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post Aug 28 2019, 13:27
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QUOTE(naturehantai @ Aug 28 2019, 07:25) *

有合适的M杀戮就先凑合用吧. 绑了很亏.

这个L平衡我还在竞拍中,要不取消报价了?主要是要找属性对、adb和招架都高的杀戮很难哎

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post Aug 28 2019, 13:50
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post Aug 28 2019, 14:02
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 28 2019, 19:13) *

问下问下,adb19的M杀戮rapier和adb89的L平衡rapier应该是L的更好吧?这种IW结束是可以魂绑的吧?

Magnificent Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
303, Mag ranges: ADB 16%, Parry 29%, Str 46%, Dex 29%, Agi 40%
adb base = 40.51
ADB@Lv254 = 657.88

Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Balance
347, ADB 85%, Parry 87%, Str 57%, Dex 25%, Agi 13%
adb base = 38.54
ADB@Lv254 = 625.89

魂绑的话,
M杀戮那把ADB会高一些,
而且没那么费魂片

Lv254这个等级感觉是先去找找免费店的福利比较好……

这两把西洋若是魂绑,感觉两边都比较亏……

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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5008931
这里有一把M杀冰西洋可以租借,押金70k
Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter

简单看了一下,应该还不错
你可以看看

如果要使用,
注意仔细看规则


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Legendary Arctic Axe of Slaughter
257, ADB 65%, Str 69%, Dex 60%, Agi 0%

或者你可以再坚持几级,到257后去借这把斧头用用先?

>3. If you want to rent Legendary Equipments, You need to provide a equipment link, which is soulfused with you
不过这一条有点麻烦…
魂片你大概有,但你不一定有L可以绑

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post Aug 28 2019, 14:42
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QUOTE(3534 @ Aug 28 2019, 08:02) *

Magnificent Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
303, Mag ranges: ADB 16%, Parry 29%, Str 46%, Dex 29%, Agi 40%
adb base = 40.51
ADB@Lv254 = 657.88

Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Balance
347, ADB 85%, Parry 87%, Str 57%, Dex 25%, Agi 13%
adb base = 38.54
ADB@Lv254 = 625.89

魂绑的话,
M杀戮那把ADB会高一些,
而且没那么费魂片

Lv254这个等级感觉是先去找找免费店的福利比较好……

这两把西洋若是魂绑,感觉两边都比较亏……

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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5008931
这里有一把M杀冰西洋可以租借,押金70k
Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter

简单看了一下,应该还不错
你可以看看

如果要使用,
注意仔细看规则


啊……
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Legendary Arctic Axe of Slaughter
257, ADB 65%, Str 69%, Dex 60%, Agi 0%

或者你可以再坚持几级,到257后去借这把斧头用用先?

>3. If you want to rent Legendary Equipments, You need to provide a equipment link, which is soulfused with you
不过这一条有点麻烦…
魂片你大概有,但你不一定有L可以绑

目前我在用这个,如果觉得那两把raiper都不值得的话那我就取消报价算了,那把L balance rapier我报了300k

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post Aug 28 2019, 14:53
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 28 2019, 20:42) *

目前我在用这个,如果觉得那两把raiper都不值得的话那我就取消报价算了,那把L balance rapier我报了300k

刚去逛了一下,
这个阶段的西洋比我想象的要缺非常多…… (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

难怪之前那 L风杀西洋 价格飙那么高……

Legendary Tempestuous Wakizashi of Balance
盾战用这个感觉有点惨,

你在拍卖结束前再找找看,
看看能否找到别的好的替代品,
如果没有,
大概也只能魂绑那把 L平衡西洋 了…… (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 28 2019, 15:01
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post Aug 28 2019, 15:31
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QUOTE(Bolide @ Aug 28 2019, 14:38) *

测试结果:
300场:总 21864W 圣 1773W=8.1% 火 1143W=5.2% 1圣=1.551火
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225:总 7161W 圣 525W=7.3% 暗 544W=7.6% 1暗=1.036圣
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200:总 4202W 圣 237W=5.6% 风 220W=5.2% 1圣=1.077风
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180:总 3728.7W 风 199W=5.3% 雷191.5W=5.1% 1风=1.039雷
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165: 总 3940W 雷 183.7W=4.66% 火184.3W=4.68% 1741次普攻差6K伤害 本竞技场 雷≈火.
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130:总 3232W 风 158.9W=4.92% 火 140.9W=4.36% 1风=1.12火
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综合来看 暂时的排位是 暗>圣>风>雷≥火

冰+风就等到周六测吧。 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

辛苦了~
感谢~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

风真强,雷真弱鸡 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

雷比火弱了稍稍有点意外 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

火冰雷对女高等价,
到时候可以再在DwD测测 火+雷
那里(怪物)样本数比较多

之前 冰比雷 高1.83%
冰元素的位置有点虚啊 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

不过冰可以配火刺盾,可以再挺一挺

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我后来想了想,
>>>300场:总 21864W 圣 1773W=8.1% 火 1143W=5.2% 1圣=1.551火
最终总排位区别用“圣 8.1% 火 5.2%”可能比较直观,
因为 冲击伤害增益效果是相对总伤害而言的,而不是相对另一个冲击伤害而言
例如,
在同样的场次,
假如只有 圣冲击 ,它最终的伤害占比大概还是在8.1%附近,
反过来理解就是近似+8.1%的伤害
假如只有 火冲击, 火最终占比可能也是在5.2%附近,
反过来就是近似+5.2%伤害

…………大概? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Aug 28 2019, 15:42
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post Aug 28 2019, 15:58
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 28 2019, 20:42) *

目前我在用这个,如果觉得那两把raiper都不值得的话那我就取消报价算了,那把L balance rapier我报了300k

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=231472
Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Balance
347, ADB 85%, Parry 87%, Str 57%, Dex 25%, Agi 13%
Start: 300k | Quick bid: 500k
adb base = 38.54
ADB @254 = 625.89

Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
354, ADB 21%, Parry 7%, Str 78%, Dex 3%, Agi 28%
Start: 200k | Quick bid: 300k
adb base = 45.6
ADB @254 = 740.54

我在想,
如果你愿意在Lv254魂绑到Lv347,
是否会愿意绑Lv354的 L杀火西洋…………

三千预算进卡吧,加钱加到九万八

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QUOTE(泉水小夜 @ Aug 28 2019, 14:24) *

所以小夜对于催婚的,嘲讽的,一概是淡然处之。
明白自己的需求,了解自己拥有的并珍惜,那么就不容易被动摇,也不容易嫉妒。
另外恋爱这东西,撞上来的比自己找到的要好。

是呐,随缘最好,攀比强求的都不会长久

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想到以前有人瞎玩拳圣风格,一身杀戮甲然後徒手莽

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辛苦了~
感谢~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

风真强,雷真弱鸡 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

雷比火弱了稍稍有点意外 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

火冰雷对女高等价,
到时候可以再在DwD测测 火+雷
那里(怪物)样本数比较多

之前 冰比雷 高1.83%
冰元素的位置有点虚啊 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

不过冰可以配火刺盾,可以再挺一挺

---

我后来想了想,
>>>300场:总 21864W 圣 1773W=8.1% 火 1143W=5.2% 1圣=1.551火
最终总排位区别用“圣 8.1% 火 5.2%”可能比较直观,
因为 冲击伤害增益效果是相对总伤害而言的,而不是相对另一个冲击伤害而言
例如,
在同样的场次,
假如只有 圣冲击 ,它最终的伤害占比大概还是在8.1%附近,
反过来理解就是近似+8.1%的伤害
假如只有 火冲击, 火最终占比可能也是在5.2%附近,
反过来就是近似+5.2%伤害

…………大概? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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怪物总抗性和那里,雷=150是最高的……所以倒不意外雷很低。可能我真的没遇到多少巨人怪吧?

那明天预计300和200场 雷+火 再来两个样本。后续场次看这两次的结果再议。

之所以后面写出来2种元素相除的数据,主要是给玩家一个直观参考(大概一个300C的圣魔药和120C的火能差多少伤害
),有条件的话当然圣+暗最好,但是如果元素武器/虚空武器IW10自带两种属性(无圣/暗)的话,那第三种就只能选暗或者圣了。

还有个小问题是不知道插件的伤害统计是如何取值的。(这个问题不重要 可略过)
如果怪物的剩余血量不足某次攻击的伤害值时,插件统计的是玩家造成的有效伤害?还是杀死玩家那次攻击及以前
的所有伤害?还是玩家这次攻击预计所能造成的所有伤害?

具体例子就是,假如怪物剩余2000血,我的下一次攻击将造成1000点虚空伤害并附带3种元素冲击,虚空冲击700+火冲
400+雷冲击400,我也不知道这几种伤害的触发顺序,假定按我上述写的顺序来的话,怪物在受到火冲击400伤害中的3
00时就已死亡。

那么插件统计的玩家伤害到底是多少呢?

是 1. 怪物实际HP扣除量(玩家有效伤害)=2000
还是2. 杀死怪物的某部分伤害及以前玩家造成的所有伤害=1000+700+400=2100
还是3. 玩家预计这一击造成的所有伤害=1000+700+400+400=2500
还是其他情况呢?

我记得有些网游里,有效伤害/溢出伤害是分开统计的,但是HV不是很懂是哪种。
如果是1. 2情况下的话,可能对我最终的元素冲击伤害统计结果有影响,当然如果那样的话就没法得到元素冲击之间对比的
真实”数据了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

最后我觉得从双元素冲击的比例是没法推测单元素冲击的比例的。
因为你也看到了,我的伤害构成分成几个部分:

1.普通攻击(虚空)+每次附带3种元素冲击(虚空+圣+火)
2.反击伤害(虚空)
3.盾战2技能伤害(虚空)及其偶尔触发的流血伤害
4.马炮伤害(虚空)

而伤害统计里是看不到虚空伤害的每部分具体数值的。

如果将双元素替换为单元素,只减少了1中的其中一小部分伤害(占总伤害的5.2%),但这部分伤害未必会以之前的比例分摊到全部四部分中,也就使得圣伤害是否会延续8.1%仍是未知的。

所以我明天225场测下单圣吧。 不过我觉得能用两种冲击的时候没必要只用一种(哪怕多一种最低的火/雷也行啊) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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