were pro hackers but now i see you can't even proxy... Oh, the EH userbase isn't representative of Mother Russia as a whole, fortunately. I really miss Evil Scorpio. But yeah, you're right. Most of the ones we have here are spoiled crybabies who need to be taught proper Internet manners. And GP whores. Mostly GP whores. QUOTE(pop9 @ e-hentai.org) lazy GP whores Okay now, chriseras, dnbdave and Joe told you exactly what to do. Use a VPN/VPS/proxy like everyone else or take it with the Roskomnadzor. EH is not the Roskomnadzor. Tenboro's site is his, not anyone else's, and if he wanted to destroy it this instant just to spite all of us, you couldn't do anything about it because that's his damn right as a site owner and nothing here belongs to any of us - it belongs to the community and stops belonging to the community the instant the community no longer exists. Please read the thread. If you want details, for all that is perverted and unholy, (wo)man the fuck up and investigate instead of trying to force leaks like a fucking peasant because that will not work. This is not how you fight "the enemy". And the enemy for you, today, is the Russian telecom monitoring service. I couldn't care less about Vlad-kun. He has my sympathy for being cute and knowing the art of silencing and killing people, though. That is all. Move on, comrades.
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Jan 14 2017, 19:43
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Mrsuperhappy
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QUOTE(worldendDominator2 @ Jan 14 2017, 09:13)  Yes. If you give people a valid reason, they will stop protesting. And if it's invalid, we could discuss removing the block or at least toning it down.
There is no such thing as an invalid reason, if Tenboro decides to do something with his own site, then it is automatically valid.
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