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post Apr 10 2019, 18:34
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post Apr 10 2019, 18:40
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感谢两位大佬解惑。配了电法打了任天堂难度,确实很快,但是再往上就需要强化和IW了 MDB EDB 熟练 反抵抗 施法速度都很重要。。 目前在攒给杖IW的钱。


QUOTE(-vincento- @ Apr 9 2019, 09:49) *

当然是roll越高越好咯。手套熟练最好也更高

选择鞋子优于手套,主要是为了高edb和更高来自相位的属性,我相信你知道。
但高熟练就是高的反抵抗和高的imp减抗性,永远是越高越好。meanwhile,由于一般打iw和gf,prof factor达到0.7就足够了,鞋子也能达到,所以不需要一般为了提升伤害和属性鞋子更优。

但对于手套鞋子的问题,我一直认为手套更值,因为imp style那点edb提升-相对的熟练减少(带来的反抵抗减少),几乎可以忽略不计了。最重要的是,所有人都在抢加速
子,加速鞋子常常会是加速手套3~5倍价格,甚至更高,谁tm作死去搞鞋子。



QUOTE(3534 @ Apr 9 2019, 21:26) *

不管是鞋还是手套,当然都是roll越高越好。
手套提升的熟练确实略高。
不管是鞋,还是手,还是帽
终归是以损失该部位的EDB(以及EVD、AGI、INT等等其他属性,你估计也注意到了,相位属性一般优于棉花),
以换取prof
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Clothes
又无论是EDB还是prof,一般都是 袍1.2>裤1.1>帽1>手0.9>鞋0.8 (Slot_Mod)
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Formulas
假设你穿熟练袍,那就意味着你用比鞋子 更大的EDB损失换取更多的prof
熟练手套同理,你选择了熟练手套,那就意味着你以比选择熟练鞋子更大的edb代价换取prof
所以无论选择高roll还是低roll的熟练手套都是同样的edb损失(该部位穿了棉就不可能再穿个相位了),
假若你拿个低roll的熟练手套,自然就比较亏
然而尽管EDB和prof都是好东西,
但游戏中对EDB的需求永无止境越高越好,对prof的追求却有天花板,
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Effects
2倍熟,顶天了————当然了,此极限无法轻易达到
撇去面条这些罕见的95%抗性的系统自带妖怪,
常规玩家养的怪物最高抗性只到75%

熟练度的抗性扣减,结合imp(-40%四元素抗性),
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Abilities#Deprecating
Mitigation reduction = (prof_factor ^ 1.5) * 50
75-40=35=(prof_factor ^ 1.5) * 50
可解得prof_factor=0.78837351631052428187102047390789
即只要你的有效熟练是你等级的1.788倍,那抗性扣减也基本顶天了

而实际上,怪物不是每只都75%满抗性,很多都不到75%,
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab
把抗性平均下来后,再结合其他反抵抗的因素等等,
一般认为,元素法师(imp style)的prof_factor一般到0.68(或更高的0.7)足矣
——如果要求进一步下降,例如像我这种渣渣,prof_factor只到0.65也照样可以打 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
于是这就造成一个问题,
拥有高破等基础熟练+熟练环+法杖熟练也高的玩家,
若选择穿熟练袍,EDB损失就会过多而prof就会几乎无意义地过高,
于是这类玩家就会选择以 更小的EDB损失换取适量的prof

在这套推演之下,
单论性能,目前主流认为熟练部位最优解是 鞋,其次是 手套,再次之是 帽子
但随之而来的,价格的顺序也就成了 鞋子>手套>帽子

综合下来就是,鞋子很棒,但手套也不赖,
因此最终选什么,
具体还是要自己衡量一下………… (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Apr 10 2019, 19:22
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post Apr 10 2019, 19:34
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post Apr 11 2019, 03:11
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昨天晚上刷皮叔第一场就暴了个泰比克的光荣~这东西在1.09时代都没刷到过 虽然没啥用
之后又暴了个暗金大板子加37MF的 貌似这东西1.09版没有的样子
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QUOTE(Sweetness Overload @ Apr 11 2019, 09:11) *

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